The Pre-Columbian Exchange: Time to Rewrite the History Books, page 1
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Topic started on 22-4-2009 @ 07:29 PM by leira7
Here is an interesting paper that brings forth valid evidence of a pre-columbian exchange between the Americas and various other parts of the world (i.e. Polynesia, India, China, Egypt, Japan). These compelling finds have yet to be contested and are undeniable. Below are highlights from the paper.

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DNA and Blood Samples Taken

As early as the 1950s, it was noticed that the Diego blood factor, an East and Southeast Asian type, also occurred among American groups but was absent in the North. Other blood factors are showing comparable patterns. These include the Rhesus and Kell factors, plus transferrins, GM immunoglobins, and human lymphocyte antigens or HLAs. In addition, there are the glucose-6-phosphodehydrogenase deficiency and mitochondrial DNA. I cannot cover the details here, but suffice it to say that a variety of “foreign” genes, especially from Afro-Asiatic and southern Asian parts of the world, occur again in the Western Hemisphere, not randomly, but with definite concentrations, especially in Mesoamerica and in the Central to Southern Andean region. This seems impossible to assign to mere happenstance, and Mediterranean/ Middle Eastern and greater Southeast Asian/ Oceanian inputs appear to be the only believable explanation.


Cocaine and Tobacco found with Egyptian Mummies

Finally, there is the phenomenon of forensic pathologists’ identification, during the 1990s, of residues of nicotine and cocaine in ancient Egyptian mummies. Tobacco is, of course, an American and Southwest Pacific genus, and coca is native to the eastern slope of the Andes, none of these places being anywhere near Egypt. Conventional scholars, disbelieving the possibility of transoceanic transfers, have done mental contortions to try to dismiss this evidence. But, as I think I demonstrate in yet another article in the next Pre-Columbiana, none of the objections holds up very well (Jett 2001).


The Exchange of Cultivated Plants

The beauty of this kind of evidence is that cultivated plants are genetic entities and can be domesticated only where the appropriate wild ancestors occur; that is usually strictly limited geographically. Further, very few such plants can cross oceans or establish and maintain themselves without human help. Thus, along with the indications of human genetics described above, cultivated plants comprise the “smoking guns” of transoceanic evidence. Only a few prominent examples can be described here. One is the seedless South American sweet potato, discovered archaeologically in Polynesia shortly before the ABC Conference (Hather and Kirch 1991), and for which there is good nonarchaeological indication of presence in pre-Columbian Asia. Another is the amazing archaeological presence of the South American peanut in Neolithic China at about 2000 B.C., first reported in the 1960s and verified by Carl Johannessen (1998:22 25) with Wang in the 1990s. Readers of the NEARA Journal and Across before Columbus are aware of Johannessen’s work (1998) on the thousands of carvings of ears of maize on temples in India, especially of Karnataka in the south. As far as I am concerned, this ends any controversy as to that plant’s pre-Columbian presence in Asia. Since that time, Carl has also found temple sculptures that appear to show other American crop plants, including sunflowers and annonas (Johannessen with Wang 1998).


I decided to put all of this up because I frequently hear the same argument that there has been no substantial evidence to prove that a pre-columbian transaction actually occurred. Well hopefully this will close off that argument and open up new discussions and discourse as to what these findings actually mean for our current belief on the existing peoples of the Americas and how the Americas came to be discovered. For example, maybe Columbus knew exactly where he was going.

S&F if you concur.

Edit: Forgot to site paper, sorry



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reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 07:54 PM by leira7
reply to post by Le Colonel



I agree with that notion of globe traveler's. The one thing that doesn't seem to be clicking in my head is that some of this evidence in the aforementioned paper was found in the 80's and 90's, how come nobody said anything about it? Why is this topic so hush hush? I have spent hours trying to find any supporting evidence on a pre-columbian exchange and I must say that the literature is unreasonably slim.



reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 08:15 PM by Maxmars
reply to post by huckfinn



That would explain that mysterious ancient map of the western world ... I'll try to find the link, but you probably know what I'm talking about....


EDIT TO ADD:

The Vinland Map




Also: www.sciencedaily.com...

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reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 08:28 PM by huckfinn
reply to post by Maxmars



That's a fine map. I haven't seen it, thanks. Something like that would have been closely held and not shared when it was produced. If I knew of a secret place that noone on Earth knew of I'd certainly keep it a secret for as long as possible.


reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 08:31 PM by Maxmars
Originally posted by leira7
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Let's not forget the Piri Reis map




That's exactly the one I was originally thinking of...!

I knew I hadn't gotten the right one! Thank you!


reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 01:02 AM by leira7
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yes the zodiac is even more important than I imagined, especially after looking over this document on the piri reis map. Supposedly, the mapmaker wrote down that antartica was known to have "large snakes" there, but in actuality, it was referring to a constellation that you can only see in the south pole, there is no way that the map maker, Piri Reis could have known this living in the northern hemisphere.





To the left is an almost accurate map of Africa made in 1502 called the "Hamy-King Chart of 1502".


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reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 01:11 AM by leira7
reply to post by Blackmarketeer



I don't think I have heard of this, do you care to elaborate for us?


reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 06:35 AM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by leira7



Real good post! But to take it even farther I think it ludricis that anyone can believe that mankind just somehow became explorative around the time of Columbus and that was only Eurpeans. But conventional academia stands to have to re-evaluate itself if the long standing view of history is overturned and no one likes to have to do that. Especially when you're an older professor.


reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 07:29 AM by DangerDeath
reply to post by huckfinn



You are right. When they say "civilization" they mean "state" - which is the apparatus of oppression, discrimination, demutation, destruction of all those who cannot be tamed and enslaved. It is a lot more than just crime against humanity, it is the ultimate crime against the spirit and intelligence.


reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 09:00 AM by liveandlearn
reply to post by leira7



Iman Wilkins, a researcher of The Iliad and Odessy, believes the mythological stories in the Iliad are references to the constellations used as a cloaked guide for the tin route. I think it is accepted that the stars were used as a reference point in ancient times so it would make sense that there would be a reference to snakes as a way of letting seafarers know they were in the right place.
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