Obama, Direction Of U.S. Favored By Most Americans: AP Poll, page 2
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reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 03:25 PM by madhatr137
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I'm sorry, did I say Armed Revolution? No? Okay then.


That is why I had the addendum of "armed or not" later...but yes, sorry, perhaps I was being to forceful.




My point is, perhaps, simply outrage and exhaustion of people, left and right, constantly going on and on about revolution and returning control of this nation back to "the people" when we all know that, in all likelihood...

a.) Few out there have the cajones out there to attempt it.
b.) Few out there are crazy enough to actually attempt it.
c.) The revolution will not be televised.
d.) The vast majority of the population don't care.

In the end, the new boss will be the same as the old boss...

Anyway....to the subject at hand... I don't know what all the fuss is about because, really, Obama is doing an alright job...he could be doing better...but its kind of difficult in this day and age because there is so much animosity from each side of the aisle toward one another...

What is going right? He's attempting to put America back onto the moral high-ground by doubling back onto the "America does not Torture" policy, back in line with international law and the Geneva Convention...despite the fact that those that tortured and lied about it are trying to pretend that they did nothing wrong and that its a problem with everyone else's perception of the world....

He's trying a new approach to creating solvency in the collapsed economic market, instead of just handing out more tax cuts and hoping that Americans can spend themselves out of debt...and despite the objections to the policy, people are regaining confidence, the market is showing signs of recovery, though the real impact of that recovery won't be felt in the workplace for some time...

He's trying to rebuild some of the bridges that Bush burned, as well as some bridges that were burned decades ago...Despite the difficulty of it, not to mention the criticism he is recieving he's reaching out to Iran, and Venezuela, and Cuba.


In any case, now we're at the end of the Honeymoon period, and I would expect that even less slack will be cut for the man....not that a lot was really cut in the first place.

He's doing pretty well...but he has a lot of expectation put on him...

...even if he is a shill for the same Globalists that have been backing every other president since Eisenhower.


reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 03:43 PM by sos37
Hate to be a rain on your little "let's find a way to bash the GOP today" parade, Grover, but since you don't know how to do your own research I'll gladly throw in some real numbers and not just cite a story from Huffington Post.

Obama's Approval Rating

www.gallup.com...

From this chart data on Obama's approval rating, taken since his inauguration, Obama's approval has never been above 69% favorable and never below 59% favorable. Right now it sits at 65% favorable.

However look at the disapproval rating. It's been steadily climbing, from 12% at inauguration to 29% today. 29% is the highest his disapproval has been and 12% is the lowest. If the trend keeps up, the disapproval ratings will eat into his approval ratings as the "I don't know" folks decide where they side.

U.S. Economic Conditions

www.gallup.com...

On January 20, inauguration day, 53% of those polled said economic conditions were poor while only 9% said economic conditions were excellent. Oddly, those percentages are exactly the same for right now. As of today, 4/23/09 we are 93 days into Obama's presidency and the public perception, according to the poll, has not improved.

Job Outlook

www.gallup.com...

After successfully sticking our children and grandchildren with $10 trillion in debt, the job outlook is exactly the same now as it was on inauguration the day. The only difference is Obama has spent a crapload of money to stimulate the economy and create jobs that apparently are not there. His administration did say it would be April before the effects of the stimulus would be felt - will, April is getting close to being over. Where is the grand healing?

It's even worse when you look at the charts on consumer moods and consumer spending and even health care. So since you want to cite an overly-liberal source that is relying on polls today, let's pay attention to an actual polling site that has it's own numbers and has no political affiliations. Let's get the whole story and not some super-sweetened version that is still a spoonful of crap being fed by the liberal media that you seem all to eager to try and feed the good people of ATS. Grover.

McCain would be swamped? Obama IS swamped. It's just that the media has his back and is making every effort to make it seem like he's doing a great job. Remember, they ushered this man into office, so they have a reputation to uphold.


reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 04:15 PM by centurion1211
Originally posted by grover
reply to post by centurion1211


The tea party gatherings were a joke... a million or so out of 330 million... besides that there was absolutely nothing revolutionary about them... they were standing up for the status quo and nothing else.


I guess you think you answered my post, but actually you haven't.

As others have pointed out, the million attendees should be compared to voters - registered or actual or dem or republican. Each comparison gives its own spin on the numbers.

And nothing revolutionary about them? The current status quo is now obama and his obamaphiles (like you are) - so the protesters are revolutionary. Or why are all you obamaphiles so fixated on them if you don't perceive them to be a threat???

And I wonder if back in 1773 there weren't also "tories" that said (like you are) that this was no big deal, just a few malcontents?



reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 04:22 PM by grover
reply to post by centurion1211


The status quo is always the ruling class... those with all the money... not the ones who get elected.


reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 04:23 PM by centurion1211
Originally posted by grover
reply to post by centurion1211


The status quo is always the ruling class... those with all the money... not the ones who get elected.


You mean like Pelosi and Feinstein? They are both.


reply posted on 24-4-2009 @ 11:02 AM by sos37
Originally posted by grover
Originally posted by sos37
Hate to be a rain on your little "let's find a way to bash the GOP today" parade


I don't need to bash the GOP they are doing an excellent job of rendering themselves irrelevant all on their own.


Oh really? And some Democrats in office including some of Obama's own cabinet members have not rendered themselves irrelevant if not outright incompetent? Let's look at a few:

Timothy Geithner - named head of the Treasury Department, which includes the IRS, even though it was found that he neglected to pay some $40,000 in back taxes. He only paid those taxes prior to being vetted for the post.

Janet Napolitano - Recently made the statement that illegals "crossing the border isn't a crime, per se, it's civil." (blogs.chron.com... - the page has the full video interview from CNN). She has an increasing number of constituents and opponents calling for her resignation.

Napolitano has also backed a Dept. of Homeland Security document that labels veterans as right-wing extremists and possible terrorists. A great way to treat men and women who volunteered their very lives in service of this country.

Diane Feinstein - Now in the middle of a scandal involving $25 billion in taxpayer money awarded in a contract to her husband's real estate company to sell foreclosed properties (washingtontimes.com...).

Tom Daschle - another tax dodger who found it necessary to pay some $130,000 in back taxes only prior to being vetted for Obama's Health and Human Services Secretary, which he resigned for shortly afterward.

John Edwards - it was fine for this married Democrat to go up on the podium preaching to the rest of the country about living a responsible, moral lifestyle all the while screwing another woman while his wife suffered from cancer at home. And he wanted to be president.

Vice President Joe Biden - uttered this golden phrase, "You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent. I'm not joking." A phrase that, uttered by any Republican, would have been cause for labeling him/her a racist and calling for their removal.

Eliot Spitzer - New York governor - resigned from office after being tied to a prostitution ring.

Rod Blagojevich - former Illinois governorousted from office and now on trial on corruption charges for allegedly selling Obama's vacant seat to the highest bidder.

We could go on, but the point, I think, has been made. The Democrats' sheets aren't clean and neither are those in the office of your beloved President. So please, spare us the "GOP is bad, GOP makes themselves look worse every day" crap when we know the current administration is doing quite well at coming off like a truckload of fools.
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