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Topic started on 21-4-2009 @ 03:04 PM by The time lord
Just like to hear some views on what people think of the current world we live in.
is the world getting more violent, are we more in fear than ever before? Its not like its World War 2 or anything, was that not worse than it is now? Or are now people afraid to leave their homes and go at night?

Are we just a young generation just starting to know the world as we understand it better. At a young age we don't really care that much or have much time since we were enjoying youthful times and getting ready to further our education. Now that people have passed that phase people have kids and have jobs and worry a lot more about their future in how the government and the world effects them individually.

Some words on the news I still don't understand, but the more I have aged the more I understand the world the worse it seems altogether.

So if there was a graph of violence and nuclear threats and wars in the world verses the time period of being alive do the two match or has the world always been bad and only when you grow up you see it for what it really is. Each generation will experience these things its part of knowing the world and through experience of not being niave we learn its not as good as we all lead to believe. So is it down to undertanding through ageing that the world seems to be getting worse or is it through real evidence that the world is starting to decline in every aspect in more ways than it's ever been? Is it an illusion we all have as we grow up, 100years ago it could have looked the same then so could 2000 years ago if someone was growing up.




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reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 11:23 PM by silent thunder
Throughout almost all of recorded history, "things" (so to speak) have been far worse for the average citizen than they are now (at least in the developed world). Even most members of the nobility led far harder lives than the average American, Japanese, Canada/ASus/NZ, or European citizen today.

However, we are curently heading "off peak" in a number of ways and things are GETTING worse than they were, say, 20 or 30 years ago for most people, in terms of meaningful crtiteria for happiness and well-being. So while we are still better off than those in most centuries past, we have recently ceaced the upward progress and are now regressing back towards a state of heightened misery, which is the historical norm. In statistics, this is known as "regression to the mean" and is very near an ironclad law for most measurable phenomena over long enough time periods.

Even in our period of relevant decline from the recent post-WW-II levels of comfort, security, health, and well-being, we can still marvel at the little ways in which improvements continue to offset at least parts of the misery. I hold high hopes for the incresising potential of virtuali-reality tech (I mean strap-the 'trodes to your frontal lobes and hallucinate away in 3D-style stuff, still several decades off) and pharmaceutical/neurological knowledge to alleviate some of the pain of the coming decline. The leaps and bounds underway in these fields can certainly be warped and put to dark as well as benevolent ends, and such developments certainly bear careful scritiny in the coming years. Yet they show two ways in which people can use advances in "inner space" to offset reduced opporunities in the "real world."


reply posted on 7-6-2009 @ 11:50 PM by silent thunder
It is strange that we have been getting more and more "comfortable" in a physical sense for some time now...house sizes, wastelines, and sofa lengths are all expanding...there is more food available for less, the range of entertrainment available is stupefying, and everything is "padded" and "puffy" and cozy and comfy...getting into the typical SUV is like entering some kind of plush fantasy-carrage all padded and thick and rich with the aroma of leather...its a good representative example for all the luxuries and juicy comforts that a handful of generations ago would only be available to royalty.

And yet there is a pervasive sense of "spiritual rot," (or "psychological malaise," perhaps, if the word "spiritual" is too offputting to the non-religious among us)...there is less security, seemingly, more worries, more fear, more stress, more people that need to be medicated simply to go through the motions of getting by day-to-day.

Have people literally and figuratively "sold their souls" for a superficial luxury? Leaving aside the psychospiritual aspects and implications of the question, the answer in raw material terms is that yes, they have, in two forms: 1) the assumption of ever more debt; and 2) the embracing of "casino capitalism" that offers the allure of "making it big" but at the same time removes the basic social securities enjoyed by earlier generations. Both 1 and 2 above have contributed to massive stress, insecurity, and anguish.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 09:08 AM by The time lord
The difference is that today we have weapons of mass destruction; many people could die all at once. Flu out breaks can now cover all areas of the world where it once took longer to do so. An earthquake in a populated area can kill many at once but that has been like that since the last 100years since medicine helped keep us alive and the populations have grown.

10% of a countries population dying in an earthquake 100 years ago is not the same as 10% of today’s population if it was to happen at the same spot.

Everything is quicker, we have rockets that can be fired many miles away we have communication that can follow people anywhere or take along, the world is a lot smaller as the saying goes and with it the dangers are closer.

Even if we in this generation understand with age that the world is not perfect as we age, the statistics must say something that the world we live in is even more susceptible to trouble and wars. Eventually man will want to find one form of unity and peace, but there are many systems of power who say they are right over another and that causes war and has always been the case. World War 2 was an example and we want to avoid another but at the same time we are in an era of fanatics who are growing in population who want the world their way at all costs. Death to them means martyrdom so there is no middle ground and the clash of civilisations is a repeat of history but with bigger weapons if in the wrong hands.


reply posted on 8-6-2009 @ 05:38 PM by visible_villain
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You asked :
Is the World Getting Worse or is it the Illusion of growing up and knowing more?

It's not just you. Lot's of people think the world's getting worse, and has been for a quite a long while -

Kali Yuga

Most interpretations of Hindu scriptures believe that earth is currently in Kali Yuga ... Hindus believe that human civilization degenerates spiritually throughout the Kali Yuga: it is mostly referred to as the Dark Age, mainly because people are the furthest possible from God. The description of Kali Yuga given below is an indication of its interpretive relevance in our current worldly existence.

Hinduism generally considers morality to be comparable to a bull known as Dharma. In Satya Yuga, the first stage of development, the bull had four legs, and in each age morality is reduced by a quarter. By the age of Kali, morality will be reduced to only a quarter of that of the golden age. Thus, the bull will only have one leg: morality will wait on men.

Kali Yuga is associated with the apocalypse demon Kali ... The "Kali" of Kali Yuga means "strife, discord, quarrel, or contention."

Source : Wikipedia

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