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Fox sanitizes 9/11 video archive to conceal perp?

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posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf


The real interesting thing is, if it is him, why deny it?


My conjecture would say that Mr. Riggle is close to the hot button on the 9/11 subject having been on "The Daily Show". That being said, if it was him, he would loose 70% of his fan base directly. His career would be over, because of it. The heads of this don't need to worry about anything, they won't loose an Empire over an Actor, but if it is Riggle, he would be finished in his fan base just for never coping to it.

Just my two half pennies.


Possibly, but unlikely. You would have to assume that 70% of his fan base are skeptics of the Official 9/11 story, which is unlikely. Since the majority of people have little to no interest in 9/11 research, or believe fully in the 9/11 story, it is unlikely he would lose but a small fraction of his fans. For starters, people wouldn't understand the significance of why "Harley Man" a.k.a. Mr. Riggle, if true, is of such great interest. If it turns out to be Riggle, people would more than likely think, "Oh, how cool!" not WTF?

I fear you give the average smuck too much credit in the departments of abstract thought, logical deduction, and connection dots/noti9ng patterns. You and a few others might be able to see the significance, and raise the "WTF" alarm, but the average person's brainwaves will remain flatlined.

My own personal guess is that if it turns out to be Riggle, and he continues to deny it, it is more likely that he has been told not to talk about it from someone else.


I have no doubt he was told not to talk about it, with that I agree.

As far as peoples response goes, how about we say, we believe society would reflect our own feelings, that would be fair for both of our statements.

The real problem is that it doesn't matter if it was him for a case. Wither he did or didn't is moot. He was there, everyone knows this so giving an interview and denying he did it especially being a service member, doesn't surprise me at all.

It's nice, if we figured out a piece, but that's all it is, a piece. A tiny piece and wither him or not, it's not a case...it's a clue.

"The professor did it in the library with a lead pipe...




posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
 


When you put riggle's head right next to Harley man, a resemblence seems alot stronger. In your vid, I watched both their faces and they appeared to be similar, side by side.

Does anyone know anything about digital face comparison/identification technology that we could do some technical analysis on? To add to the voice tests done?


I agree with you. It is a lot easier to see when a side by side comparison can be done with each subject saying similar words. Also, when you can watch his nuances, how he tilts his head, smirks and nods to the left to deliver "Dopey innocent guy who calls it like he see it"....See America, Fox is balanced...they not only treat you stupid, but they play stupid with you.

Really though, i got it from hearing it, not seeing it. It was really nice to see Lombardy Inns work.

It's funny because, he said he got chills when he saw it but, I bet they were no where near as cold as the ones I got when I saw it. Again, Lombardy Inn, thank you sincerely....when I saw your work, it was a nice feeling inside of me. It told me, that I was listening and that was nice to feel from myself. That happened because you took the time to do that, again I humbly thank you Lombardy Inn.

I'm working on stills. I might even model his face, still thinking about that.

Peace



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 01:08 AM
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The Riggler of Gotham?




posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 08:38 AM
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reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
 


True. I have lost any faith in the average person to do something useful or think of things without some major catastrophe in their face.

I am the ultimate pessimist of human nature.



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 08:59 AM
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It's frightening. The second picture you posted really drives it home. The side burns, browline, and eyes seem to fit perfectly. the chin seems similar as well. The only thing that doesn't seem to match is the nose and head shape. But because the footage is slo blurry and crappy, it's impossible to say for certain.

Didn't someone on here say they work with facial recognition technology? That would really help.



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 09:18 AM
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Great job on both threads, to me the resemblance to riggle is astounding, everything from his hair/sideburns his cheekbones his nose even the way he wares his cap with the rim bent is telling me this is one and the same person,

Put that with the voice analysis and all the other information such as him being the Marines spoke person and getting sent far away shortly after 911 and him even being a first responder,well i think THEY have dug a very deep hole here with harley man.

and i agree the foogtage was scripted and the whole "AMERICAN" stereo type thing in the way he is dressed is a give away as well.

And seeing as tho riggle is in the media anyway he shouldn't mind if he comes out and voluntary answers a few questions about this incident and maybe do a harley man re enactment.



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
 


True. I have lost any faith in the average person to do something useful or think of things without some major catastrophe in their face.

I am the ultimate pessimist of human nature.



HEHE, that I can hear.

It will be nice to have a world that doesn't need a catalyst to whirl, but then again..."the page is black, the page is white...."

I have some even better stills coming up.

Did you hear about his twitter response? One of Riggle's friends must of caught word as he was answering in a personal tone. His response is fishy to me. "It's 100% not me...", but remember, in the marines you gotta give 110%. He's Hidden 10%. Seriously though, it's like buying something off of craigslist. Why do they, the sellers, always need to tell me why they are getting rid of it? "oh I'm moving"...I never ask why, yet they tell me and this is what I find out every time someone does that...the goods are hot.

We didn't ask him if he was Florida squeezed...!



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by stealthyaroura
Great job on both threads, to me the resemblance to riggle is astounding, everything from his hair/sideburns his cheekbones his nose even the way he wares his cap with the rim bent is telling me this is one and the same person,



Sorry but this seemed like a big joke at first but now it's fantasy turning to deception.

It's clear to me in that last image letthereaderunderstand actually photoshopped the Harley Guy image to stretch his head to make it fit Riggle's more.




The shapes of their heads are NOTHING alike so he had to alter the image.

Please be truthful "letthereaderunderstand " and answer whether or not you altered that image to change the shape of his head.

In fact you don't even need to answer becuase it's 100% obvious that you DID.

Why would you do that?

Harley Guy looks more like Peter Brady or the creator of family guy, Seth McFarland than he does Riggle with his big pear shaped head.




Hell he looks more like Stewie!



Don't you guys realize?

It does not even matter who Harley Guy is because he did nothing wrong.

He merely repeated the story that the entire world bought hook line and sinker as if he was deceived by the perps as intended.

Sure he may have been a plant but that is 100% unprovable.

EVEN IF it was Riggle (all though it clearly it is NOT) he would have nothing to lose by admitting it.

There is zero evidence that implicates harley guy.

We HAVE hard evidence implicating a lot of people in fact we have hard evidence that PROVES the cab driver, Lloyde England, was involved.

Not only that but we have his virtual CONFESSION that he was involved and of course we already know his identity.

Zero guesswork.

Search all of Hollywood for Harley Guy look-alikes all you want but once you start photoshopping to make your point and I see it convincing others I can't remain silent.



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
The Riggler of Gotham?



Did you alter that photo on the right?



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by SPreston

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
The Riggler of Gotham?



Did you alter that photo on the right?


Nope, just a mask. I pulled the still from the deleted "step brothers" seen. I did enlarge the photos, both of them, but scaled them.

But seriously, what do you think of "the riggler" as a new name?...lol

Peace



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 11:16 AM
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I will tell you this. Harley guy has been messed with in more then one way. I am actually doubting this was a live interview but rather a prerecorded spot. I am almost positive they are matting the background. Can't tell from the motion stuff, but the individual frames have some weird stuff going on.

Trying to collect my findings and I will present them to you guys.

Peace



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 12:15 PM
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sorry craig, I just now saw your questions. I didn't see it before.

Honest to God though I didn't alter the photo other then enlarge it and cut out the stuff around him so, I could do the side by side.

I have the originals.

The riggle picture is a still from step brothers deleted scenes and the harley guy video i pulled from titled, "Absolute proof 9/11 was an inside job part 4.

I've included them together but can post them separate if you want to verify Craig.

Thank you for only suggesting I was doing funny business.

Peace




posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT

It does not even matter who Harley Guy is because he did nothing wrong.
Sure he may have been a plant but that is 100% unprovable.




I can't believe I'm actually going to say this, but for once I actually agree with Craig.
Wow, there's a first for everything.



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by SPreston


Did you alter that photo on the right?


No he didn't change Riggle's big long head...what he did was even worse.....he altered HARLEY GUY'S head to make it look more like Riggle's




I'm saddened by this.

I really thought if anyone would be able to recognize this as a ridiculous wild goose chase it would be you SPreston.

This is too serious of an issue and we have too much strong evidence proving a deception to keep chasing our tails as if this is some kind of fun game.

It's time to seriously hunker down and focus so we can actually be productive moving towards justice.

9/11 has been PROVEN to be a black operation so we as citizens must join together in a non-violent push to force accountability.

It is our duty and a literal matter of life or death.

Perhaps letthereaderunderstand had honest intentions originally but it's clear now that his burning desire for Harley Guy to be Rob Riggle has progressed to the point of a becoming a deliberate hoax via photoshop.



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 12:34 PM
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Looks like I spoke to soon. Craig, you have slandered me and judged me before I could even answer.

Why would I falsify something to make a point that doesn't exist?

I couldn't agree with you more. I find that even if it is Riggle, as it has been suggested,big deal. Riggle is not the concern as it could of been me that day for all you know, but Riggle could give answers if indeed it is him. He could answer first, how he knew the info, if he actually saw anything, why was he never heard from again being as well known as he is in the 9/11 circle.

It's peace by piece man and little links make big chains.

What bothers me is that you say it is NOT Riggle. I've never told anyone that it is absolutely him because if I did, I'd be a liar, unless I knew the truth. There is no reason to become offended. Are you robs personal friend or something? If so, tell him we want to talk, just a few questions.

So, either you KNOW the truth, or you are lying. I'd hate to think it is the second one, but I don't know. I will let you prove that one out...to everyone else, they are just looking for answers and riggle is an option, just like poor Mark Humphrey who has been receiving death threats for the last 6 years. You want to talk about not looking like the harley guy, see Humphrey.

Peace

Peace

[edit on 30-4-2009 by letthereaderunderstand]

[edit on 30-4-2009 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 12:37 PM
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a few days ago, on the Alex Jones Show, they played a clip of a gov't made fake news cast played to law enforcement. It was all about a bio weapon and was released before 9-11. The weird thing is, the clip starts with a woman introducing the subject, but she then cuts over to a male. As I was listening I couldn't help but hear the Harley Man's voice.

I DID NOT see the video so I cannot confirm this but it was strange. I am trying to track this video down and if anyone has any idea, please post a link. Hope I am wrong.

Still loving this thread.



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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I don't think it is Humphrey either.

I only stated how others said it was him and how I think he looks MORE like Humphrey than Riggle.

But to be honest I think Seth McFarland and Peter Brady look more like him than Humphrey does!

So what??

A LOT of people look like him. That is the entire point.

Bottom line none of this is valid evidence and it is clear to me that whether or not YOU were the one to make Harley Guy's head longer to match Riggle's head in that image, then someone else did because it is obviously altered.



Plus I know you have seen the more clear non-altered image with the rounder head so whether or not you altered the other one, you deliberately chose to use it over a more clear non-altered version that is obviously not Riggle and therefore would not have matched at all in your comparison.



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 01:24 PM
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I apologize Craig, I see what you are saying, but honestly I didn't alter anything that I had.

I just reviewed the report that I have and see that the video is stretched. My apologies.

I actually wanted to ask you where you are getting your stills from?

The video that I pulled harley guy from was the best one I could find that you could see his face in and that is the only reason I used it.

Sorry to not have caught it stretched out, but I swear that is how I received it from you tube. I put the titles in the last post, you can check those movies to see if I am lying, but you have my word that I'm not.

I will tell you the truth when ever I recognize it, that's my promise to all of you.

Craig is correct the harley video is stretched. Craig if you could tell me where I can get a good copy like in the stills you're posting I would appreciate it.

Thanks again,

Peace

[edit on 30-4-2009 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by Craig Ranke CIT

Originally posted by stealthyaroura
Great job on both threads, to me the resemblance to riggle is astounding, everything from his hair/sideburns his cheekbones his nose even the way he wares his cap with the rim bent is telling me this is one and the same person,



Sorry but this seemed like a big joke at first but now it's fantasy turning to deception.

It's clear to me in that last image letthereaderunderstand actually photoshopped the Harley Guy image to stretch his head to make it fit Riggle's more.




The shapes of their heads are NOTHING alike so he had to alter the image.

Please be truthful "letthereaderunderstand " and answer whether or not you altered that image to change the shape of his head.

In fact you don't even need to answer becuase it's 100% obvious that you DID.

Why would you do that?

Harley Guy looks more like Peter Brady or the creator of family guy, Seth McFarland than he does Riggle with his big pear shaped head.




Hell he looks more like Stewie!



Don't you guys realize?

It does not even matter who Harley Guy is because he did nothing wrong.

He merely repeated the story that the entire world bought hook line and sinker as if he was deceived by the perps as intended.

Sure he may have been a plant but that is 100% unprovable.

EVEN IF it was Riggle (all though it clearly it is NOT) he would have nothing to lose by admitting it.

There is zero evidence that implicates harley guy.

We HAVE hard evidence implicating a lot of people in fact we have hard evidence that PROVES the cab driver, Lloyde England, was involved.

Not only that but we have his virtual CONFESSION that he was involved and of course we already know his identity.

Zero guesswork.

Search all of Hollywood for Harley Guy look-alikes all you want but once you start photoshopping to make your point and I see it convincing others I can't remain silent.




Why would you assume the OP altered the image? That's a VERY serious accusation, and you've offered NO proof to back up YOUR claims.

Makes me wonder exactly what YOUR intentions are.

And maybe excatly WHAT you are.

[edit on 30/4/09 by MajesticJax]



posted on Apr, 30 2009 @ 01:31 PM
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Double PPost- Sorry, got caught up in the dis-info campaign!


[edit on 30/4/09 by MajesticJax]



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