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I was a Gray Alien in past life

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posted on Nov, 10 2010 @ 01:58 PM
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Most of the things you speak of we already know (well, I do at least).

But there's just one thing that I am not quite understanding yet...

Aside from my (possible) experiences with Greys in my childhood (and why not, throughout other years of my life), and as far as I understand, the Greys that I know of are Service-to-Self entities (not a bad thing), but you're showing a more Service-to-Others nature (not a bad thing either), which you also do in behalf of your Social Memory Complex.

So, I am left to assume that not the whole Grey race of extraterrestrials are Service-to-Self. Which means that different Social Memory Complexes have chosen different paths, correct?

You also mention (if I'm not mistaken) that those Greys visiting Earth are 3rd Density Greys only, and that 4th Density Greys (or above) do not make contact, at least not physically. Have I understood you well?

Just one more thing, as far as I understand, a Service-to-Other extraterrestrial would never abduct another being without that being's consent and free willing voluntary compliance. Service-to-Others cannot forcefully interfere in someone else's life due to the infringement of the Law of Free Will. It is Service-to-Self entities that do that.
Besides, abductees most often remember fear, discomfort and insecurity while being abducted and "experimented" on, something which is more akin to the Service-to-Self path.
So what have you to say on that?

I appreciate your time and your answers. So thank you.




posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 03:31 AM
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I am still waiting for a reply...



posted on Nov, 12 2010 @ 03:39 AM
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Hi .How are you? I want ask you abou your female. Do they have equil rights? I think you jave higer intellect than us. I THINK you don't have any stupid miths about woman how pleiadiens . IT'S TRUE? And could do you tell me about telekinezis



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 06:08 AM
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Originally posted by arthurium
lowki2 said: "looks like you might be well on your way to 4th density."

lowki2, can you explain further?
You talk often about then having physical bodies, and an agenda.
How can they be "real" and "of our own psyches" at the same time?


I'd rather say real, physical and affecting our psyches.


Originally posted by RKallisti
Most of the things you speak of we already know (well, I do at least).

But there's just one thing that I am not quite understanding yet...

Aside from my (possible) experiences with Greys in my childhood (and why not, throughout other years of my life), and as far as I understand, the Greys that I know of are Service-to-Self entities (not a bad thing), but you're showing a more Service-to-Others nature (not a bad thing either), which you also do in behalf of your Social Memory Complex.

lol, I'm not sure how you see that, I have a strong line of reptilian memories.
Though I've mind-sensed being called a "benevolent STS" by some star-beings.

Ra mentioned there are no STS-STO dichotomy after 6th density.
I mind-sense spirits telling me that I'm at 7th density.

I tend to talk to STO star beings somewhat more,
since the STS are frequently too busy shaking their legs with anticipation.
The grays are just peeking in to have a look with bewilderment.
People can only perceive themselves of other people,
and so the STO see my contributions,
and STS wonder how they are involved.


I'm incarnating right now in a third-density host-body.
Though it's strongly goal-oriented so like fourth-density.
My goal being technologically and spiritually enabled tribalism.

I walk around dressed like a pirate,
emphasizing freedom and generosity or Liberal values.
We many of us pirate in some fashion or another,
weather by copying music or humming a tune,
it's really silly how easy it has become.

When it used to be about territorial independence.
Having the power of protecting your body in your hands.
From the food you eat, to the place you sleep,
we with you can all be sovereign nations,
socially satiated through our cohabitating tribe.



So, I am left to assume that not the whole Grey race of extraterrestrials are Service-to-Self. Which means that different Social Memory Complexes have chosen different paths, correct?

*shrugs* well they are oriented towards improving their own experience,
I guess by goaling perfect-host-bodies you can say they benefit all creation.
Since anyone can incarnate into their host-body sacks,
assuming they have the appropriate quantum-binding, and energy-skill.
Even if you're not all that advanced, could get a low-level hybrid.

I guess some early stage 3rd-density hives could conceivably split of and become STO.

Actually in some way, they listen to their leadership so are serving the authorities.
In a similar fashion to how soldiers listen to authority.
Military loved to see some species like themselves.

Sure ants are kinda like soldiers, lol.
Ants also spread, reproduce and make new hives.
The NSA and CIA have been learning well from us.

However the public is lagging behind
with holographic tribalism
or "compartmentalization".

Each compartment builds it's own version of the whole.
So there are lots of noah's ark's,
eggs laid, hives started.

Actually personally, I support all tiers of evolution,
so we with you are biological beings,
realize there are wind, fire and solid creatures also.
A wide diversity of host-body opportunities.

I learned a lot my time on Venus, partially as a wind-storm,
my stay subjectively felt like 10,000 years,
though it could have been shorter,
since it was hot and fast,
lots of events occurred.

Like we were wind,
but we could use the image of a host-body,
it would just be very fast swirling with spiritual color,
perceivable by other wind-storms.
You may notice faces or host-bodies or images in clouds on earth,
which are much slower than on Venus, but they are also aware living beings.



You also mention (if I'm not mistaken) that those Greys visiting Earth are 3rd Density Greys only, and that 4th Density Greys (or above) do not make contact, at least not physically. Have I understood you well?


Actually they can make contact,
even 5th density Arcturians can do so,
simply have to lower vibration or host-body.



Just one more thing, as far as I understand, a Service-to-Other extraterrestrial would never abduct another being without that being's consent and free willing voluntary compliance. Service-to-Others cannot forcefully interfere in someone else's life due to the infringement of the Law of Free Will.

It's also cause you didn't ask to be abducted.
so they can't serve you, if you didn't ask to be served.


It is Service-to-Self entities that do that.
Besides, abductees most often remember fear, discomfort and insecurity while being abducted and "experimented" on, something which is more akin to the Service-to-Self path.
So what have you to say on that?

It's true that service-to-self are doing it for themselves.
It's also true that improving a genome is beneficial to creation.

Also note there are homo-sapien scientists,
that act in the same way towards laboratory animals,
as well as factory farmers who commit their own atrocities.

If people were pure in mind, thinking benevolent thoughts,
it's unlikely they would get noticed or used by anyone.
Since people typically perceive those of like vibration.


Originally posted by Senz20
OK, I have one quick question.

Is there a such thing as "surplus karma". like some kind excess karma that you can spend when in need?

sure, if you create more than you consume.




Because i was doing a project, and got hit in the eye with a paper plane. It should have taken out my eye. long story short; my eye is still intact.

I feel that my actions over the past few days are full of good karma, so did I spend some of my karma in order to keep my eye?


What I would ask, is perhaps there is some way you could improve,
in order to keep you host-body more safe on a regular basis.
If you had enough good karma,
the plane would fly by,and you'd hardly even notice,
except in the most beneficial of manners.



And, how did i know that i was going to get hit in the eye? It was just calling out to me that it was going to happen.

which eye was it?
you most likely mind-sensed it.





ive predicted many things before. what does this mean?

you're a precog.

I'm wondering if it hit you between the eyes,
since that could be related to the third-eye or psychic awareness.

In any case, the eye is a very sensitive area,
so it's best to keep it safe in your future.
be aware and use your eyes,
can avoid flying projectiles.

Sometimes people don't mind-listen enough,
or don't see enough with their mind,
so they have an incarnation,
where they lack that sense,
so have to make up for it by imagining.

at least to me that's a common explanation for disability.
for some unfortunate people it's a fear induced magic spell,
I remember some pirates were so afraid they'd lose something they did.
then they'd say "I knew it" with blood spewing out their severed arm,
it was just ridiculous, since they were unaware,
that they had the option of choosing otherwise.


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posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 03:22 PM
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*shrugs* well they are oriented towards improving their own experience, I guess by goaling perfect-host-bodies you can say they benefit all creation.


Never said it wasn't so.



Sure ants are kinda like soldiers, lol.
Ants also spread, reproduce and make new hives.


And that's why I find ants (and other insects) so amazing.



Actually personally, I support all tiers of evolution,
so we with you are biological beings,
realize there are wind, fire and solid creatures also.


I know. So do I support all tiers of evolution, as you call them.

Now, the "elemental" entities are 1st Density. So you tell me you have memories of that?

I know you could very well manifest yourself in "humanoid" form, the same way a fairy or forest sprite could be the manifestation of a tree, but still it would be 2nd Density (in this case).



Actually they can make contact,
even 5th density Arcturians can do so,
simply have to lower vibration or host-body.


I know they can. I just wanted to know which Grays (from what Densities) are interacting with Terra.

Can you tell me more on that?
And what can you tell me about the Dow?



It's also cause you didn't ask to be abducted.
so they can't serve you, if you didn't ask to be served.


We're perfectly clear on that. I was just pointing out that STS call themselves, thus infringing the Law of Free Will, while STO only respond to The Call (except in special cases, of course), thus maintaining the Law of Free Will.



It's true that service-to-self are doing it for themselves.
It's also true that improving a genome is beneficial to creation.

Also note there are homo-sapien scientists,
that act in the same way towards laboratory animals,
as well as factory farmers who commit their own atrocities.


I know. I'm not condemning neither the Greys nor the Sapiens. I'm not even from here. And I don't see "evil" in any act, I just see progress, advancement and evolution through both the STO and STS Paths (until 6th Density where they become reconceiled).
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edit on 13-11-2010 by RKallisti because: Question revision.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 01:05 PM
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Lowki,
Have you attained Christ Consciousness?

Thanks.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by RKallisti

I know. So do I support all tiers of evolution, as you call them.

Now, the "elemental" entities are 1st Density. So you tell me you have memories of that?

ya, sure I can remember being a rock on many occasions.

you can likely imagine being a rock also,
quite possibly it's a past-life rock,
though you can also be one-with a true rock via your 7th chakra.



I know you could very well manifest yourself in "humanoid" form, the same way a fairy or forest sprite could be the manifestation of a tree, but still it would be 2nd Density (in this case).

well a tree is second-density.



I know they can. I just wanted to know which Grays (from what Densities) are interacting with Terra.

all the available densities.
so anyone in an area with a density,
is involved in the area with their density.



Can you tell me more on that?

the gray's average or bellcurve max between chakra 4.2 and 4.3



And what can you tell me about the Dow?


www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

it's generally correct information.

In terms of the Andromedan Council


The Dow broke Cosmic Law as decreed by the Andromedan Council by interfering with a developing world.

yes we don't need to ask them for permission,
just as you wouldn't have to ask some socialist council.
understandably socialist councils tend to be slow,
and they have the ability to say no,
so why bother asking them?

Anyhow it's cosmically just fine,
just like you have the freedom to be here,
everyone else also has the freedom to be here.

"don't interfere with developing world"
that's just their way of making a monopoly on developing worlds,
they are like "no, you can't 'interefere' with them, and we define what 'interefere' means."

honestly with 6 star-being races (blacks, east-asians, polynesians, hebrews, arabs, nordics) on this planet, how can anyone imagine that there hasn't been "interference" the whole time...

it's just some silly political ploy with little to do with actual cosmic laws or karma.
they are just upset that they didn't get accepted by the ruling elite of this planet.
Since the ruling elite saw through their outward displays of benevolence,
and understood that deep down they are just socialist autocrats.

Indeed perhaps if the Federation had talked to the UN people that sit at desks,
they might have made enough of a lasting impression to get some foothold,
unfortunately they were stuck talking to the military,
which really saw the federation as their own extinction.

lol but what really gets me,
is that now the reptilians have been invited,
lol, that's just hilarious, cause they eat people. lol

Well it's okay, if you remember the dinosaurs,
this used to be a reptilian planet for a long time.
That means there certainly is precedent for them calling earth home.

Also we'd have to make the laws on murder more lax,
since you can't take away natural means of subsistence,
As it says in the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights


2. All peoples may, for their own ends, freely dispose of their natural wealth and resources without prejudice to any obligations arising out of international economic co-operation, based upon the principle of mutual benefit, and international law. In no case may a people be deprived of its own means of subsistence.


honestly the federation with their anti-evolution programs,
with the don't kill, don't defend your territory,
just leads to weaklings and softies.

Look at Earths over population,
that could all be solved,
with a some hungry reptilians,
to help cull the masses,
letting the smart and strong thrive.

Just as nature intended.





It's also cause you didn't ask to be abducted.
so they can't serve you, if you didn't ask to be served.


We're perfectly clear on that. I was just pointing out that STS call themselves, thus infringing the Law of Free Will, while STO only respond to The Call (except in special cases, of course), thus maintaining the Law of Free Will.

that's only half the law of free will.

one half is you wish for something, and you get it,
the other is someone wish for something and they get it.

So the grays are practicing free-will,
by getting the DNA or resources,
to sustain their species.



I just see progress, advancement and evolution through both the STO and STS Paths (until 6th Density where they become reconceiled).

sure, that's great :-) *hugs*


Originally posted by sphinx551
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Lowki,
Have you attained Christ Consciousness?

Thanks.


Well I can communicate telepathically with the Arcturians and Federation if that's what you mean.
I'm certain many people including Christians can also interact with them.

If you mean something else by Christ Consciousness,
then you'd have to be more specific :-).
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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 09:20 AM
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I am just curious. Perhaps I asked this before.
Did the Grey Aliens create or modify the East Asians? Some East Asians I see really look like Grey Aliens.

Thanks.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by sphinx551
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I am just curious. Perhaps I asked this before.
Did the Grey Aliens create or modify the East Asians? Some East Asians I see really look like Grey Aliens.

Thanks.

well the Chinese have a secret gray alien hybridization project underway.
also I mind-sensed that the chinese appreciated interacting with people shorter than themselves.

also in regards to my previous post,
a reptilian wanted me to mention that they can be quite civil.
and eat game meat while avoiding human carcasses.

When I asked if they would be willing to eat meat grown in vats,
they seemed somewhat skeptical of the idea,
though some were willing to compromise,
or at least entertain the notion.
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mind-sensing a reptilian scooping meat out of a meat-vat with their claws.
some reptilians in laboratory coats, marking down progress of users, nutritional content being gaged.

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posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 06:05 PM
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oh and the plaeideans wanted to rectify,
that they do support defending yourself.

so I asked why they requested the military to dismantle their nuclear arsenal.
they said they simply see nuclear power without sufficient shielding is bad for the environment.



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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 06:45 PM
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Hello lowki,
I just happened to open this thread today so I haven't read through it all.
I do find it quite fascinating to read as I have some family history that seems related to the greys and/or other alien groups. My mother had conscious recollection of meeting aliens when she was very young and living on a farm in northern Saskatchewan in the 1930s. She had a sister who could remember coming to earth from another planet and incarnating on earth as a human.

My own memory is different. I seem to have memory of only two past incarnations. The most recent one I was a human who was “taken” by the greys and lived amongst them for several months while waiting for my next incarnation. I remember meeting my parents on this spacecraft. I don't know where this spacecraft was located while I was staying with the aliens, however my father told me of a dream he had which suggested this spaceship (which was very large – maybe 800 foot diameter and more than 100 feet high), that it was in some sort of an underground cavern. In my father's dream, he was given a “flying saucer” because he had rescued an alien from drowning in a river. The flying saucer would respond to his telepathic command and come and pick him up, then take him someplace. In his dream, he went into a lake and then into a cavern with a hidden, underwater entrance. When the flying saucer got into the cavern it went inside a large spaceship. I don't know how the spaceship got into the cavern.

It might be just a dream, but I suspect it might somehow link up with my memory of meeting my father and mother when I was living with the “aliens”.

I still don't know why I went to live with the aliens but one thing I do remember is that I met someone on earth before this happened. I was asked to volunteer for the mission, even though it meant separation from my family. The “man” I met here on earth was actually an alien I believe.

What I recall from living with the aliens is that they didn't want to reveal their plans to earth at that time. This was the early 1950s, and their plans were for quite some time in the future.
I should say that I have no conscious memory of ever having met aliens in this life, although when I was very young I had a recurring dream where I was taken from my bedroom by “the man in the moon”. I do wonder about my dreams. Many of my dreams seem to take place on other planets which have highly advanced technologies where the skies are filled with very large and strange flying machines. I also remember one place which had very large complex buildings which had some sort of living exterior covered in plants and trees and waterfalls.

The only other incarnation I seem to remember, I was a falconer. I don't know if this was medieval Europe or Asia.

What I remember from the end of my last incarnation was I had stripped down to my underwear, and I had to lower myself into some sort of capsule which was filled with a liquid of some sort. I was afraid I would drown but was assured that all I would experience was the sensation of falling asleep – except when I woke up, I would be a baby. I would not have my memories, but it would still be me. All of this happened in the spaceship with the aliens. My parents were there and the other man from earth who was with me when we were captured.

I thought it interesting to read that you remember being in Antarctica the one time when you were taken as a human (from what I recall reading).

Of course, I have no way of proving any of this to anyone, so I am not asking anyone to believe it. I am just saying these are some of my recalls for what they are worth.



posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 08:08 PM
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Seems like Gray is the new Black.

What happened to the green men from the red planet?



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by imnessie
Seems like Gray is the new Black.


I'm not sure what you mean.

Typically the reptilian empire is black,
the mammalians are white,
and the hybrids are grey.

Or that's how we've been playing it,
though admittedly I remember Orion (hybrid) uniforms being black.
Black like the expansiveness of space.
Grays sometimes wear shiny materials,
which could say are grey.



What happened to the green men from the red planet?

The reptilians from mars? they are still there.
Andrew D Basiago mentions how their wildlife eats people.



posted on Dec, 6 2010 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by bluestreak53
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Hello lowki,
I just happened to open this thread today so I haven't read through it all.
I do find it quite fascinating to read as I have some family history that seems related to the greys and/or other alien groups. My mother had conscious recollection of meeting aliens when she was very young and living on a farm in northern Saskatchewan in the 1930s. She had a sister who could remember coming to earth from another planet and incarnating on earth as a human.

:-)



My own memory is different. I seem to have memory of only two past incarnations. The most recent one I was a human who was “taken” by the greys and lived amongst them for several months while waiting for my next incarnation. I remember meeting my parents on this spacecraft. I don't know where this spacecraft was located while I was staying with the aliens, however my father told me of a dream he had which suggested this spaceship (which was very large – maybe 800 foot diameter and more than 100 feet high), that it was in some sort of an underground cavern. In my father's dream, he was given a “flying saucer” because he had rescued an alien from drowning in a river. The flying saucer would respond to his telepathic command and come and pick him up, then take him someplace. In his dream, he went into a lake and then into a cavern with a hidden, underwater entrance. When the flying saucer got into the cavern it went inside a large spaceship. I don't know how the spaceship got into the cavern.


Oh yes, that's a very common type of entrance,
hiding entrances underwater is an effective deterrent,
to homo-sapien land-creatures which can't hold their breath very long.
Many of which are generally afraid or unaccustomed to water,
especially in some of the colder regions of the world.



It might be just a dream, but I suspect it might somehow link up with my memory of meeting my father and mother when I was living with the “aliens”.

I still don't know why I went to live with the aliens but one thing I do remember is that I met someone on earth before this happened. I was asked to volunteer for the mission, even though it meant separation from my family. The “man” I met here on earth was actually an alien I believe.


Yes, this mission is important,
remember and write down of it what you can comprehend,
it can expand over time, as you can get uplink, and download missing data.

Believe me, it's a relief to accomplish a mission,
it's always so sad, if someone dies, and they get met,
and then it's like "how about your mission?" ,
"oops, forgot", it's like blah, now gotta do it all over again.
Much better when you can brag about how well you succeeded.

Remember you chose the mission,
even if there was assistance.



What I recall from living with the aliens is that they didn't want to reveal their plans to earth at that time. This was the early 1950s, and their plans were for quite some time in the future.

people that live for long time, plan for long time in advance.
The general gist is usually the same, initiate, establish, evolve, expand.


I should say that I have no conscious memory of ever having met aliens in this life, although when I was very young I had a recurring dream where I was taken from my bedroom by “the man in the moon”. I do wonder about my dreams. Many of my dreams seem to take place on other planets which have highly advanced technologies where the skies are filled with very large and strange flying machines. I also remember one place which had very large complex buildings which had some sort of living exterior covered in plants and trees and waterfalls.

do you have pictures or write down your dreams?
I'd recommend it, for becoming more whole with you soul
Some dreams have past-life data, some future, some parallel,
once you have the puzzle pieces put together, can see a greater picture.



The only other incarnation I seem to remember, I was a falconer. I don't know if this was medieval Europe or Asia.

could have been both.



What I remember from the end of my last incarnation was I had stripped down to my underwear, and I had to lower myself into some sort of capsule which was filled with a liquid of some sort. I was afraid I would drown but was assured that all I would experience was the sensation of falling asleep – except when I woke up, I would be a baby. I would not have my memories, but it would still be me. All of this happened in the spaceship with the aliens. My parents were there and the other man from earth who was with me when we were captured.

Ya I remember a similar experience.
In mine the liquid was orange.
Admittedly I wasn't human at time of viewing.



I thought it interesting to read that you remember being in Antarctica the one time when you were taken as a human (from what I recall reading).

ya, well I was calling for dragon people with gold to come out from wherever they are.
And they did.



Of course, I have no way of proving any of this to anyone, so I am not asking anyone to believe it. I am just saying these are some of my recalls for what they are worth.

It's okay,
knowing these things,
helps with personal growth,
sharing helps with the worlds growth.
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posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 10:58 PM
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Lowki,
1. How many Grey Aliens do you estimate are currently on Earth?

2. Are Grey Aliens interested in human brains?

3. Can Grey Aliens read people's minds and know what people are thinking?

4. Are tall Greys and short Greys equal when it comes to psychic power?

5. Would you prefer to reincarnate as a tall Grey or a short Grey?

Thanks.
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posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 11:02 AM
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Ok, I have a question. To unify the people of Earth, a "social memory complex" must be established, like a "framework" or a "global mindset" - and this framework has complex underpinnings in psychological development, and genetic development. That said, its all a very "scientific" observation of reality. However, isn't there a tradeoff, perhaps by creating a "system" you are also creating a polarity, as those that choose not to obey the system, yet still have good intentions, will come under scrutiny and suffering as long as they choose not to join. Myself, as resisting the system, can see the "other side" - for example, when observing some of your very beautiful hybrids talking, when I tune my mind to thier "side" then it seems positive, and "good" - however, when I interpret what they say while connecting to thier very souls, to the underlying intent behind the system (that is, decoding it) - what they say is very damaging, very hurtful. Now, if I react "negativley" then I would appear aggressive to them, however, when I react positivley, basically, letting them harm me, then the harm from the system becomes exponential, and I feel like an outcast, as if I am being prevented from being myself, especially when it comes to family members. They all think that I just have to "join" however the system itself is holding me back from expressing my true positive light, and thus, the system both oppresses me, and offers me some kind of "freedom" at the same time. I can't help but to think it is a deception in some way, whether you guys realise it or not. The more I resist the system, the more attacks I receive, for example, I am familiar with your bioplasmic exchange techniques, that is, giving me a new "spiritual body" in my sleep, then I wake up "different" and "converted" - however, I have been fully lucid when these things were happening, they take some kind of "vacuum" and try to pull my soul from my body, holding down my hands and feet and trying to wriggle my soul from my body. This whole "plan" has caused me much pain, much isolation. My message is that you cannot escape polarity, it is a part of the universe, there is no "solution" - things have to be random, there must be unpredictability, when things are "good" for too long then there is stagnation, the mind becomes smaller, the imagination diminishes, the will starts to shrink. Creation and Destruction are a part of life and existance, and you must be able to strike a balance between the two.

I am angry because I feel pain.

Hey, perhaps you guys can sort of make an exception for me, remove me from the "system" so I can be free and be myself again... I feel like I am being grabbed from behind and being pulled in.


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posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 05:51 PM
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Greys cannot fathom anything beyond the second death, their minds are incredibly scientific, but they have virtually no imagination. That is why they are so obsessed with "materialising" the spirit, when in fact this world was created from the imagination of God. We are all in his mind, the idea of "physicality" is just the more structured parts of reality. If they truly knew the truth, they would not be so concerned with thier DNA, or about their species, they would die peacefully and wait for God to bring thier souls back to life in his eternal mind. However, they refuse to accept a God, that is, a conscious being that created everything, however, it is the last step that they must take in order to realise the truth.
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posted on Dec, 12 2010 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by SystemResistor
Ok, I have a question. To unify the people of Earth, a "social memory complex" must be established, like a "framework" or a "global mindset" - and this framework has complex underpinnings in psychological development, and genetic development.

:-)



That said, its all a very "scientific" observation of reality. However, isn't there a tradeoff, perhaps by creating a "system" you are also creating a polarity, as those that choose not to obey the system,


to fullfill third chakra be free do choose have options make wishes
can use a different system, it's up to you.




yet still have good intentions,

could have evil intentions also,
it's okay, natural selection,
karma resonance balances.



will come under scrutiny and suffering as long as they choose not to join.

like the mammalian orders that "love everybody". *shrugs*



Myself, as resisting the system, can see the "other side" - for example, when observing some of your very beautiful hybrids talking, when I tune my mind to thier "side" then it seems positive, and "good" - however, when I interpret what they say while connecting to thier very souls, to the underlying intent behind the system (that is, decoding it) - what they say is very damaging, very hurtful.

how about qualifying that with some words or images of what you were experiencing.
like what were they talking about that was "good" or inline with what you like.
and what was it that could be improved.



Now, if I react "negativley" then I would appear aggressive to them,

negative is acceptance.

perhaps you meant to say that if you act out of anger and frustration you seem aggressive.

you could act from patience and tranquility to seem polite and appropriate, blessings be upon you.



however, when I react positivley, basically, letting them harm me,

lol no, that's when you're being accepting or negative.

positive would be where you are giving or expressing.
for instance describing what your goal destination is.



as if I am being prevented from being myself, especially when it comes to family members.

After 12 or 13 can start your own home.


They all think that I just have to "join" however the system itself is holding me back from expressing my true positive light, and thus, the system both oppresses me,

the earth human system, with all the economic-slavery, ya.
natural organisms like biological-cells work for their own maintenance and reproduction, excreting or exporting only what can't be used (feces).

with multi-cellular organisms there can be specialization,
however if you don't want to join the "system" or banking super organism,
then have to use or create an alternative system.
like tribalism with price-calculated barter.



and offers me some kind of "freedom" at the same time. I can't help but to think it is a deception in some way, whether you guys realise it or not. The more I resist the system, the more attacks I receive,

of course, that's a basic law of physics,
if you hit, then you'll get hit back.
every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

so honestly think about it,
resistance is like making a cancer,
obviously the body wants to eject that,
and you only get to leave if the whole body dies,
it's easier simply to go out through the excrement.
be useless garbage to the system, and it'll eject you.



for example, I am familiar with your bioplasmic exchange techniques, that is, giving me a new "spiritual body" in my sleep, then I wake up "different" and "converted" - however, I have been fully lucid when these things were happening, they take some kind of "vacuum" and try to pull my soul from my body, holding down my hands and feet and trying to wriggle my soul from my body. This whole "plan" has caused me much pain, much isolation

I'm not sure how isolation plays a role in this.
since you stated you have some friends,
that seem to like to drain your energy.



My message is that you cannot escape polarity, it is a part of the universe, there is no "solution" - things have to be random, there must be unpredictability,

agreed, i call it shunso,
the food of the soul,
new experience,
shunso data.




when things are "good" for too long then there is stagnation,

I happen to like horses or stags.



the mind becomes smaller, the imagination diminishes, the will starts to shrink.

though I agree that applying the same rules on many, leads to monotony.

it's much better to allow for a diversity of rule-sets,
law could be based on natural precedent,
if a plant or animal can, so can you.



Creation and Destruction are a part of life and existance, and you must be able to strike a balance between the two.

reproduce, create we with your paradise,
defend it and expand it.

biological-cells destroy food to create it into useful parts.




I am angry because I feel pain.

angry is feeling of wanting speed.

pain might be from eating animal products,
factory animals are tortured and live lives of pain,
so that carries over to whoever eats them or their byproducts.



Hey, perhaps you guys can sort of make an exception for me, remove me from the "system" so I can be free and be myself again... I feel like I am being grabbed from behind and being pulled in.


you talk about it like there is some centralized hierarchy, lol.
when it's really quite distributed, where hives make their own decisions.

though I've already given you some suggestions,
such as focusing on what is it that you want to do with your life,
once you have some goals to focus your vibration on ,
can form alliances with beings of your resonance.
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posted on Dec, 13 2010 @ 07:58 PM
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Oh well, I look forward to the day that the Greys appear on television and describe in full detail what they have been doing and how they have been doing it. Although I know that it is not going to happen, and my feelings of "injustice" are just another form of "resistance". Anyway, I wish you all the best, and it seems like the hybrids are not pestering me as much anymore. They are quite innocent, they like to learn, its difficult I guess, as thier language programs might not always be able to express thier true feelings, they do inherit that grey "mischievousness" however.



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