Naked Wizard Tasered at Coachella

First of all I am very kind to my children, but I set boundries for their own good and I enforce them. I dont beat them. I dont mistreat them. I actually divorced my wife because she was abusive to them, and refused to get help.

My theory is that people who think it is ok to break the law and expect the police just to stand by and watch it happen were never disciplined (given boundaries) as a child. So they grow up to think it is their God given right to do whatever they want whenever they want and that anyone who gives them boundaries and enforces it is to be hated. Thus the obvious overlooking that the Wizard was clearly breaking the law, was given the chance to get dressed so we would be compliant with the law, clearly touched the officer, and clearly resisted arrest. Then watching this but still blaming it on the police for not letting it slide.

[edit on 24-4-2009 by justsomeboreddude]

[edit on 24-4-2009 by justsomeboreddude]

Originally posted by eMachine

Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders

The discipline questions are amusing,you wouldn't have wanted to live my childhood,it took me most of my adult life to get over it.

I feel sorry for your chillens......

Forgive them Father,for they know not what they do.......

Indeed.

I'm confused about the comments you're referring to though. Is it discipline during childhood that causes us to be compliant or to rebel? I'm really not sure what was being suggested.

Personally, I spent most of my adolescence (ages ~10-17) in the custody of the state for refusing to go to school. My parents were afraid to "discipline me", because they knew Child and Youth Services could easily get involved since my older sister had called them before when she was upset with my dad (her step-dad).

So, I wonder, was the discipline of being in the custody of the government supposed to have made me more compliant, or did it cause me to rebel? Or was complete government control for a number of years not enough to negate my lack of "discipline" earlier in life?

This is neither here nor there for this topic, but I do recall someone inquiring about whether or not the dissenters here were disciplined as children...

If you were in Foster Care then you were not disciplined at all, unless your Foster Parents broke the rules. So if your parents didnt discipline you and the Foster Care system is not allowed to discipline you then you were never given boundaries.

If you were just in some form of custody for refusing to go to school then you should look back at your parents failure to set boundaries and enforce them as a probable cause of why you rebelled against going to school, and had to pay the price by being put under some form of government control.

[edit on 24-4-2009 by justsomeboreddude]

I think they could have used better judgement, and simply put his arm behind his back to get his attention, or simply written him a summons

but if you are naked, it's just stupid to ignore a direct request from an officer in this day and age, you have to know the taser is coming

I think he was very high, or wanted to provoke the situation

Originally posted by drwizardphd
Its a religious practice. Look it up. You are only showing yourself to be ignorant and insensitive to the Pagan religion.

The police officers used unnecessary force. That is the definition of brutality.

Your "religious" freedoms end when it breaks laws, and interferes with others enjoyment of a public event. I sure don't want to see some ugly naked weirdo at a concert. I would have called the cops on him myself.

The cops were more than reasonable. You want to walk around in your birthday suit ? Do it on your own property, or join a nudist colony. You have zero rights to walk around naked in a public place.

I just wanted to point out something that keeps popping up.
I work for a company that has provided a key function of the Coachella as well as Stagecoach festivals every year since inception.
I've been there behind the scenes on the stages before, after and during performances, as well as assisted in promotions for both Coachella and Stagecoach festivals. I was there last weekend, and will be at Stagecoach tomorrow.

I can assure you all 100% this is not in any way a pagan festival, if you are interpreting the word 'pagan' as a religious or earth religion type of definition .
This festival is about music & art and Stagecoach is about music and food.

If you are interpreting the word pagan as "rustic", "country bumpkin" or to that degree then yes that would be appropriate

The event was held in Indio, CA. Is anybody familiar with the municipal code there? Where does it say one can't walk around in the nude? Who called the cops? Just curious ...

It is also reasonable to point out that the 3 police officers were able to do what they did while hundreds of scared and pathetic onlookers, afraid to act did anything.

Here is a good example police brutality, and what *would* happen if Americans were not a bunch of cowards... even though the asshole who was doing the beating got away.

ignoredprayers.blogspot.com...#-police-security-reason-4769404.html?zx=7c77c8cf3d3bb1b3

Enjoy your police state, USA.

[edit on 25-4-2009 by logician magician]

[edit on 25-4-2009 by logician magician]

Originally posted by justsomeboreddude

If you were in Foster Care then you were not disciplined at all, unless your Foster Parents broke the rules. So if your parents didnt discipline you and the Foster Care system is not allowed to discipline you then you were never given boundaries.

If you were just in some form of custody for refusing to go to school then you should look back at your parents failure to set boundaries and enforce them as a probable cause of why you rebelled against going to school, and had to pay the price by being put under some form of government control.

[edit on 24-4-2009 by justsomeboreddude]

What I gather from this is:

A) Discipline = actions which caregivers are legally restricted from doing
B) Such actions are necessary in creating boundaries for children

I was not in foster care, but a group home (5, rather). Most of my time was spent in a facility housing up to 20 children, with alarms on the doors and windows. Our lives were scheduled to the minute and we were under almost constant surveillance. I would say some boundaries were set.

I did not rebel against going to school for lack of discipline, as a matter of fact it was quite the opposite. I refused to go to school, because I had been taught to be respectful of others while many of the other kids had not learned those particular values.

You might say the man in the video had the same disrespect for the sensitivities of others that I was subject to in school. That is, IF that's what the law against nudity is intended to protect. Yet I was reprimanded for being offended and frightened by others' lack of boundaries. No, I did not respect authority and go to school, because nothing was done to others for their disrespect.

Anyway, for the record, I don't harbor resentment for the people who worked for the government and dealt with me, many of them (even the police) were good and kind people overall.

I just cannot bring myself to believe that all of man's laws are just and those things which are not directly legislated against are "fair game". I guess I don't think that "I can do it without getting in trouble" is a good reason to do something, nor is "I will get in trouble" cause enough for me to refrain from doing something that hurts no one. I don't think we should have to rely on laws to tell us how to behave with others, but perhaps I'm an optimist.

Originally posted by Schaden

The cops were more than reasonable. You want to walk around in your birthday suit ? Do it on your own property, or join a nudist colony. You have zero rights to walk around naked in a public place.

You honestly feel that it's "reasonable" to respond to a nonviolent offender by kneeing him in the gut, tackling him and tasing him repeatedly?

Originally posted by Schaden
I sure don't want to see some ugly naked weirdo at a concert. I would have called the cops on him myself.

Interesting ..

I dare say that if your first instinct is to call the authorities just because you saw a man naked your issues may lie elsewhere.

Must be difficult for you to be on ATS ...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5e5a0cf72f13.png[/atsimg]

... somebody call somebody! ... and bring a taser ...

[edit on 25 Apr 2009 by schrodingers dog]

reply to post by drwizardphd


I think people keep missing that part of the video, since it happens before all the tazing and resisting.

Yeah, laying compliantly on the ground in a submissive position saying "It doesn't matter man!" sure deserves a good kneeing, followed by a tazing session or two or ten.

reply to post by eMachine
thank you,it is just one of those questions that will be answered when you are thinking the last of those thoughts before you are free of this place.

reply to post by brigand


Man, I'm just waiting for the day someone pops a cop in the middle of that craziness.

There were only three of them... I mean c'mon, me and 8 friends could have caused enough ruckus...

We are not honestly Americans any more when this happens and everyone stands by. Bunch of wusses... they should be deported.

It Is My God Given Responsibiltiy to teach my children the golden rule.

Enforcing it is a completely different issue.

I guess you just have to figure some way to teach them to appreciate fairness.......

Not In The U.S.,unless you want to deprive them of TV.....

reply to post by drwizardphd
What RU Talkin bout?,if I walked around naked in my yard,they would be there in a heartbeat.
Wonderin why all the young ladies around town were gathered there watchin the show........



[edit on 25-4-2009 by chiponbothshoulders]

reply to post by HunkaHunka
The brutes better hope we don't both be witnessing the same crap in the same place,at the same time.
Bro.

I really would wonder how much electricity is sold by those brutish all powerful corporations to us who waste it discussing pointless crap like this.

Sorry.........

Originally posted by drwizardphd
The man is naked, and people are cheering him. There was absolutely no reason for the cops to surround him in such a manner.

Then, he offers a friendly handshake to one of the officers, as if to say, "I am here, naked in peace, leave me be and we can be friends". The officer refuses this kind gesture.

Kind gesture??? Being naked is against the law duuuuude.
Damn hippies......wash your feet! nah j/k
I could't help but laugh at this.....bizZarRe!
I agree that it was rough, but they weren't rough with him initially, at all. The cops were even laughing about it.
He should've put his clothes back on, imo.

If my niece was exposed to this, I woudda knocked this guy out myself.

Originally posted by Redpillblues

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I would think being tased is just the natural end to disrobing and calling yourself a Naked Wizard.

I just wanna know where his invisibility cloak was?I mean if I was a wizzard I woulda atleast cast a Viagra spell on myself before the show

Or atleast some kind of ahem *growth* spell... My god it was like an acorn!!! Perhaps the invisibilty cloak was covering most of him up??

Anyway, The guy ended up being tazered because ultimatley after he refused to put his clothes back on they tried to arrest him and he DID resist. that is why. It really was not because the man was naked, they were patient with him 9at first anyway).

I do think they did go over board with the amount of times they tazered him and what not but, he shouldnt have been resisting anyway.

I miss the day's when teh cops would just knock you down and force your arms behind your back (No that has never happened to me) and they didnt have to pull out a tazer gun... Oh well.

[edit on 25-4-2009 by gimme_some_truth]

At such a gathering, I do not understand why the man's nudity was a problem. After all he was not in an aroused state -- which usually gets included in ordinances involving nudity in many countries.

In my opinion the way the taser was used against this citizen is an outrage against humanity, and if I knew this man I would urge him to take his case to the World Court.

This mad use of the taser must stop or before long our militarised police forces in the English-speaking world will carry a baton/nightstick with a cattle prod at one end and a microwave pain compliance beam at the other end.