Obama Will Sign GIVE ACT Into Law Today!, page 2

Originally posted by Jadette
reply to post by FlyersFan

I disagree. In fact, I find it hard to understand how teaching children to be involved with their community by actually having them work within the community, can be labeled slavery. When I was in high school, we worked with the park and reclaimation department for FFA. My girl scout group picked up trash. As a member of Job's Daughters we read to the elderly. Sure, I suppose on some level you can say it was 'voluntary' since I didn't have to belong to any of these groups. But if I were in grade school and once a week, for an hour, we worked within the community somehow, I cannot imagine I would feel any differently about it.

As for your second point; how is that not volunteering? While the literal definition can imply a measure of alturism, it isn't defining. Key word: Voluntary meaning willing. Incentives only make someone more willing.

Fascism is the most overused and misunderstood word of our times. I think it's gotten to the point where it doesn't even mean anything. I know you are using it to imply an Authoritarian government hand or using it as an insult because it's implicative of the use of the word 'nationalism' because the topic is about civil service, but I really don't think that civic duty and fascism go hand and hand.

Even the arguement in regard to the mandatory part; there are many parts of being a citizen of a country that require mandatory action. From getting a drivers license to filing for taxes, our lives are full of such things and it's part of the price for living in a society. One could even argue that as members of society, we have certain obligations to help each other. What's that called again? Oh right - civic duty.

Do not be decieved remember what obama said he was going to do was to implement a Civilian National Security Force that is as strong as our existing military. The Civilian National Security Force answers to him, obama and does not say anything about upholding The Constitution of the United States Of America.

Do you relize if obama is to have a Civilian National Security Force as strong as our U.S. military the CNSF would have to be trained with weapons.

Now we will be told it is just Civil Service helping your fellow man but folks I do not trust anything this administration says, we have to constantly watch our backs everytime legislation or a bill is ready to be voted on.

Will certain states block the new Civil Service program or go along with the program? Remember what I tell you when this Civilian Service program becomes implemented and becomes mandatory this is when there will be a lot of unhappy citizens. Especially if the retired people of this nation will have to serve so many hours of community service to recieve their Social Security checks and benefits. Folks we do not need a crystal ball to see into the future.

I believe this Civilian Service program will be a nightmare to our country's freedom. You ask what is wrong with helping your fellow man? Absolutely nothing but who is helping who with this Civilian Service program. I believe this will be obama's spy network on the American family and the endoctrination of our youth to what ever this program sees fit to do or teach to our youth. What percentage of minorities will be endoctrinated into this Civilian Service?

Why spend millions and millions of dollars on Civilian Service uniforms when civilian clothes will do? Remember this dress code will spill over into our school systems with uniforms being the norm to be worn in all schools in this country. I wish I was wrong but I know better. Many will think this Civilian Service Force is a good thing and I do mean Force.

[edit on 21-4-2009 by amari]