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REQUIRE COMMUNITY SERVICE "Service learning": "The purpose of labor service was partly practical--to... provide a source of cheap labor--but mainly ideological. It was a part of the cult of community current in the youth movement now manipulated by the Nazis for their own end. Students would be confronted with Real Life and, by being forced to mix with the less privileged sections of the community, would be reminded that they were all [national comrades] together." (440-441) Mandatory service: "Service in the Hitler Youth is honorary service to the German people. All young people are obliged from the age of 10 to their 19th birthday to serve in the Hitler youth." (420) Character Education and Cooperative Learning: "We cannot fight our way out of this deep crisis through intellectualism... The school for character... which is a practical test of true comradeship in work and living is irreplaceable.... the true, great, practical school is... in the labor camp, for here instruction and words cease and action begins." (441)
Originally posted by StellarX
Originally posted by jibeho
Organizations like ACORN will qualify for funding from this program.
Based on what? Will you list some of the religious indoctrination and sex education programs ( if you can call education about abstinence 'sex education'; oxy moron if you ask me) that do get federal funding or is this a 'bash the poor who want their voices heard' only session?
An amendment preventing organizations such as ACORN from receiving funds from this bill was killed in the Senate session on this bill. I guarantee that ACORN will end up staffing half of the positions detailed in this bill. ACORN is another issue in itself.
Acorn will keep getting killed in the Senate as they stand for progress and social upliftment as espoused by the majority of the poor ( not black or other 'colored' folk) in the US.
Progressive chance will be fought at every step so if this bill passes first time round that may very well be a indication that Obama's intent with it is probably not in the interest of the American public; good things just don't seem to happen so quickly or easily.
I think you misunderstood the portion of the bill regarding ACORN. There was an amendment in the bill that would have PREVENTED ACORN from receiving funds. That amendment was killed in Senate so therefore, they will now qualify for funding.
ACORN is corrupt and is full of left wing extremists. They are known to have a political agenda and they are clearly a partisan group. Despite what may be written in their charter. Groups like this are technically prohibited within the rules of this bill. Apparently, they are an exception to the rule. Hmmm...I wonder why. I expect to see ACORN members knocking on doors during next years census as well.
[edit on 22-4-2009 by jibeho]
Originally posted by dooper
That's right. Isn't this akin to how the Brown Shirts and later the Hitler Youth were formed and organized?
I have a better idea. How about ACORN, since they have a lot of time on their hands and no regular jobs, how about converting ACORN and all welfare recipients into his service corps?
The last whimpers of America?
So this is what we've finally come to?
Originally posted by Harassment101
By the time they start with the grade school kids,
and indoctrinate them for eight years, they will be ready to turn you in, if you speak out of line about the government.
The line has been crossed, and I think the war has been won, but we just were not the victors.
Oh I know it's too soon to give up, we should wait till the trains start picking people up.
Once they get the minds of the children, then it's too late.
Originally posted by Amagnon
So - lets get this straight .. you want to live in a totally communist state - like China or North Korea - or more probably like Stalins Russia?
Do you know how many people died in Stalins Russia?
He killed tens of millions - maybe a hundred million or more -
and you want to let America become exactly that?
If you don't fight this - then nothing can make you fight.
Portugal had something like it during Salazar dictature.. It mostly involved, as the NAZI one, the cult of the leader..
Originally posted by WeAreAWAKE
When I want my kids to learn something (other than math, science, etc...which I also do) I will teach them. And when I want them to do "work" to benefit the family or others...I give them allowance or some other reward...sometimes just some quality time with their Father.
Originally posted by jibeho
This is just the first step folks. Now Keep your eyes on HR 1444 which "studies" the feasibility of mandatory service programs. I don't anticipate any pomp when they sign this one into law because it was removed from the original version of the HR 1388. This will sneak through the back door while the nation is focused on the next distraction.
[edit on 21-4-2009 by jibeho]
Originally posted by ZindoDoone
I believe you took my post 100% backwards.
I said we learned about how are government is supposed to work in civics class. I did not say it was wrong. I said what this "NEW" program does is turn that idea on its ear!
I also mentinoned the draft. I did NOT say I agreed with it, I said its the only legal means to conscript American citizens.
And it is the only way, not the way this new bill should be used. It is conscription.
If you read my post without malice you might se that we agree. Believe me, I was not endorsing it in any manner!