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The Craig's List Killer is MKULTRA

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posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 05:21 AM
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Good morning. I can't help but believe that this young man was a trained MKULTRA assassin (or whatever the government calls their latest brainwashing program for assassins) who was tested on the world through these horrible events that unfolded recently. The murder of that poor young lady and robbery and the robberies of the others. Obviously, our government has something serious in the works to be testing one of their subjects this way.

The government has now proven that they can take a young med student and turn him into a killer. Who is the real target and when is it going to happen?

Thoughts?


[edit on 23-4-2009 by Excitable_Boy]




posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 06:11 AM
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I don't believe as you say he was a MKULTRA assassin, i think he was a bored kid out to try and get some excitement.. got a little carried away while robbing the lady and shot her some 3 times in the chest..these things happen everyday.

it also said that he may of been responsible for another robbery which someone was attacked held at gun point, but fled as the husband came home...

i think he was targeting woman for easy gain, robbed and shot her and well... got caught.




posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 06:46 AM
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I am not sure about this. Although I think the CIA has experimented on creating Manchurian Candidate-like operatives, I don't think we should see every case of a seemingly normal person acting in a way that almost defies belief as a case of brain-washing/programming.

There is a very fine line between sanity and insanity - so fine that many of us can attest to the fact that we have all come close to "snapping" and doing things that would go against all conventional society norms.

Luckily for us, we are all brain-washed from birth so that we are able to fit into these norms. Thou shalt not kill, steal etc. are all part of what we perceive to be acceptable behaviour in order to function in our society.

Sometimes it is not that the person is brainwashed ala MKUltra, but merely that the society's brainwashing or social conditioning "did not take" or failed to hold in check the subject's natural animal brutal tendencies.

A common theme with returning veterans from a brutal war is the so-called Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome which often manifests itself in highly aberrant behaviour. One reason for this is that soldiers are often asked to do things that causes something called cognitive dissonance - a state where they literally have a war in their heads - a war between what civilian social demands and a behaviour that is now discouraged in peace time - a behaviour encouraged during war (aggression, killing etc).



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 07:14 AM
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Originally posted by Excitable_Boy
Good morning. I can't help but believe that this young man was a trained MKULTRA assassin (or whatever the government calls their latest brainwashing program for assassins) who was tested on the world through these horrible events that unfolded recently. The murder of that poor young lady and robbery and the robberies of the others. Obviously, our government has something serious in the works to be testing one of their subjects this way.

The government has now proven that they can take a young med student and turn him into a killer. Who is the real target and when is it going to happen?

Thoughts?


[edit on 23-4-2009 by Excitable_Boy]


Every think he was studying medicine to be a more efficient killer? My hex-wife was studying serial killers and they tended to have a thing for medical texts.



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 07:51 AM
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I also thought for quite awhile now that the gov is waking up these cells of unlikely people to cause mayhem and death to anyone as tests or distractions.
Anything is possible.



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 07:54 AM
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This theory of yours can be used on many infamous serial killers as well. Look at Ted Bundy.... I just think he was a deeply disturbed man nothing else.



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 08:01 AM
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Let me remind you all of the UNIBOMBER, Ted K., worked for the CIA special brain futzing department, was himself brainwashed, then went on to brainwash others...It is said he knew so much that he went crazy.
More info on him all over the Internet.



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 08:02 AM
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The government already proved that it can turn people into murderers. All those murderers of handcuffed and blindfolded Iraqi civilians were dark rituals conducted to initiate soldiers into the sacred craft of murder and cover-up.

Most likely the craig's list killer was a failed recruit or perhaps even his handlers are ruined, so he self-destructed.



posted on Apr, 23 2009 @ 09:32 AM
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Could you please provide some links to back up your statement ... I know I can search for him on google but it would be nice to be directed directly to the source material instead of wading through the bs.
Simply stating "it is said" does not help much.



posted on Apr, 24 2009 @ 02:48 AM
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I doubt the feds have any interest in disappearing craigslist prostitutes. Occam's Razor says he was just some random loon. I like the theory of MKULTRA assassins in general, but i don't think it applies in this case.


TA



posted on Apr, 25 2009 @ 09:11 AM
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I doubt the feds have any interest in disappearing craigslist prostitutes


I'm not saying they do. I'm saying this was a test. Only a test and it appears the young man passed with flying colors.

I am curious as to who the real target is...



posted on Apr, 25 2009 @ 09:22 AM
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this is rediculous..Can we please have one post that doesnt bring up Poor Iraqi people...Enough is enough...



posted on Apr, 25 2009 @ 10:41 AM
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Out of all the murders committed across the US in a regular basis, what makes you think this one in particular had anything to do with a shadow government operation? What is the link, the reason, the evidence, that points you to this conclusion??

He was a student in severe financial distress due to a gambling addiction. In fact, they arrested him on his way to a nearby casino. He was robbing victims who were likely to remain quite due to their professions so that he could pay his gambling debts. It is easy to rob a young woman who does not want anyone to know about her profession as she is highly unlikely to call the cops to report the crime. When one woman fought back, he ended up killing her with a gun.

If, and that is a BIG if, he was part of some MKULTRA type program, why do you label it a success? He got caught very quickly and did nothing to cover his tracks. An assassin would not have robbed several women first and would not have collected the victims panties.



They murderer was simply a loser with a gambling debt who took the wrong way out.



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 05:35 PM
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If, and that is a BIG if, he was part of some MKULTRA type program, why do you label it a success? He got caught very quickly and did nothing to cover his tracks. An assassin would not have robbed several women first and would not have collected the victims panties


That could have been exactly what he was programmed to do. If they can get a guy to rob women, kill one and steal panties and what not - then it's pretty easy to prgram someone to do a simple assassination. i.e. Sirhan Sirhan....

I wouldn't be surpirsed if this kid says he "doesn't remember" any of it. You watch!



posted on Apr, 29 2009 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by xXGrimSlayerXx
I don't believe as you say he was a MKULTRA assassin, i think he was a bored kid out to try and get some excitement.. got a little carried away while robbing the lady and shot her some 3 times in the chest..these things happen everyday.

it also said that he may of been responsible for another robbery which someone was attacked held at gun point, but fled as the husband came home...

i think he was targeting woman for easy gain, robbed and shot her and well... got caught.



the funny thing is... you.. the poster I'm responding to.. your response to this situation.. IS the desired result of any contrived designed situation the OP is describing..
to brush these types of situations as "just what happens" .. or like "hey it's just how people are man"...

THAT is the desired effect to be gleaned from so many stories like this happening "on purpose" or not..

complete indifference in being able to discern human nature from modified abused degraded of a puppet mind control victim.


you just "think that sort of thing just happens" .. hay man "thats the way the world is" "/shrug//" ... this is the type of mentality that is the DESIRED RESULT of these projects...


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posted on May, 2 2009 @ 02:20 PM
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I know this was posted a while ago, but i just came across this now. anyway i know of this kid pretty well one of my good friends went to school with him and talked to him quite a bit and i actually live about a block away from this kid. he is no assassin by all means, he is just some messed up kid that did something incredibly stupid because he was bored.he didn't do it to rob her either he wanted to have "FUN" with her if you know what i mean and it just went bad, he got scared and didn't want her to tell anybody what he had done or tried to do, so he killed her so she wouldn't speak. he was scared and messed up...


Peace



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