Project HEDON, and the mystery my father left me

hedon....

Hedonism
Hedonism is a school of philosophy which argues that pleasure has an ultimate importance and is the most important pursuit of humanity

no response from the OP yet.

can you spell goose chase.

G-O-O-S-E........

you should publish this into a book


you need to get out and socialise more , especially with somone that you can call a loved one

and try to move on,. this is freaky stuff, and seems to be on your mind a lot.

take it to a reserach university and give them copies of the material

go back and talk with them. compile information a little bit and dont stress over it

but you gotta distance this from your own life,

start a family. that was your dad, not you. you had no way , you know, control him.


thats out of your control. you are not responsible for that.

sounds like half life the game. its a good game

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sounds like you should share the junk.

from what i got out of this story the original poster would be in his 60's or 70's. and that makes him old.

old people should be smarter than to think the world is gonna believe a fairy tale.

this in turn leads me too believe old people are just crazy... and old.

Originally posted by Molan27
His fatal mistake was saying he posted the same story somewhere else.. and then claimed he "erased" it... It was Checkmate.

I bet he'll say "I don't care if you don't believe me" "They must have erased the whole post" bla...bla...bla....

Then you can say:"what was your user name there?" Then he'll disappear.

either way it's over. Finito. Done.

I would love for this guy just to admit it.. just for once.. "Just say I'm an asshole I was bored..I'm sorry"..

But he won't..

nah, his fatal mistake was taking us all for a bunch of knuckleheads

and i bet he doesn't even drive for 'meals on wheels!'

do your lies know no limit?

if you can drag yourself away from curing the blind or whatever ELSE it is you surely do, please feel free to refute any of the accusations made thus far. i'd suggest starting with the obviously flawed methodology of this experiment and your dad's strange involvement history (from subject, to control group, to experimenter) . . . but that's just a suggestion

This must be my 3rd post now, but I think some of you are being really rude.
Not saying I believe it because I do have my doubts and hoping for the evidences he says he will provide.

As i said before, don't be rash and just pull the trigger, if you don't believe him then leave your opinion to your self or say it in a understanding way that is not going to upset this guy.

Give the guy a chance, its only been like a day and a half since he posted it so wait and don't get all funny because the results YOU want are not coming though quickly.

I'm sorry and don't want to be rude just want to point this out before it turns in to online bullying, I am a big believer in fighting things like this so please give him a chance.

This is perosnaly to Hedon:
Dont take what somepeople on here say to heart if anything use it as fuel to push you on in proving them wrong.

My best wish's to all ATS members,

Torchwood

Originally posted by TORCHWOOD
Please if you believe someone to be lying then dont pull the trigger before thinking and have solid evidence of this.

I did think and had solid evidence. Hedon claims that he deleted the thread, which is impossible for a normal user, as evidenced in their forum FAQ.

So unless their forum makes a differentiation between "thread" and "post", and unless he is an admin there (doubtful), there is no way he could have done what he claims to have done.

Originally posted by TORCHWOOD
I know people can say what they want but if you are going to tell your opinion doing it in a more softer and polite fashion please

For the record, I thought I was being rather polite, I even apologized to him if I was incorrect in my assessment. When doing investigatory work, putting pressure on a suspect will often times cause them to become nervous and they tend to make more mistakes and will reveal the true nature of their crimes.

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Thank you for your reply, I don't want you to think I was targeting you, it was just how it sounded when i read it.
For the deleting of posts I am sure that if requested and if he is right and that it was getting quite nasty then i am sure it would have been removed by the website management.
I myself am a network and website manager and can relate to the reason he gave.

I just hope he is telling the truth as I don't know why but something seems strangely right about it.

Once again I'm sorry i never wanted you to feel upset or that I was targeting you.
I just think we should all see what he gives us as in evidences and then we can judge him.

Again thanks for replying, take care,

Torchwood

[edit on 24-4-2009 by TORCHWOOD]

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No apology necessary, friend.

Originally posted by TORCHWOOD
For the deleting of posts I am sure that if requested and if he is right and that it was getting quite nasty then i am sure it would have been removed by the website management.

I suppose this is a possibility as well, although if so, then he incorrectly described what happened on the forum, strange for someone with such an ability for description and a good memory.

Originally posted by Hedon
Anyhow, I erased it.

I am still awaiting registration confirmation from realityuncovered, so that I may further follow up on Hedon's claims.

Hedon, what name were you registered under on realityuncovered?

[edit on 4/24/2009 by ExquisitExamplE]

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When you find out I would be more then happy to hear what you find out, I too would like to know the truth as we all do.

Thanks again for replying and good luck in your searches, take care,

Torchwood

Yeah, I gotta say, the "Sharks in the water" posting is premature in this case. I can edit out the words from any of my posts up to a certain amount of time and I can PM a Mod to do the full-post deletion on any posts I point at. It can be done without too much hurrah.
Unlike possibly trashing a poster, which I seem to see is done with all the hurrah one can muster.

Your debunking is, by no means, concrete.

But, at this point, the OP is no more "solid" to compare. Intriguing. Interesting. Scary and believable, yes. But, I'll watch and read on and form my opinions when it's all out.

Come on back HEDON, get those scans up. There are those that will read all ya have to say before forming their conclusions. Humor them, not the post-attacks.

Cuhail

If I am right and i am most the time lol, then it is about 7am where he is , so he will be waking up to all these replies, he also stated that he has to wait to get the copies off his brother i feel even if he is tell the truth which i mostly do then we will have a longish wait anyway.

Torchwood

I might not know what I am talking about, I probably should read all the posts before I post something myself, but to me this sounds like some form of teleportation (at least in what I read near the end). I might not really know what I am talking about, but to me that is just what it sounds like.

or it could be...

I have no clue what I am talking about.

This is just me think outside the box.

A great many of the posters are questioning the OP, because of phrasing, or misuse of words. Perhaps his father used the word "stationed" and later "lived" interchangeably. I grew up in a town with a major AFB adjacent to it. Guess what? NCO's and Officers both used the terms interchangeably. It just depended on how long they had been on base.

And for those of you who think it is simple to track down information from the government, I asked for my father's service record from WWII. I sent them a copy of DD214, followed all the proper procedures, etc. Want to know what I got back?
Where he enlisted, where he went through basic, that fact that he rated "marksman" on the firing range(highest in his group), the date of discharge, and the fact that he recieved a good conduct medal. I wanted to know where he was stationed, what ships he served on, etc.

I don't know any more now than I did before. Dad told me a lot about his service, but my brother and I always had the feeling he was holding back.
He told us he was in the CB's, and he was on one of the ships that carried the marines to Iwo Jima. He was later stationed on Okinawaw. The navy didn't tell me that. My dad told my brother and me this while we worked in the feilds.

So give the OP the benefit of the doubt. I agree he should scan and post some confirming info, but if he doesn't, it doesn't mean he's lying.

Originally posted by cbianchi513
Welcome to ATS:

Perhaps this has significance?

en.wikipedia.org...(unit)#Measure

I would definitely re-check this link:

Felicific_calculus

... which is what I believe cbianchi513 was referring to:

(Hedon_(unit)#Measure)

It seems to me that this relates somehow?

Blessings, Cindy

reply to post by Hedon


A few of the projects you have posted were studies into interrogation methods using drugs, hypnosis, etc.. I would assume project hedon was the same and since you're dad was a neuro-scientist, that would mesh.

Regarding the last project and the application of electromagnetic waves. It sounds like it was, HYPOTHETICALLY, a study regarding either temporal or dimensional shifting/transitioning.

What would really interest me is if you could copy and post the actual journal.
That may make people less skeptical as they could start with the assumption that there is indeed an journal. Can you scan and post the actual pages?

I wonder if these experiments are true, could they be using them on us maybe with H.A.A.R.P. 's help?
It could explain the rise in road rage, suicides and post partum moms that kill, or even the school shootings.

We need to start putting all the info on the various subjects together. We are so taught both by the education system and the media to compartmentalize our lives that we fail to put the pieces together to see the big picture.

On another note, is anyone in the Country doing counter experiments in ways to keep them from having control of our minds?

Now that would interest me and If I had a backer would begin immediately.

Originally posted by kettlebellysmith

So give the OP the benefit of the doubt. I agree he should scan and post some confirming info, but if he doesn't, it doesn't mean he's lying.

Well the OP did say he/she had the journal. Personally, I think it would go a long way to simply scan and start posting journal entries.

The OP may have missed something when interpreting and paraphrasing that we may find.

I'm sure if the OP really does want to find the truth of something so important regarding what happened to his/her dad that affected the OP's ENTIRE LIFE, it's not too much to ask to hit the scan button.

I find the story interesting and there were REAL projects during the approximate time frames the OP is referring. The projects dealt with interrogation techniques using drugs which does seem to be a bit of a contradiction as to what the OP says.

I know in my last posts I was trying to defend Hedon but, it dont take a lot for you to reply ?

Come on you have us all on the edge of our seats! :-)


Torchwood

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I'm sure this post will get deleted because I'm not contributing anything to this thread. And I'm subject to immediate removal.

I'm sorry I'm taking a ludicrous amount of time to do this. I'm just posting to let everyone know that the scan of the journal page will be up soon. And I will scan more tomorrow.
Again, sorry for the wait, I'm sure it's raised some doubt. Even though this is extremely important to me, I have a lot of items on my agenda that come before this, unfortunately.