New research: Autism may be caused by immune response during pregnancy

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posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 12:16 PM
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** Brief overview of this interesting article: **

A variety of things (most notably vaccines) have been fingered as the "cause" of autism. But researchers using live mice studies have found a connection that seems more solid.

According to their findings, women whose blood they studied had antibodies AGAINST fetal brain tissue. This suggested that something about pregnancies might trigger a woman's immune system to an extent where it would see the baby's brain as something harmful and start developing antibodies to attack it. These antibodies do cross the blood/placenta barrier and end up in the growing fetus' body.

In the mice studies, pregnant mice injected with these antibodies from the women with autistic children gave birth to litters of pups who showed some of the various behavior disorders we associate with autism and that seem to be on the rise.

As with all science, this study will be reviewed and attempts will be made to replicate the findings. If the research pans out, a simple blood test could tell doctors if a pregnant woman was producing these antibodies and a simple treatment could be developed to prevent her immune system from attacking her baby's brain.

Here's a review of the paper : www.sciencecodex.com...




posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 12:40 PM
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I've seen reports on how Amish families don't have children who have Autism (unless they have adopted children with autism).

This with the fact that in most third world countries, there are no peanut allergies.

I think it's likely it's the non organic food we are eating, which is why I'm pretty eager to grow most, if not all, of my food, which is impossible but hey, at least I can try anyway.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by star in a jar
I've seen reports on how Amish families don't have children who have Autism (unless they have adopted children with autism).

This with the fact that in most third world countries, there are no peanut allergies.

I think it's likely it's the non organic food we are eating, which is why I'm pretty eager to grow most, if not all, of my food, which is impossible but hey, at least I can try anyway.


Never even thought of that. Good job. Got me thinking now.

good post



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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Great find Byrd


If they can prove that this is the trigger then they can find a way to treat this
Ideally before a woman decided to have a child and perhaps it could be part of routine screening at the OB's



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 01:03 PM
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If this research turns up positive results, it'll be a big finger to western medicine and agricultural practice.
In my family, we grow all of our own vegetables, and eat very little meat. The only intensively produced food we eat is the grains. Our cheese, milk etc comes from local producers. =very healthy family.
On the aspect of vaccines and western treatments, I've had no doubt that these chemicals interfere to an extent with the development of children, in utero or out. Allergies could be part of this, though that might also be to do with the way a child is raised - ie not being able to be exposed to the world out there and develop a better immunity through slight exposure.
So maybe a more natural pregnancy and childhood could make our children so much healthier, without having to rely on pumping our bodies full of meds?
I'll watch this space...



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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That is a great find!

Treatment should be easy enough, but I'm really curious as to the cause. What would cause the immune system of a pregnant woman to identify fetal brain tissue as an attacking pathogen?

Why would more women nowadays respond in this way?

I mean, it's got to be something environmental, right? Some change in diet or the presence of a toxin that wasn't ubiquitous in years past?

Food for thought...



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 01:37 PM
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I have autistic children, and if this research is correct, then maybe they can figure out a way to combat it after the fact for the children after they are born as well.

It's all well and good to prevent it from happening further, it's quite another when they figure out how to deal with the millions already affected.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 02:21 PM
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I'm sure there has always been autism - but for some reason, in the past 10 or so years it appears to be everywhere!

When I was at school - there were no 'autistic' kids - just naughty badly behaved kids who got beaten (metaphorically speaking) into shape and became good productive citizens as adults...

Now I think any hint of bad behaviour in kids is labelled 'mild autism' or 'ADHD'...

Maybe the reason so many studies tend to turn up results is because half of the people studied don't even have 'autism' as it would have been described maybe 20 or so years ago...

I don't think the increase is because of pesticides or crap in our air/food - more just the ridiculous apologist politically correct society we have built...

The Rain Man was autistic... little Johnny who can't sit still and screams a lot probably just needs daddy to take the belt to him and teach him how to behave and have respect...



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 02:55 PM
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There is much contradictory information on this topic - even though your article is a good find - I am not convinced that the evidence depicts the full story

I have kept a link indicating a court case where a link between vaccinations and autism was proved

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Video - In some cases autism only occurs after vaccination - and is not linked to fetal development

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posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by pureness
If this research turns up positive results, it'll be a big finger to western medicine and agricultural practice.
In my family, we grow all of our own vegetables, and eat very little meat. The only intensively produced food we eat is the grains. Our cheese, milk etc comes from local producers. =very healthy family.


You are wise to eat healthy, but where in that article does it say anything about diet being a part of the study? Did you read the article?

I'd suspect things like this possibility and the allergies have more to do with us being a melting pot and our genes mixing with people from all over the world.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 03:37 PM
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Sorry, I didn't make that bit clear.
I was responding to a post by star in a jar to do with how diet could also be a contributing factor into things, as a mother's diet can also affect foetal development.
My bad for the mix up



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by Dutty_Rag
needs daddy to take the belt to him and teach him how to behave and have respect...




I agree with you in principle, but take a belt to a child? I've seen that and it is child abuse used by people not intelligent or caring enough to learn to Parent properly. A powerful adult using a weapon to discipline a child is never correct.

Every time I see somebody do that to a child they end up with a 240 pound man who is not overweight in their face offering them a taste of my belt. I react the same to people who hit animals.

People who hit children don't have their Kid's respect. They have just terrified them to that point they avoid them until they are old enough to get the hell out of the house and away from the abuse.

Sorry, a pet gripe of mine. Can't stand seeing children abused by their own Parents.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555

People who hit children don't have their Kid's respect. They have just terrified them to that point they avoid them until they are old enough to get the hell out of the house and away from the abuse.

Sorry, a pet gripe of mine. Can't stand seeing children abused by their own Parents.


Well said. Also, those who are abused in childhood, may develop psychological problems and abuse others themselves.
But could you imagine a parent abusing a child with autism because they can't understand why their child acts the way he/she does?



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
I agree with you in principle, but take a belt to a child? I've seen that and it is child abuse used by people not intelligent or caring enough to learn to Parent properly. A powerful adult using a weapon to discipline a child is never correct.


Well I see your point and I suppose there are parents who take it too far. I was belted regularly when I did something really bad - and guess what? I didn't do it again because I knew what was coming to me.

I don't hold it against my dad and uncles who did it, in fact I almost thank them as I think it's part of what makes me the strong and moralistic person I am. Even when I falter and think about doing something that would be wrong, I think back and remember the belt.

You do have to be careful though these days so I see what you are saying. If teachers pick up that you are belting your kid then they can end up calling in child protection services etc. Can all get blown out of proportion. I know fathers who get round the bruising problem by for instance using a paddle - larger area - so doesn't really bruise the buttocks/legs/arms. So there are thankfully still ways to discipline your youngsters without the government interfering and stepping in.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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Another possible cause to consider would be the fact we are a melting pot. Genes from people from all over the world are mixing for the first time in history.

Just a thought.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 04:13 PM
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My experience was different. My Parents never laid a hand on me and yet they had my respect. If my Father said jump, I said how high. Not because I feared him, but because I trusted and repected him.

I've never laid a hand on my daughter and yet she is now in an Ivy League School on full scholarship and she always obeyed me.

I grew up next to a family who's Father used violence to punish them and still today they hate their Father. They minded him out of fear, not respect and love.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 04:18 PM
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Autism is rife in our family. Not to the extent of rainman but the lack of social skills is very strong. Interestingly enough it is more obvious in the boys than in the girls although having said that I can now recognise my mum as autistic. So called 'Madness' has gone back a few generations on her side of the family. I have 3 male cousins that are midly autistic. My nephew and son are also autistic. This to me says it is genetic and maybe the blood link could be part of that.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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Perhaps the reason that the mothers are producing these antibodies is from the vaccinations that she receives before or during the pregnancy. It is no secret that Autism has been on the rise coinciding with the large push for vaccines.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by SuperSecretSquirrel
Perhaps the reason that the mothers are producing these antibodies is from the vaccinations that she receives before or during the pregnancy. It is no secret that Autism has been on the rise coinciding with the large push for vaccines.


Lots of things have changed during the same time period. Society has evolved greatly over the last 150 years or so. It's good people are looking past the one popular idea to find the truth.

I can't help but wonder, would it truly be smarter to let millions, possibly billions die if we stop vaccinating?

Is there any proof the vaccines are the real cause or was that invented by attorneys to enrich themselves like they did with the Breast Implants?

Law Suits are probably more dangerous to our health and the validity of our medicine than anything else. How can we know what is true anymore?

As long as people can get rich making false claims, I'm going to stick with only information that comes from properly conducted, Peer reviewed studies.



posted on Apr, 19 2009 @ 04:41 PM
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That strikes me as a far more logical conclusion than any other. We are all victims of our ancestry and genes.




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