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reply posted on 21-4-2009 @ 12:45 AM by SheepleFlavored
reply to post by mysterybee



Mysterybee, I read something about that, I think it may have been in Discover magazine a few months ago. There may be something in what you're saying so I think it would be interesting if we could get any sort of data on autism rates in countries or cultures where marriages are/were arranged instead of allowed to arise out of natural attraction. I would think in the case of a culture dominated by arranged marriages based on factors not relating to biology, we might see other interesting cases of incompatible biochemistry's effects on pregnancy and childbearing besides the ones mentioned in the article. If autism is a product of this issue, we might see higher incidences of it as well. Of course in a lot of those cultures they have other serious problems that impact maternal health and child development.

[edit on 21-4-2009 by SheepleFlavored]


reply posted on 21-4-2009 @ 12:36 PM by Poon
Regarding vaccines and autism - there is simple no link, as a plethora of peer-reviewed papers have found ever since Wakefield published his report in 'The Lancet'.

A report that was subsequently shown to have been based on fraudulent data:

www.timesonline.co.uk...

Great news that a potential cause has been discovered, I'd advise caution however on how soon a remedy can be found - rheumatoid arthritis the best known of many autoimmune conditions, and there hasn't been much success in curing that so far.

A lot more study is needed into factors such as the length of time of exposure to the antibodies needed to produce autism.


reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 10:46 AM by WyrdeOne
reply to post by Byrd



For decades now doctors have been drawing more and more connections between the environment in which a mother conceives, carries, and delivers, and the health of the final product.

It's now common knowledge that a prenatal diet rich in fatty acids and leafy greens and so on can stimulate brain growth and boost IQ - it's even said that pre-conception, the diet of the parents plays a huge role in the health of their child when it finally is conceived.

I'm not saying the whole mess couldn't be genetic, but it seems more likely to me that something has changed dramatically in the lives of the parents over the last 50 or so years that has led to the spread of the condition.

I mean, genetics is a LONG game, millions of years. Environment is something that can change overnight. An environmental cause fits better with the circumstances surrounding the disease, I think.

I've heard it said many times that improved detection, or diagnosis, or a more compassionate society, are to blame for the increase in autism, in the sense that we no longer lock these people up. I don't think that's an adequate explanation for the numbers we're seeing, but I could be wrong.

Increased diagnosis is one thing, but there just weren't THAT many sanitariums and asylums built over the course of this country's evolution.

A lot of these people with Asperger's and Autism-spectrum disorders would have just been diagnosed as good old fashioned crazy, that's true, but has the world ever had this many 'crazy' people? I'm not sure that's enough to explain the spike.

Someone mentioned the Amish - this is the philosopher's stone of the whole question, I think. If you can figure out why certain communities simply do not have experience with autism or autism-spectrum disorders, you can map out the differences between their communities and the communities affected, and start to develop a plan of action. Pacific Islanders are another demographic, I believe, which remain relatively unfamiliar with autism. Eskimos are another.

Someone earlier in the thread mentioned that it could be because of genetic mixing, the result of intermingling of people from different parts of the globe. I'm not sure I buy that at all, because nothing I've seen indicates that mixed race children are at a higher risk.

The only demographic that displays a spike in frequency is boys - not from any one race or region - just boys (and most often firstborn if I'm not mistaken).

I've got another thread somewhere on ATS about the link between corn and hormone imbalance - could that be related? A hormone-link might explain why it affects boys 4 times more often than girls.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if years from now it's discovered that all the extra estrogen floating around in our food chain caused a whole mess of diseases...


reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 11:30 AM by nixie_nox
reply to post by Byrd




How many military vaccinated children versus civilian are there?

If autism runs 1:150 roughly, and you only know 200 military children, then your not gonna see that many. So I think we need to find some population numbers.

It would be interesting to see if there is a difference between military and civilian children, in addition to location.

I think some other differences between military and civilian need to be considered too.

I started a thread on autism but no one responded to it, but it seems autism rates do flux in areas. While I live in an affluent area, they are actually higher here 1:147. Why is that?
www.abovetopsecret.com...


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reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 11:57 AM by Wildbob77
reply to post by carole9999



I get a flu shot almost every year, and I never get the flu.
I don't think that there is a relationship between getting a flu shot and then catching the flu.


reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 11:37 PM by WyrdeOne
reply to post by spunch




Most Vaccines contain mercury and even FDA scientists were against the approval of the FDA to put mercury in fish!


Can you provide a list of the vaccines that contain mercury? I was under the impression that all mercury had been removed from vaccines some time ago.

I know the flu vaccine still contains thimerosal, but I believe that's where it ends...

Also, who's trying to put mercury in fish? That seems like an odd thing to do...
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