New research: Autism may be caused by immune response during pregnancy, page 3

reply to post by Dutty_Rag

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"Now I think any hint of bad behaviour in kids is labelled 'mild autism' or 'ADHD'..."
Yes, and the 'autism spectrum disorder' has been expanded to include that which is not anything close to 'autism' per se. What really must be watched for carefully is the sheer amount of extremely toxic 'medication' which will constantly recommended, suggested or forced. If you as a parent choose to go this way instead of looking for behavioral improvements which can be brought on by not only better food/nutrition, but in stopping anything with caffiene/corn syrup (vastly increases ANY problems), both you and your child will pay for your decision later in spades. I speak from 30 years of personal experience.

Any chance of this being associated with what's being discussed in this thread?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Somehow I think the two are linked and why we've seen such a rise in cases.

reply to post by DarkSecret

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"there are more and more cases of children who die from preventable diseases because their parents refused vaccinations."
Evidence in statistics please. Also, there is evidence to the contrary. The side effects from a vaccine like Gardasil are precisely why people should avoid vaccines. Also, I've noticed that I and others who do not receive a 'flu shot' every year simply don't catch it, but those who do receive one seem to get sick anyway. Perhaps a good place to start reading would be

www.vaclib.org...

and realize the the pharmaceutical cartel is simply about making an enormous profit, and the ends always justify the means with them.

When I was a child, the number of vaccines was around 10. Now they are trying to give my little girl 30 plus before she even turns one. The hell with that. That sad thing is, the doctors tell you to let them give your kid the vaccine or you need to find a new doctor. What happened America?

Here's an interesting read on mercury and vaccines.
www.naturalnews.com...

reply to post by NateNute

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"That sad thing is, the doctors tell you to let them give your kid the vaccine or you need to find a new doctor. What happened America?"
The reason so many people are looking into 'alternative' medicine is that there is extreme collusion with the AMA, FDA and Big Pharma. The idea is to create diseases and syndromes (by use of vaccines and by 'proclamation' of new 'disorders'), and then send out pharma reps (detailers) who do not have an understanding as to what they're promoting, lured by large paychecks, and specialize in psychological techniques to appeal to the physicians sense of scientific logic (scientism) without any substance. What are the 'medicines' they're selling? A lot of toxins (flouride is a primary component of many 'medications', and the damage of this toxin can be researched easily). When the patent runs out on these 'medications' (which for the most part have only an initial palliative (treating symptoms) effect, but create intended 'side effects' for which--there are more 'medications') another analog is created with a new patent. Since most of these analogs are variations of natural medicines, they are by definition ALL 'designer drugs'. Quite often they will trot out an isomer (reverse molecule) based 'medication' when it is feasible. It is by no accident that a basic requirement for detailers is aesthetic 'beauty'.

Nature is amazing. Yesterday, I was watching In the Womb: Dogs and I learned that, among other things, wolves and dogs can sometimes completely destroy the fetus (before a certain time in the pregnancy) under, I think, extreme stress. Antibodies attacking fetal brains in humans is not that out there. Like I said, nature is amazing.

reply to post by Byrd

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This is the kind of topic I like to discuss. Great find and a great hope to tackling a very destructive disease. I really hope something does come of this.

One point on the vaccines though, don't they kind of act in the same way as what is being described here? They tell the body to fight something. In many cases it is three or four different somethings at once. Maybe there is some truth to the vaccines 'also' having an affect on whether young children develop this disease. Maybe it is the lead in some or maybe it's a combination of everything that goes into the vaccines.

However, if they can pinpoint who is more likely to produce an autistic kid from the getgo then it is still a huge step in a positive direction.

reply to post by Dutty_Rag

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You have shown us that you have no idea how autism spectrum disorder works.

And I can't believe people starred your post. I am shocked at this baseless sweeping statement. And you used a Tom Cruise movie as your proof?

First off, it is called spectrum disorder for a reason. It has varying degrees. Not all children have it to the degree where they are in an institution.
Some kids have aspergers. They can function but can't handle social situations and confrontations.

these kids in school, who says they had autism? or add or adhd? No one knows, because conditions were not always understood.

Who is to say this is not a recently developed condtion? Where is your proof that it wasn't developed recently?

Who is to say that those kids who had problems in school were not harrassed and beaten to the point where they reverted into themselves so much that they ceased to react at all, or to anyone? Outstanding citizens? Most likely they became criminals, lived with their parents as recluses for the rest of their lives, or were institutionalized.


Who is to say that those people who retreated into a coma state were not mishandled autism patients.

And that is what happens when it is not studied and handled perfectly.


so are you proposing that any child who has problems should just be beaten and ridiculed into submission? Is that what you are saying??

reply to post by inthesticks

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Just like one person can survive an infection and another can't. Why one senior survives pneumonia and other other can't. It is based on will, the bodies' defenses, and other unknown factors.

More studies might conclude that the brain contains a reacting chemical. One may have it and the other not.

While twins are considered identical, they are not carbon copies, or clones. There are still genetic differences. That is why they can look different, have different interests and personalities.

I have met twins that are as different as night and day.So there are differences.

Are they could be fraternal.

Originally posted by carole9999
reply to post by DarkSecret

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Also, I've noticed that I and others who do not receive a 'flu shot' every year simply don't catch it, but those who do receive one seem to get sick anyway.

Here is the info on flu vaccines...again.

First off, most people think they get the flu when they dont' have it. While it IS common, not as common as people think.

If you can talk on the phone, paint your nails, or read email, you don't have the flu.

Anyone who has truely had it, will tell you, that you literally feel like your on deaths door.
Someone could point a gun at your head and you would not care. You can't get up, going to the bathroom is a painful and monumental effort. It is the five most miserable days of your life. And you would do anything to make it end.

So if that is not the fit of your illness, you don't have the flu.

Second, all types of flus go around. When you recieve a vaccination, you get the one for the strain that is prevalent that year. And it innoculates you for that strain for the rest of your life. Which is why they urge you to get it every year because eventually you are stocked up against most flues.

But it doesn't mean you can't get a strain that has already manifested before.

So when people say they got the vaccine but still got the flu, if it really was the flu, it doesn't mean they got, that years flu. probably one they ddint' get vaccinated against before.

And most likely people that get the flu shots have careers that put them in the position of catching the flu.



[edit on 20-4-2009 by nixie_nox]

Totally overlooked point: The pill.

We all know how pheromones play an important role in humans picking each other out as potential partners. Men are attracted to the chemicals ovulating women produce, and women in turn are attracted to men who give off a pheromone that is directly linked to their immune system.

Women are turned on by guys whose immune systems *compliment* their own. But the pill screws that all up.

Scientists have now found that women who are on the pill are no longer able to detect the complimentary immune system. They are suddenly attracted to men whose immune systems are similar to their own.

This not only can create fertility problems, but it can create general relationship problems, too. Simply put, the chemistry is all wrong!

Think about it - more and more women meeting and choosing their partners while on the pill. More and more fertility issues, and higher rates of autism. There could very well be a link.

www.guardian.co.uk... earch.medicaladvicefortravellers

I've lurked on ATS a long time but this topic finally got me to register

[edit on 20-4-2009 by mysterybee]

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