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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
They know that, they also know that if they are taking captive by the enemy they wont come home alive. let see waterboarding or death? I choose waterboarding. Kinda of a no brainer. Dont you think?
And who did we hang after WWII for waterboarding? I was under the impression from what I study NAZIs were put to death for the brutal rape,murder and torture(no waterboarding) of jews,poles,gyosy and whoever else they diddnt like. I dont know about you but my country has never started a war that can has clamied up to 80 Million lives( Not sure if that is the correct number.)
[edit on 23-4-2009 by poedxsoldiervet]
Originally posted by Kryties
You can present these guys with all the provable facts that you wish but it will not affect them - they will continue to believe that it is not torture because they do not know how to think for themselves.
Originally posted by platosallegory
Putting someones head under water for 20-40 seconds is nothing. This only happened to 3 or 4 terrorist and it led to some helpful information that stopped attacks in LA and New York.
Originally posted by space cadet
reply to post by platosallegory
I don' get it, Obama is acting more and more like a wussy, I thought he had strength, but he keeps doing things that make him look like the weakest link.
Originally posted by Chucktah
reply to post by CapsFan8
So when it matters those that signed up to protect you were heros and deserved our respect, but when you don't agree with the administrations rules, they're dummies? That makes no sense at all.
Originally posted by Chucktah
reply to post by Titen-Sxull
My next question is this...if I were to agree to get waterboarded without getting paid would that shut you guys up who say that the only difference between torture and non-torture is getting paid? Because I will gladly do it!!!!
[edit on 24-4-2009 by Chucktah]
In this procedure, the individual is bound securely to an inclined bench, which is approximately four feet by seven feet. The individual's feet are generally elevated. A cloth is placed over the forehead and eyes. Water is then applied to the cloth in a controlled manner. As this is done, the cloth is lowered until it covers both the nose and mouth. Once the cloth is saturated and completely covers the mouth and nose, air flow is slightly restricted for 20 to 40 seconds due to the presence of the cloth… During those 20 to 40 seconds, water is continuously applied from a height of twelve to twenty-four inches. After this period, the cloth is lifted, and the individual is allowed to breathe unimpeded for three or four full breaths… The procedure may then be repeated. The water is usually applied from a canteen cup or small watering can with a spout… You have… informed us that it is likely that this procedure would not last more than twenty minutes in any one application."
In contrast to submerging the head face-forward in water, waterboarding precipitates a gag reflex almost immediately. The technique does not inevitably cause lasting physical damage. It can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, lasting psychological damage or, ultimately, death. Adverse physical consequences can start manifesting months after the event; psychological effects can last for years.
CIA officers who have subjected themselves to the technique have lasted an average of 14 seconds before caving in.