Originally posted by Xeven
I would like to know why Christians trust the Holy Bible? If you have read it, you must see that the God in the Old, is not the Same God portrayed by
Christ in the New.
I don't consider myself to be a christian, but I know Jesus is 100% telling the truth and the father does speak through him. I don't know Jesus,
but I do know the father and Jesus speaks what I learned. So I'll answer.
Also, most of you know that the Bible you call the "True Word of God" today is a book put together, changed and edited by many men, Kings, Popes and
who knows who else?
It is not the true word of god. Obviously whoever wrote the bible had to hear the true word of god in order to write it. But it does contain some
of the wisdom and understanding of the father.
Why do you trust these men? Why should I believe what they decided (as men) to be in our current Bible is the truth? Were these men inspired by God or
unacknowledged messengers of God (King James?)?
I don't, not at all. Those who accept are blind. I don't even consider half the NT to be valid. I reject Paul and his writings in general.
Where as Jesus repeats all that I learned from the father in a very deep way, Paul does everything I was told not to do(and Jesus says it as well).
I do believe in god I just no longer trust the Bible having grown wiser and learned truths of its origins so I am interested why you trust what your
told by Men (Preacher, Pastors, Parents etc...) to be the truth of what god is and what god wants of us?
Trust no man. That will lead you to the father. If you truly seek the father, you will find him early. I know from the father, not from
preachers and such(who should not even exist in the first place, false authorities).
You could substitute the religious books of nearly any religion and ask this question. Go ahead and describe your belief in those books as well,
rather than proclaim them as truth, because there origins are equally dubious.
Not so. This is best understandable in math. You know how to add. So what is the difference in repeating 1+1=2 and knowing how to add? That is
the difference in the bible. Those who accept what other men tell them do not understand, they do not know how to add. As Einstien said, any fool
can know, the point is to understand.
You're better off not accepting something, than to accept something you don't understand. But I'd say keep it around because one day you may
understand(from my experience).
When you say 1+1=2, then you understand what is really being said is an action, you add an apple to the apple you had, now you have 2 apples. There
is an understanding of action behind the 1+1=2. And where you apply that to the bible(and in life), is by looking at the actions(fruits) of what is
For example, if you look in the bible you see the pharisees. Rather than looking for someone calling themselves "pharisees", look at the actions
and fruits of the pharisees, and then you can truly identify one. They are still present in today's society, they just don't call themselves the
Only by looking at someones actions can you tell. And when you start to see people by their actions, rather than what they claim to be, then you
start to see the truth around you. The understandings and such will are not just about religion and things, it helps you "see" the world for what
it really is which helps you in life.
Also, the truth of it's origins doesn't matter at all. If you see the same stories in different cultures it's because the truth is universal, but
that truth can be expressed in many ways. Just like the math equation, the people, places and time are just the variables, it is the underlying
understanding that is the real truth, and that is universal just as knowing how to add and do math is. That is why Jesus speaks in parables, he is
showing you the variables are interchangeable to try and show the understanding. But you aren't going to prove that by looking at the symbols,
anymore than staring at the 1's and 2's will teach you how to add.