Originally posted by octotom
I personally believe that Tartarus is a black hole, not Marianna's Trench, which was suggested earlier. I believe this because Tartarus is also
described as a bottomless pit. Marianna's Trench is going to have a bottom somewhere. As far as we know, black hole's don't have a bottom. But,
this is one of those frivolous things that are just fun to speculate about.
I don't believe Tartarus is the Marianna's Trench either, the only reason I used it was for illustrative purposes, for that matter Satan could
literally be confined to the earth's core and survive there because he is unaffected by physical things, the point is we really don't know the
physical location of Tartarus.
As for the theory that hell separates us from God's love, that's wrong, Job is in Sheol right know, and he is not alive but in God' memory, God's
loves him and will bring him back at the appointed time.
Some of you read the posts AND STILL cling to old style beliefs of hell when THE BIBLE clearly shows it to be something different than what the
minsters teach, and standard church dogma.
As for hell on earth, incorrect, but the part about Satan having control is correct from Revelation 12 verse 7-12
The Vision of War in Heaven
7Then a war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels fought back. 8But it was not strong
enough, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9The huge dragon was hurled down. That ancient serpent, called the Devil and Satan,
the deceiver of the whole world, was hurled down to the earth, along with its angels.
10Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say,
“Now the salvation, the power,
the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Messiah have come.
For the one who accuses our brothers,
who accuses them day and night
in the presence of our God,
has been thrown out.
11 Our brothers conquered him by the blood of the lamb
and by the word of their testimony,
for they did not cling to their lives
even in the face of death.
12 So be glad, heavens, and those who live in them!
How terrible it is for the earth and the sea,
because the Devil has come down to you, filled with rage,
knowing that his time is short!”
Yes we are living in this time period where Satan has been removed from heaven from the war he lost, to this earth filled with rage, anger and
bitterness. He has more control over this earth right now than he did, when offered Jesus via temptation all the kingdoms of the world for an act of
Here is one reason why. while in heaven Satan was still recruiting angels to become demons, his focus was divided between the heavenly realm and the
earth. After the war he wasn't able to do that any more that's why verse 12 says those that live in heaven are glad, Satan and his demons are
Now the earth and it's people would have Satan's exclusive attention, and people wonder why things are so messed up on this earth.
Only one good point about it, the scripture say "his time is short". Short in relation to the many centuries of history that have already
Short from God's perspective would be approximately a century or 100 years, but of course it could be a little less or a little more he is not bound
to any specific number, you could easily add a couple of decades to that.