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Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by smokingmonkey
The idea of being intercepted on his way to paradise, converted into a greasy, steamy pile of hog crap is not going to make momma proud, nor will it entice new recruits.
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by jfj123
Oh yeah. Poor, poor pitiful me.
It would stop suicide bombings though if all the little pieces were gathered, placed in baggies, and fed to the hogs on camera.
Fact.
Except when they strap the vests on retards who don't even know what's going on.
Really nice guys.
And I'm the one with such hatred.
Hey! You're the expert!
Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by jfj123
I think a suicide bomber could be classified as a non-uniformed combatant. And of course, under international law, you can dispose of the pieces any way you wish.
And if it worked against suicide bombers . . .
Originally posted by jfj123
This is the second time this little bit of my post has been quoted. Alone it looks like I make the arguement you accuse me of. All together I am asking what makes us better then what we have done?
Everyone is saying that we are better then that. I am asking when have we been better then that?
At one time, we allowed slavery. We decided that it wasn't morally correct, etc.. so we outlawed slavery. We became better then what we were.
Maybe NOW is the time for us to become better then we were. Throughout history, there have been pivotal moments where people have stood up and said no more or never again. Maybe this is one of those times.
Yes we outlawed slavery.
And when we did outlaw slavery we punished everyone who chose to break that law.
We haven't been nowhere near as diligent about torture. We can't ignore it all this time and one day choose to uphold the law.
The law has to be upheld at all times or it becomes impotent.
If we want to say we were wrong, then so be it. But if we want to prosecute then we have to do a full fledge investigation. We will have to treat the government as a buisness and dig back as far as we can and find out if anyone still in politics or alive was or has ever been involved with torture.
But to call for the head of one administration is nothing but a witch hunt.
Quoted for the gospel TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by jfj123
Having been to Afghanistan your approach to capture osama would be a joke.There are thousands of caves in the area cant bomb them all.The only way we ever found any locations in those mountains was thou intel. And guess were that intel came from only 2 sources snitches and interrogations of captured insurgents, And i dont think they said please tell us were you guys are hiding. Look ill give you this brand new 360 still in the box. You people are a joke you want your families to be safe from radicals willing to kill you without losing any sleep. But when push comes to shove youll lay down and die.
Having dealt with these terrorists watching them do things such as send a car bomb in the middle of a mosque just to show the afgans the price for removing the taliban. Went into a village not to far from Kandahar alqueda came thou about a month after we helped them dig a well. We handed out dolls and candy to the kids blankets to the adults. When al Queda visited any body who had anything from the soldiers was killed. Ever seen a 5 year old girl shot throu the head because she had a teddy bear?
These people only have one belief and that is convert the world to the Muslim religion and are willing to go as far as they have to in order to further there goals. I was idealistic once but after seeing what were up against im concerned. As far as torture there version of torture was just in humane one tribal leader had his eyes burned out with a hot poker for accepting US govt money. All i have to say is we need this country to toughen up or god help us all.
Originally posted by Redpillblues
How do you handle an enemy that has no problem blowing themselves up?
Originally posted by Redpillblues
reply to post by Exuberant1
since when has both of those documents you speek of afford any foreigner protection?
Originally posted by Redpillblues
So your telling me Hadgi in Mosul is protected by the Bill of Rights?
but I do know that our constitution and bill of rights stop at our borders..
Originally posted by Redpillblues
by your logic,unless I'm sadly mistaken,our documents are law world wide..is this what your saying??
Originally posted by Exuberant1
Do you support Constitution Free Zones?
If your refering to these
www.aclu.org...
for legal US citizen no,I beleive i should be protected by my constitution until i hit international waters..It would make where the documents were signed,well unconstutional
No,you were giving enhanced interrogation
Originally posted by Exuberant1
If I waterboarded you after suspecting you of being a terrorist, would I have I committed a crime? [edit on 1-5-2009 by Exuberant1]
Thanks in advance.
[edit on 1-5-2009 by Redpillblues]
Originally posted by Redpillblues
No,you were giving enhanced interrogation
Originally posted by Redpillblues
Please stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your questions are enough torture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If your trying to find out my mind set or morals or just ask will ya..