reply to post by rjmelter
As a student enrolled in the Criminal Justice program
I'm sorry to hear that your views on law enforcement are what passes as an education these days. You speak of Fascism in your post, your views seem
to be the product of a Fascist "re-education" program.
When I was educated in matters of "JUSTICE" It "STARTED" with,
("We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common
defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution
for the United States of America.")
People clinging to their "constitutional rights" are a threat to society,
It didn't say anything about clinging to ones rights as being detrimental to the general welfare of the nation. Actually I think that the
tone was more in the direction that the rights in the Constitution are essential to the Republic and it's survival in later years.
Legally cops are not allowed to profile people but profiling is somewhere around 85% effective and accurate.
That's because profiling leaves the door open for a racist police officer to do things the wrong way. Although I will concede that profiling "would
be" effective in situations such as looking for terrorist, or illegal aliens on our southern border. But if that were the case than we would even be
watching this video in the first place correct???
I see the argument and have thought about it as any logical person would, it's just that we as humans are imperfect and have to worry about an
imperfect police officer that will use the profiling in a racist way.
his combativeness and repetition of words shows that he was focused on one thing.
His rights under the US Constitution.
he rode up safe to that checkpoint and has done it numerous times this time he brought along a camera... why is that do you think? my intuition tells
me he was hiding something,
My intuition tells "me" that he may be a person that "actually" knows his rights under the US Constitution and he was sick and tired of
them being trampled upon. It couldn't be something as simple as that could it???
See the real issue is that you haven't seen people that aren't terrified of their police officers, he seems to be one that sees them for what they
are, regular people just like us. Not gods to be feared.
no the Government doesn't let this fly so they created loopholes and one of the loopholes was that the Officers had the right to check this mans car
because he was posing a threat.
Well there is the issue of, IF THE LAW IS IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO THE CONSTITUTION IT IS ILLEGAL.
That is after all the basic guideline that the Supreme Court goes by. And then you have the notion of Nullification.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized.
I don't know about you but I didn't see any warrant issued to search that mans property based upon probable cause. Did you??? And they weren't at a
border crossing which would make the search valid in anther set of circumstances.
See, you are not taking into account that this is happening well away from any border. Had this been at the border I'd say send the guy to jail, the
Border Patrol has every right to search his car, unfortunately this is not the case and when a LEO is wrong they are just as wrong as another person.
Even more so, they take an oath. Here is a law for you to remember since that is the field that you are going into.
TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth,
Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United
States, ... shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in
violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined
under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such
acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill,
shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
If he is whining and fussy to authoritative figures of the society he will be much more of a threat to the average member of society.
Man I don't think Stalin or Mao could have put it any better.
They caught him in a lie when the cops DID catch him later on, their alert dog which is highly trained and yes dogs can smell some amazing
distinctions... he alerted them to HIS CAR...
You're' not this naive.. I'll make this very clear, you said your self that police are a power mongering group. They are also very cliquish
by nature. So he messed with police and now he gets stopped again. I'll say it again, you're not this naive. So I'll be blunt, a dog can't be
compelled to tell you if he indeed gave an indication of illegal substances in the car or gave no notification. However, a police officer can "say"
that a dog indicated such things all he wants and that's the end all and be all. How does one repremand a dog for a false positive??? You don't, get
it? So please stop being cute.
It is a very small group and most of them have power control issues, a well educated cop poses less of a threat than a less educated 1... thats
statistically true and common sense wise true...
Actually it's been my observation that the older officers (you know the “less educated ones”) actually had balls and didn't feel the
need to slap people around. They were the jocks and the tough guys of their time. They knew that they were men. I've seen the older CPD take many
groups to task with little more than flying feet and fist, the occasional knight stick.
You're new breed of (bullied college boy yuppies and bull-dykes) are the ones that feel the power trip. They've never felt that sort of power and
get drunk on it, I've seen a riot nearly started due to the actions of on “woman” cop that wanted to treat a man as if he were a servile dog. And
then you have the nancy-boys that are scared. They don't know how to diffuse a situation without the threat of deadly force, and once deadly force
has been presented you (as the authority) can only escalate. Now you have to shoot a person. This is part of the reason why you had such an increase
in tasers when they were introduced. Scared officers that pull weapons first without any attempts to diffuse a situation. Then they are forced to