reply to post by lowki
If you think that you can decide over life and death, you are trying to be like a God that you are not…
“What is your definition of God? I have never seen a non-mortal take the life of a mortal.”
But in any case mortals take the life of mortals. And the grays are mortal. Yet spirits can drive people into accidents, suicide, violent actions,
etc. So what is God to you?
“If they aren't in the game, they got no business here.
What game? Is it all a game to you?
“There was some soul competition for host-bodies, but I'm experienced at host-body capture.”
Here, as so often before, you avoid the issue. If you were a gray, are you now reincarnated in a human body, or did you take one over as a walk-in?
“Well I'm pretty sure I'm a walk in. “
What for? What happened to the soul that left the body – or had to leave it?
“Though actually there were some earlier memories…”
Sure, memories of life before take-over are still stored in the brain.
“I reawakened on jan 18 2007 when I was 19 or in second-year of university. “
So that was when the take-over occurred.
A walk-in take-over can occur by agreement with the soul leaving, or it can be forced, against the will of that soul. Makes me wonder how it was
The illusion is to believe that what you have is all there is.
‘I'm not really sure what to classify that as, perhaps small-mindedness, or ignorance. I myself am aware of a wide range of emotions...’
I was talking about all the emotions that the grays are said to have given up far back in the past, keeping only relatively few. If you really were a
gray, you will know what I mean. So where is then small-mindedness? I tend to classify it as lack of (or unwillingness for) understanding on your
“Where have you heard about these so called losses? Do you have any evidence of it?”
See a link above, and there are other sources I knew of before, but I don’t remember them now. Do you have evidence of the contrary?
“Grays, like any being, have all the chakra's, thereby can experience the full range of emotions.”
Yet some, at least one – if not more, of their chakras are dormant. See link above.
I smell a lack of moral here.
“Morals are ~, karma is definite. “
Any kind of manipulation of PEOPLE indicates a lack of moral.
“Really? So people that say ‘wait your turn’ in a line-up are not moral?”
I meant MANIPULATION! ‘Wait your turn’ is no manipulation… It seems that grays are well skilled in manipulating Earth humans.
“What does the word moral mean to you? Typically I thought it was a ‘proverb at the end of a fable’.
You mix up moral – better: morality – with morale and ‘sens morale’ (French). The latter tells the lesson of the message at the end of a
story. Morality is to be able to discern good from evil. What is good and what is evil for you?
You seem to have a computer-minded lack of understanding what love really is. Love also works between people who are very different! Again you diffuse
(avoid) the issue in your answer and at least in part contradict what you wrote before.
“Actually I made clear definitions, and made brighter the point.”
“Please provide evidence if you're going to make accusations.”
What did you feel was an accusation?
“To me, being calm and feeling balanced is happy. Satisfaction is second-density, where a desire is satisfied. ‘Having your own way’ is choice,
the emotion being of freedom.”
Again diffusing the issue.
“I'm clearly defining what words being used imply.”
Happiness can also be BRINGING calm and feeling balanced to others. But honestly and really, and not artificially.
Pills and injections can make you calm and feel balanced.
“Can make you feel numb, but balanced no. Balance requires inner peace. Pills are just an ‘illusion’ of balance, as you like to say, since it
seems like you're calm.”
My point was that the feeling of calm and being balanced can be artificially manipulated into people, and then it isn’t the true thing.
“Freedom of choice is an essential factor for happiness.”
“Actually the hunting instinct is where the love of killing comes from. Since once the prey or competitor has been killed, there is more food for
you and your family.”
That is GREED and RUTHLESSNESS! It is CRUELTY! I really begin to believe that you were a gray… since they seem to think that way.
“I'm a vegan, what are you?”
Basically vegetarian, only exceptionally eating meat (such as when invited or having guests expecting meat on the table)..
“Mortals must kill to be alive. We kill to eat, and we kill to sense.”
And that is cruel. We don’t need to kill to eat!
“Photons die to allow us to see. Aromatic chemicals are absorbed to allow us to smell. Sound waves are disrupted to allow us to hear.”
We are talking about people here - and animals, too.
“The killing is everywhere.”
True development is overcoming any instinct to kill.
“The commandments were written by confused entities. If you actually follow them precisely, you'd go extinct.”
NO! ‘Thou shalt not kill’ would lead to freedom, peace and happiness. If really practiced...
“Like you wouldn't be able to eat…”
We can eat the fruits that plants offer us.
“…or see anything…”
Photons are not people!
“…and couldn't learn from your neighbours accomplishments.”
Explain how we would have to kill to learn! From the karma we get from it?
‘LOVE never ever kills!’
“Agreed, love as derived from logical-AND, it only connects things together, binding them.”
Giving freedom, letting have freedom, is also love!
‘Love respects life, even that of competitors…’
“No, I'd have to disagree. Respect is from logical-OR. So when someone says ‘show some respect’. Uusually there is a polite bow, or distancing
You seem to misunderstand the word ‘respect’ here. It also means: ‘to show regard or consideration for: to respect someone's rights’, and
‘to refrain from intruding upon or interfering with: to respect a person's privacy’ – or freedom.
“Respect leads to freedom. Love leads to binding. They are different. Balance is key.“
Respect can be love and love can be respect, such as of someone’s freedom.
‘… and seeks no prey.’
“Well wouldn't it seek something to AND? To bind together.”
‘Love shares the food with others.’
“Maybe...... those that live communally tend to share. Such as people within the same family.”
Who is able to share even with his enemy knows what true love is. It is also sharing with the needy irrespectively of community and family!
‘I hope that this discussion opens the mind of some readers.’
“Ya, that's nice :-)”
I mean: open the eyes for how grays really are.
“Banks used to be the beach, or river-side.”
Well, in the case of money banks it has nothing to do with that! It has to do with the French word ‘banque’, that means “bench’. The bench or
counter where money business is taken care of. In Greek: ‘trapeza’ which actually means ‘table’. The table where the bank officer sits.
“Yep, so here I am. With the solution to all your problems.”
From your answer to another post:
‘Who brought down the abrahamic religions, and what was its real intention for humans. ii)Did another race interfere with religions?’
“They were written on earth by humans, by inspiration of various star being races, it ended up being a confused jumble of ideas.“
They were written by humans by MANIPULATION by certain extraterrestrials who were not very benevolent! See here: