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I was a Gray Alien in past life

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posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
Greetings Lowki. Pleasant days to you. You mention places where the feeling was isolationist,
and if I recall corrctly others that were "sterile" or lacking "warmth" in any satisfying sense.

yes the sunflower galaxy m63
upon further mind-sensation,
I remember once having reached m51,
I joined up with some group of "hunters",
which would raid planets, kill people, and steal their souls.
which would then be sold on the black or open markets at whirlpool m51.
karmically since I wasn't asking for consent, it led to my enslavement, for over a hundred million years.

the isolationism at sunflower m63 I postulate,
was a defense mechanism, against m51 raids,
as any species that would gather in groups,
would have a higher likelihood of being taken en mass.

So when I was a frog man,
after fertilizing a females eggs,
she smiled waved farewell and left.

I then stayed around in the swamps a while,
eventually I went up the river systems,
and encountered land hominids,
curly dark haired pale,
bit shorter and stouter.

they did go around in groups in a forest,
I eventually incarnated as one of them,
they had a contract with the takers,
to offer occasional sacrifices,
from the castle tower,
I was one such.



other that were routine or boring,

It's not that m33 triangulum was boring,
it's that so much was in the mind,
and had little physical reciprocate.

at m33 a wise man told me
"there is no how,
there is only the goal"

So the mages there,
simply made things appear,
without technological innovation.

It required very strict mental discipline,
something that I wasn't quite into at the time,
having bathed in psychedelics at sunflower m63.
and having the robot host-bodies help store mind at whirlpool m51.
my soul didn't work in the same rigorous fashion of the triangulum m33's.
As they were using liquid body sacks, which aren't as easy to make stable.



I would imagine robot worlds or perhaps grey hive type existences may both be a bit too "logical" in nature to be much "fun",

grays yes, robots no.


one of the things I remember doing a lot of on whirlpool m51 was sporting events.
I guess I was used as a race-horse like contraption,
or for various competitive sports,
like Colosseum style games.

my owners would make money off the betting,
or from some other related revenue stream,
as the products which my soul produced.

I did do some factory oversight but it was minor,
my main purpose was typically to test the technology.

sometimes I would escape or get captured by some rebel faction,
that's where I learned most about creating robot-host-bodies,
as we had to make more rebel forces.

due to my "tester" experiences,
I often went into battle or did other confrontations like rescues,
occasionally would get recaptured by the slave masters,
and of course having been a "pirate" it was an enslave-able offense.
when I got tired of the cat and mouse game,
is when I decided to leave m51 for something new.

figured could found a free order of free robots,
far away from whirlpool m51, so could have a stable foundation.
milky way seems like prime habitat.

we have technology, freedom lovingness (reptilians), and peaceful co-habitation (mammalians).
though ya, I've heard lots of people complain that reptilians enslave people,
and I guess they do in a way, with the chains and the whipping,
I just developed the knack of dieing when enslaved,
reptilians are happy to eat slackers.

reptilian children are typically abandoned when young,
so that to me was quite homey like sunflower m63,
it's total freedom to do whatever you want.



or is that a fair evaluation for either of these? Or were there "kinks" in their programs that added some randomness or amusing circumstances?


many grays lead simple lives,
everything is for hive and reproduction,
there is very little dilly dallying about entertainment.


psychoactive chemicals are quite popular amongst the grays.
i wouldn't be surprised if the CIA's 60's experiment was related.

though with earth human influence they are rediscovering things,
I'm in contact with a rogue hive of grays telepathically,
that has been working on mechanical hybrids,
as well as gardening for soul acquisition,
making a more integrated eco-system.

"aiming for soulfull equilibrium,
allowing us to not be a parasite on another species,
by having the integrationg with eco-system,
that allows souls to come to us,
up through the rocks, plants, animals,
and incarnate into our hives host-bodies.

"it also brightens the hearts,minds auras of the children,
who love to play in the garden with the plants,
the gray-hybrids play at night without lights,
the human-hybrids play in daytime with lights.
the actual garden uses artificial light in a cave."

commander (galacticus, gapiticos, gapitos) of the celestial unknown variety.

there has been a marked increase in host-body survivability,
as well as general sense of well being has increased.

there are even some experiments with music,
I mind-see a gray strumming a single stringed instrument.

gapitos sees children assembled siting around him,
he smiles to himself, reassured it's beneficial,
if the children like it, their souls are more likely to stay.
the gray strumming is telepathically telling a story to the beat.
not all comprehend the telepathy, but at least like the music.



In human existence as we experience here on Earth we seem to be such biological "misfits" that our inabilities to find a comfortable niche seem to be the impetus for our arts and culture. How are aesthetics appreciated in other worlds? In some is hard logic the only value? In those worlds are there diversions that have value beyond the "order of the day"?

well in whirlpool m51 there were colors to distinguish teams,
I mind-see prominently a white bot with green lapel stripes,
going out into the crowd with arms raised.

in Triangulum m33 we typically wore simple robes, of various fashions and colors,
typically had a clan or status designation.

on sunflower m63 as frogman I didn't have clothes,
and the land-people on that planet like reddish-brown tops and dark bottoms,

on the other planets in m63 people had clothing,
but it usually had dull colors, and coarse fabrics, like medieval peasants.
I remember on another planet they liked dull blue and dull green.



Does our chaotic existence here and our inability to find complete self-satisfaction give this world more character, more "spice of life" so to speak?

I classify fun as movement and interaction with the spiritual or physical body.
the most fun someone can have physically, is in massive short-range bladed combat.
or at least that's the most physical fun that I've had,
coliseums of whirlpool m51 and flying combat of draco reptilians.

mental fun it would be sunflower m63 for the psychoactive,
and triangulum m33 for all the magical thinking practices.

milky way is a pleasant mix though a bit heavy on the physical stuff.
which is just fine for introducing robot host bodies.

"inability to find complete satisfaction"?
I'm not sure what you mean, since I'm completely satisfied.



Are we unique at all in that regard?

time requires change, for notable difference.



Or do other worlds you have known have its own amusements? Such as?

drugs m63,
technology m51,
magic m33,
food violence milky way.

as you may know reptilians are violent,
and do lots of herding of their food.

ya sure the mammalians are relatively peaceful,
but i have no idea what they do for fun, gardening I guess
to my knowledge otherwise it's usually magical thinking,
typically for healing to counter-act violence,
so is still intricately related.



And is that inspired through a similar impetus as ours, or through what means is that culture created?

Like Ra says,
every galactic logos,
has it's own distinctive personality.



19.11 Questioner: This seems to be a carefully planned or engineered stage of development. Can you tell me anything of the origin of this plan or its development?

Ra: I am Ra. We go back to previous information. Consider and remember the discussion of the Logos. With the primal distortion of free will, each galaxy developed its own Logos. This Logos has complete free will in determining the paths of intelligent energy which promote the lessons of each of the densities given the conditions of the planetary spheres and the sun bodies.




Among the other sentient beings are we unique in ways our uniqueness is respected, revered, or at least considered pleasantly amusing?

in the context of this galaxy,
earth is a relatively diverse place,
it is special since it has had so much attention,
it is a planet that was modified by sentients to harbor biological life.

we have flora and fauna from all over the galaxy,
and likely some that are found in other galaxies.




Thank you Lowki. Those are important concerns to me.
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posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 01:37 PM
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There are infinite channels, and I guess this is a frequency thing. We all need to raise our frequency higher and have love for others, for the frequency changes occur daily in us, moment by moment we progress or regress consciousness, rather grow brighter or dimmer. I have this strong feeling its going to be changing soon, the SHFT or earth changes, or crashed economies, whatever it is that is coming in the physical, there is an underlying real, more real than here, expansion or progression going on. Its as if many have played many roles, and made U-Turns many times on the roads, they've learnt so much, and I feel everyone is going to progress here sooner than later now, something is coming and its going to be very good for everyone in the end. I've been having some really strong positives coming in recently, despite disturbances, setbacks, just they shine right through and I just keep seeing them. Everytime I step outside I get uplifted by more encouragement.

When we are striving to look honestly at where we're at, even take our lives into meditation, reflection and ask with humbleness and gratitude, all that is True Love and Postive, Higher Ups/Family/Higher Self, what needs fixing, where we can improve, what we need to see, and how to give more to others, giving unblocks lots of blocked channels and energy and when we can respond with compassion and love and see light in even some metaphorically darker beings, people, we draw protection. We switch channels so to speak. Our consciousness and awareness grows.

When we mess up, lose awareness, hurt someone, turn away from what we are nudged within to see or do, we switch channels, and fall into the hands of those who can affect us, dim us down, hurt us and our awareness, our consciousness shrinks. Its an ongoing things. And those millions of years you speak of, in No Time, its like, a proverbial second, but seems so long, this school.

Do you notice that, when you step outside, things are clearer and inspiration, connections come quick?
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posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Interesting short story, you could write science fiction. Are we gonna move this to the short story section or what?
I mean there is no substance really here. I vote for move to short story section of ATS.



posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Interesting short story, you could write science fiction. Are we gonna move this to the short story section or what?
I mean there is no substance really here. I vote for move to short story section of ATS.



Not certain of your suggestion or reasoning. This section is "The Gray Area - Personal Stories". That would seem more appropriate for this thread than "Short Stories" as this is ongoing Q&A and not a completed work, nor even a work in progress for that matter.

Or is there an underlying suggestion in your suggestion?


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posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 05:00 PM
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How is this a personal story? The OP didnt put up any sort of proof really, I mean come on. It is just a work of fiction. Plain and simple.



posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Its not about proof, its a personal sharing, and what you find in what he shares is what this is really about. Basically its about seeking, whether you just buy official stories or are the kind of person who is a deep thinker and knows things don't add up. Then, some seek, meditate, stargaze. Have or remember experiences. This is the section for sharing this. Metaphysics is a good one too for it also relays on past lives, memories, awareness. Some of us find this thread very interesting.



posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 05:29 PM
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This whole thread is about Lowki's personal recollections and anecdotes. Perhaps the description and comments posted at the beginning of this forum would help.

Originally posted by Majic: Understanding the Gray Area


The Gray Area is a discussion forum that provides a dedicated area for members to post their confessions, disclosures, and related extraordinary personal experiences. Like the highly speculative Skunk Works forum, The Gray Area will tolerate topics that may be unusually hypothetical or unproven for the purpose of vetting the stories of thread-starters by the ATS membership at large.

By nature, The Gray Area tends to involve unproven claims and anecdotal testimony that may arouse skepticism in some members.

As always, skepticism is fine, but only when expressed in accordance with the AboveTopSecret.com Terms And Conditions Of Use.

In particular, Courtesy Is Mandatory. Insults, ridicule, harassment, abuse and similar behavior constitute a direct attack on what this forum is intended for, and will be treated accordingly.

Members unable to politely discuss unusual, unproven or unorthodox subjects should avoid this forum.


Your skepticism and vote are noted. Thanks.


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posted on Jan, 23 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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I appreciate your post. I just had a couple of questuions. I aplogise if these have already been answered, i did not go thru all the posts. How did you come to the realization that you were in a fact a grey in a prior life? Could you possibly be picking up on vibrations that are out there and molded it to suite you personally. Im not saying that this is not possible, i just would like to know how you are able to do this. This being, knowing what and who you were in past lives. I have tried for a long time to astral project, lucid dreams, meditations, etc.. and have never been able to achieve this higher plaine of information. If you could let me on how to do this or give me an idea on how to achieve this. I would greatly appreciate it. And again thank you for your post.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 04:03 AM
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In order to make me believe, how about a video of you communicating with said hive? Can you communicate with your people and arrange for them to show themselves in the sky on Earth? Then tell us where they will appear and when? If you claim to be everything you be, please show me something..

I believe in ET's and that something else is out there and possibly here but without solid proof THIS thread will be nothing more than mere imaginiation with some research thrown in.

I'll be waiting Lowki



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by iMawake
In order to make me believe, how about a video of you communicating with said hive?

that would just be a video of me thinking or meditating.

when we have robot-host-bodies it may be easier to record mind-sensations.

though star-beings can already do it, with our liquid sacks
likely intelligence-agencies also,
it's not publicly available tech.



Can you communicate with your people and arrange for them to show themselves in the sky on Earth?
Then tell us where they will appear and when? If you claim to be everything you be, please show me something..

no, there is a whole forum for "lights in the sky",
if you want to look at pictures of lights in the sky,
then please abovetopsecret.com...




I believe in ET's and that something else is out there and possibly here but without solid proof THIS thread will be nothing more than mere imaginiation with some research thrown in.

I'll be waiting Lowki


pictures and videos while factual,
some people can deny any external evidence.

You can have truth by your own personal experience.
Cast magic spells and recognize the results.
That will be your proof.


Originally posted by damilo
I appreciate your post. I just had a couple of questuions. I aplogise if these have already been answered, i did not go thru all the posts. How did you come to the realization that you were in a fact a grey in a prior life?

magic spells to remember past lives.
It was proved to me that it was working,
when a hypnotherapist did past-life regression,
and I was experiencing the same kind of memory.



i just would like to know how you are able to do this. This being, knowing what and who you were in past lives. I have tried for a long time

As Yoda says, "don't try, do".

Read up on what it actually is,
and recognize that you already do it,
at least in some limited capacity,
which you can expand upon.



to astral project,

imagine self outside of body


lucid dreams,

record dreams
do research about it,
there are many videos online.



meditations, etc..

there are many different kinds of meditations.



and have never been able to achieve this higher plaine of information.

which plane of information?
there are many chakra's,
each with it's own info.



If you could let me on how to do this or give me an idea on how to achieve this. I would greatly appreciate it. And again thank you for your post.

write down your goals,
you've cast some magic spells.

be aware of the goal, (magic spell)
go through the motions of achieving the goal, (ritual)
choose which variant of the goal you accept. spirits play options in your mind, express yes, no or suggestion.
then allow for the goal to become true, or appear (manifestation).

before you begin,
make sure to start with list of ethics,
like how you'd like anyone that is affected by the magic,
to be uplifted, happier, healthier, more loving and respectful.
it's best to have spells to keep your friends and family safe, and prosperous.


Originally posted by sphinx551
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Lowki,
Do you think Earth is the "poorest" and/or "least developed" human planet (in terms of technology and advancement)?

no not at all.
we have lots of technology.

our main detriment is social relations.
in western society it's typically many frivolous relationships.
the people are afraid of their leaders, the leaders afraid of their followers.
that's where it's silly, and mildly confusing.

also the whole atheism indoctrination at schools,
more concerned with wasting kids time,
lowering their health, and spirit,
than teaching anything useful.

that's why one of the main things I support is neo-tribalism and seasteading,
as an alternative order where we can evolve socially,
and have a diversity of governance styles.



Are there Caucasians, Asians, and Negroids on other planets

of course


or are those groups of people Earth-only?

Arabs are the most Earthly genome,
being a mix of yellow and black people,
potentially others as well.

of course there is the Yeti or big-foot,
which is quite well adapted to this planet.



Are other planets with humans as ethnically diverse as Earth?

some are much more diverse,
in terms of the types of sentients they have.

I remember mind-sensing a planet,
which had sentient, plasma, gas, liquid, and solid based organisms,
all inter-operating and communicating through translators.

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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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I don't want proof through my own personal experience, I want proof that you are in fact a grey incarnate. Just 1 ship please, tell us where it will appear so that 'space' can be watched.

Also why did you post a picture of a balloon shaped as a 3 in another thread and ask if it was a UFO? Shouldn't someone of your knowledge and wisdom know what one looks like? Did you not work on them in your previous life as a 'flight attendant' ?

You just don't add up and as others have said before me, you need some serious help if you truly believe yourself or you really need to channell your talent elsewhere. Perhaps writing sci fi.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by iMawake
I don't want proof through my own personal experience,

then you'll never be sure.



I want proof that you are in fact a grey incarnate.

I'm a human, look at my profile pic.



Just 1 ship please, tell us where it will appear so that 'space' can be watched.

what ship?
You'd like to affiliate with some beings?
To force me to ask things of others?
Karmically binding myself.
Even thinking about it makes me feel wretched.

I left, so why would try to make me go back?

If you want to see stuff in the sky,
then go outside and look up.

where I live it's thick clouds,
chemtrails and light pollution,
means it's hard to see any stars.

get real, show me a single instance,
where people have actually been convinced,
that a flying object was proof of anything,
other than there is some photo/video,
with a blur or some such.



Also why did you post a picture of a balloon shaped as a 3 in another thread and ask if it was a UFO?

I had no telepathic contact in relation to it what so ever.
It was noticed by my partner.


Shouldn't someone of your knowledge and wisdom know what one looks like?

in my infinite wisdom, I know that things are continually advancing,
and that there is a large diversity of shapes in the sky.


Did you not work on them in your previous life as a 'flight attendant' ?

actually I worked in them.



you really need to channell your talent elsewhere.

I guess I could do more computer programming.


Perhaps writing sci fi.

tried, failed. writers block. it's trivial useless,
and doesn't make a cohesive contribution.

knowledge about other galaxies,
as well as how this one works,
is useful information.



posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
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There are infinite channels, and I guess this is a frequency thing. We all need to raise our frequency higher and have love for others, for the frequency changes occur daily in us, moment by moment we progress or regress consciousness, rather grow brighter or dimmer.

:-)



I have this strong feeling its going to be changing soon, the SHFT or earth changes, or crashed economies, whatever it is that is coming in the physical, there is an underlying real, more real than here, expansion or progression going on.

certainly, I'd have to agree with you.
it's the end of a cycle.

I think people seeing 11:11
may be a sign of that,
in binary all ones is the last digit of a cycle.

i.e.
1111 = 15
10000 = 16

interestingly enough,
my legal name adds up numerologically to 11,
as does my birthdate numerology,
i was also born on november 11

11/11/1987 with numerology 11, gives me 7 ones.
7 is the number of spikes on lady liberties crown.
with my name also 11 gives me 9 ones,
a sacred number for Thiaoobans (Jehovah).



Do you notice that, when you step outside, things are clearer and inspiration, connections come quick?

I notice the air-quality is different.
also when in forest-garden can commune with plants.

I added a planted aquarium indoors for air-quality and living plants.
Also now I'm converting to a more raw-vegan diet,
sprouting different kinds of grains,
eating living foods.
very energizing.
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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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I wonder if your right, but what if your just a pawn sent to send people in the wrong direction?

Also, the way your "Hive-Mind" works, it just seems wrong, not having urges to kill, urges to have sex, urges to mate, urges to do whatever primal instincts you desire seems quite boring.

Humans are not that simple, we are cowards, and back-stabbers, and we are very evil.
Your idea of us "evolving" into a 4th Dimension? Outrageous, you would call it that, but give us enough time to see how it works, and we would adapt to make our own 4th Dimension, not one thats tied to a hive mind, and certainly not one that lowers our primal urges and instincts.


You say that reptiles would want to eat us?
If they revealed themselves to us, and started eating us, you would bet we would at least get our hands on there technology, even if 3/4 of our race dies, we would be able to fight back, reverse engineer, adapt, overcome.
We would gladly sacrifice ourselves to kill many of them, for the greater good, if we are cornered.

Human's are very adaptable creatures.
We also have strong and powerful wills, even if that skill has went down over time, it is still there, and usually comes whenever we need it.

I'm starting to like the reptiles even better, I'm sure they have found a way around this, they obviously still have there urges for eating meat, and mating.
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posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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I'm sure you're for real, should I like stock up on candy. I like Pezz. Will there be Pezz when we're all dead? It will really suck if all my family and friends die, and like theres no Pezz.



posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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Lowki,
1. Did the Anunnaki create the Neanderthals?

2. Nibiru is a speceship, not a brown dwarf or planet?

3. Do you think the Magyars are, in any way, related to the Huns?

4. Where did the Magyars (Hungarians) really come from?

5. Is the Hungarian language the most "perfect" or "alien" Earth language? Somebody once joked that Hungarians are aliens in disguise.

Thank you so much.



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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have you had any problems going back in your body after astral projection? like unable to fit in ect..



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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do you like being a human? do you like what the human-race is doing to this earth?(i sure dont)is there ever gonna be a really big different change anytime soon? how can i become a person within the stars

sorry about all these questions but find out and asking questions is my THANG
BTW THX



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 09:42 PM
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Hello Lowki
I've only been a member on ATS a short time (a couple months?), but I've always noticed this thread floating around in the Grey Area forum, but never decided to give it a look until now. Would you mind answering a couple questions I have? I'll try and only pose ones that are actually of genuine importance and have been troubling me.

The first is about a personal experience of mine. I was young (possibly not that young, anywhere between 6-12) and stepped outside during a family party. While outside, a triangular craft with lights around its perimeter flew just above the (short) trees in my backyard. I remember the craft flying just over head, and the next thing I knew, It was much later in the night (people had left, there was a fire that was lit that was now out) and my mother opened the door I stepped out of, telling my she had been looking for me for a long time. I remember nothing else, but this memory has always disturbed me, though not in a distressful way. Maybe disturbed is the wrong word. In any case, this memory has been a bother to me, for a long time (while I was young) I was convinced I had been abducted, though after a while, it slipped into the back of my mind as just a crazy story. But the memory has been on my mind again, and I thought you would have some perspective on it. From my point of view now, it seams pretty unbelievable an abduction would occur during a large gathering with a very noticeable triangular craft flying about as low as the roof of my house. But it troubles me still. Do you have any relevant knowledge you could share?

Sorry that was so long, I'll try and be brief with these now.

What can you tell me about Organic Portals? Is it just another crazy David Icke Theory, or is there something to it? The concept disturbs me, and seams feasible, especially given the inconsistency of the existence of discrete souls existing on and reincarnating on earth, while the number of actual people (bodies) is ever increasing.

Can you say anything about mental health issues from a spiritual perspective? most importantly, exceptionally debilitating ones such as Schizophrenia and Down Syndrome, but also things like Anxiety Disorders and ADHD(especially what we call Inattentive Disorder, as I may seek treatment for it). These four are really the ones that I wish to learn about, but if you think there are important things to be learned by myself or others by sharing information on other disorders/a related topic, please, consider those questions asked.

You also have stated to have ties with the Orion group, whom I have read have harmful intentions for us earthlings. Can you comment on this? Perhaps Orion has a different definition of harmful? I suppose if their intentions were truly malevolent, you wouldn't say it in such words. I'll admit that you're mention of them is making wonder if I should even be asking you questions at all, but for some reason, I'm still going to. lol? In fact, upon considering this further, I'm going to stop here, as these are all the questions I am comfortable asking. I mean no offense by this, I am only trying to avoid receiving anything that may not be good for me, to put it one way.

This came out a little longer than I intended, I apologize for the lack of brevity. I would truly appreciate it if you could find the time to answer these questions

Thank You



posted on Jan, 26 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by Abe7Fig
The first is about a personal experience of mine. I was young (possibly not that young, anywhere between 6-12) and stepped outside during a family party. While outside, a triangular craft with lights around its perimeter flew just above the (short) trees in my backyard.
I remember the craft flying just over head, and the next thing I knew, It was much later in the night (people had left, there was a fire that was lit that was now out) and my mother opened the door I stepped out of, telling my she had been looking for me for a long time. I remember nothing else, but this memory has always disturbed me, though not in a distressful way. Maybe disturbed is the wrong word. In any case, this memory has been a bother to me, for a long time (while I was young) I was convinced I had been abducted, though after a while, it slipped into the back of my mind as just a crazy story. But the memory has been on my mind again, and I thought you would have some perspective on it. From my point of view now, it seams pretty unbelievable an abduction would occur during a large gathering with a very noticeable triangular craft flying about as low as the roof of my house. But it troubles me still. Do you have any relevant knowledge you could share?

well it's certainly possible to conduct such an abduction,
the usual route is to play a sound for inducing trance,
and then to give microwave auto-suggestions,
such as "calm, sleepy, sit, relax, forget".

then the candidate is picked out of the pile of bodies,
the craft leaves, with exit-programing of people,
they forget and get back to what they were doing.

"time seems to fly,
when you're having fun",
idioms can quell concerns over lost time.



Sorry that was so long, I'll try and be brief with these now.

What can you tell me about Organic Portals? Is it just another crazy David Icke Theory, or is there something to it? The concept disturbs me, and seams feasible, especially given the inconsistency of the existence of discrete souls existing on and reincarnating on earth, while the number of actual people (bodies) is ever increasing.

yes, if you have a spiritual portal,
it will allow spiritual beings to go through,
with physical portals, can have physical beings,
such as occurred at the montauk project.
the portal design is well documented in,
"The Montauk Project: Experiment in Time".

linear-time is an illusion,
as there are infinite possibilities.
So people see or connect to,
what they project to be the goal.
Holographically, at least some will be relevant,
to your own perceptions of the same mind-set or "time".

There is the ideal route, as phi spiral,
and branching fluctuations,
filling in the possibilities.
all be attempted.



Can you say anything about mental health issues from a spiritual perspective?

I'd love to.


most importantly, exceptionally debilitating ones such as Schizophrenia and

In rural or wilderness areas it is known as Shamanism.

Shamans are traditionally seen as a threat by Christian Tyranny.
If they refused to convert, they were deemed mentally unfit.

Similar is the agenda of the medieval Britian,
as anyone that didn't work for the state,
such as the homeless and disabled,
were considered a rogue or vagabond,
and then tortured in increments,
eventually leading to death,
similar to a mental asylum.

If they did manage to escape Britain.
That's one way of ending up on a pirate ship.




Down Syndrome,

a genetic disorder, possibly viral,
though acts on modified chromosomes,
possibly triggered by excess toxic contamination *shrugs*

as grays, we let faulty host-bodies die.
it seems cruel to force them to live.



but also things like Anxiety Disorders

a combination of caffeine, meat, violent media, and wage slavery,
frequently has that result it seems.

I recommend a veggie full diet,
passive media with uplifting messages,
as well as gardening or some other act of creation.
to bring one back into balance with nature.



and ADHD(especially what we call Inattentive Disorder, as I may seek treatment for it).

this is possibly a nutrition deficiency,
lacking choline for making acetylcholine,
the neuro-transmitter necessary for attention.

I suggest having choline-bitartrate (also good for lucid dreaming),
with pantheotic-acid (vitamin B5) to help transform the choline.



These four are really the ones that I wish to learn about, but if you think there are important things to be learned by myself or others by sharing information on other disorders/a related topic, please, consider those questions asked.

When I was in Triangulum m33,
people didn't get sick and died,
they got bored and died.

the soul needs to learn,
in order to stay with the body.
the body must have positive karma,
in order for it to be maintained alive.



You also have stated to have ties with the Orion group, whom I have read have harmful intentions for us earthlings. Can you comment on this?

the people that claim this are of a dualistic "us vs them" mindset.
while I could sink into another diatribe about them. *shrugs*

It's okay, love all that be,
as from none to all,
everything is child.

accept all possibilities,
be whole and complete.



Perhaps Orion has a different definition of harmful?

I'd rather say we have a different definition of love,
love is intersection or any kind of interaction,
be it sex or war, it's intersection or love.

Respect is keeping distance,
if they don't want to interfere,
they are being respectful, not loving.
Though they do interfere mentally,
so they are mentally loving.

we love you in all ways.
we are merely the station,
that you have tuned your body to.



I am only trying to avoid receiving anything that may not be good for me, to put it one way.

good by who's standards?
it's a perspective oriented thing.

or perhaps you mean ideal for you?
still, it's you that decides.



Thank You

You're welcome.
edit on 26/1/11 by lowki because: pirate ship

edit on 26/1/11 by lowki because: cures



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