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[post by Shane[/url]
One of the problems with believing that Satan fell before the end of the seventh day of creation is that after the seventh day, God said that everything in creation was good--abundantly excellent, to be exact. This wouldn't be possible if Satan and the demons had fallen.
Originally posted by octotom
reply to post by Shane
One of the problems with believing that Satan fell before the end of the seventh day of creation is that after the seventh day,
This wouldn't be possible if Satan and the demons had fallen.
Originally posted by heliosprime
How many time has this argument been waged? How many times has science proven this 6000 year myth, in fact a myth?
Originally posted by Gawdzilla
So, did Adam and Eve have navels? If not, were they made in God's image and we're not? Or is the whole thing a fairy tale. I'll let you guess.
Did Adam have a belly-button? I believe we can say, “No - Adam didn't. Neither did Eve.”
Why? Because your belly-button (navel), or tummy-button as it's sometimes called, is a sign that you were once attached to your mother. You depended on that life-line—the umbilical cord—for your nourishment from her body as you developed inside her.
But our first parents, Adam and Eve, didn't develop that way. I believe that God would not have planted on them a false indication that they had developed in a mother's womb.
When God created Adam and Eve in mature form, the day they were created they might have appeared to be, say, 30 years old. But God wouldn't want or need to create the appearance of a false history, any more than the mature trees created by God would have had growth rings initially. Those are things which would develop in their offspring as a result of processes later on.
What's more, this would be a tremendous testimony to God's creativity. Ken Ham once put it this way: Lack of a belly-button on Adam and Eve would be one of the biggest tourist attractions in the pre-Flood world, as the grandchildren and the great-grandchildren would come up and say, “Why don't you have a belly-button?” And they could recount again and again, to generation after generation, how God had created them special by completed supernatural acts, and yet had designed them to multiply and fill the Earth in natural ways that are equally a part of God's continuing care for what He created.
“…the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground… And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.”
Originally posted by OldThinker
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
Maybe God created a belly button for them so they would look just the same as everybody else. Eve would have looked weird and less than perfect without one.
Originally posted by Locoman8
reply to post by Blue_Jay33
I never claimed he didn't have access to heaven. I claimed he was cast down to earth before the recreation took place. Did he use a serpent or did he become a serpent? That's a good question but nevertheless, he at least influenced Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. This is an argument that can't really be solved because it's not really defined in the bible. War in heaven, recreation, Job account is how I precieve the timeline.
Originally posted by heliosprime
The issue of the 6000 year old earth is a misreading of the story of adam. In fact mankind was created on the 6th day, then on the 8th day God created the garden of eden and "adam". The entire story of adam is an account of a specific "race" of mankind. Searching the actual meaning of the word "adam" often mistranslated as "first" is actually translated as "ruddy" complection.....errr blood in the face.......Then the bible traces the direct family connection from adam, to noah, to moses, then david, and finally to Jesus.......
here is a link....