Simple Question : what way is up?

reply to post by UmbraSumus


hehe

its great to look at in that way

its all relative really as we are the observer so every point starts from us

What way is up?

The opposite direction of whatever objects "bottom" (usually feet, or something connected to the earth) it is being referred to.

reply to post by symmetricAvenger


Very good question. F &

My answer: Depends on one's perspective and point of view.

Sometimes I stand on my head. If I did that in null-gravity I'd go with above my head.

BTW - I consider "objectivity" to be illusory.




[edit on 16-5-2009 by soficrow]

reply to post by symmetricAvenger



I don't feel the question really has any relevance to me as it seems to be completely perspective and currently beyond my scope of awareness. I feel logic is an endless spiral (golden ratio essentially).. that it would be hard to place a start or ending point to measure from, a place of origin. I feel measurements work on a conceptual point / placement. Mathematics work to measure concepts to me because I feel the real nature of things is currently unmeasurable by our logic. I look at it like fractals off of fractals branching off into every perceivable vantage point. 3D terms makes everything so simple but what if that itself was like a hologram projection of something.. dimensionless or even without a literal expression, in that the expression is relative to the observer..

bla bla bla..

this thread is:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

My answer to that pretty much my good man.

There needs to be more threads like yours. I feel we are in dire need as a society to step back and re-evaluate what has been indoctrined into us since we were born. Someone else's system in itself claiming some sort of authority of truth.. we call it logic, science, religion etc.. yet even in our science I was surprised to know that much of the things they taught me in school they told me was "the truth".. and even at that time, even in their own scientific structure they were beyond that and the school system had not caught up so to speak. Overall I feel it is important for our own sanity to follow our own path and remain open, always..even when things seem to final...allow more possiblities.

I can drone on.. anyways,

reply to post by CavemanDD


its about understanding who we are.. not what we are told to be..

no up no down, what is up and down other than a reference point from ones one mind?

you see i use this question to wake people up as to what is going on...

logic is only understanding not truth.. tho granted its real and can be used but it can also be used to manipulate..

as my question shows.. what way is up? do you think more questions are asked like mine ?

you betcha

look up MK ultra

I would say that "up" is above my head. If I am upside down, up will be towards the ground.

OR

Up is towards the sky.

Originally posted by symmetricAvenger

its about understanding who we are.. not what we are told to be..

no up no down, what is up and down other than a reference point from ones one mind?


look up MK ultra

Love those reference points, and to have my feet on the ground. Well, the illusion at least.

I have a question though. Given that who we are is relative, and depends on the context, then how can we be other than what the context allows us to be (what we are told to be)?

...Please take a shot.

Thanks, sofi

UP is any vector outward from the center of the greatest mass toward the least mass.

I agree with what has been said already, but what about a universal "up"?

If you are in space, is it possible to say there is an up to something that has no boundaries?

We know we are the right way up in a building as the ceiling is above us, therefore up is where the ceiling is. In space there is no ceiling, so is it impossible for there to be an up?

reply to post by soficrow


be yourself

understand who you are.. your life may be very different to mine but we are joined at the hip ; )

i am my brothers keeper

dont mean to get all biblical but i kinda like that saying,

humility and being who and understanding What you are helps

but remember this

No human is different for we are all linked

the link? well its the very question we ask ofc

I often think Einsteins theory of relativity was a double entendre he gave us the theory E=MC2 but the more I think about it everything is relative. clever!

[edit on 16-5-2009 by genius/idoit]

There is no way up or down.

It's just us thinking of it as up that makes it so.

The Universe isn't "constrained" in any way, so to speak.

Up is the direction in which price goes as stuff becomes more expensive, down is the direction price goes when we think stuff is cheap.

reply to post by slimpickens93


hehe

ok im sorry but that made me laugh

star for you!!! lol

Answer #2 -- UP: the opposite of asleep.

Up is the direction away from any given center!

Will that do?

Originally posted by GEORGETHEGREEK
Up is the direction away from any given center!

Will that do?

No truer words ever spoken...

You are definitely on to it...

reply to post by The Matrix Traveller


indeed and while ur alive u r the center, shared center

reply to post by symmetricAvenger


It only really serves to highlight how basic the human language is at explaining difficult concepts.

An even more difficult task than explaining which way is up would be trying to explain what a colour is to a blind person who has never had sight.

Just try it, try and explain what the colour Green looks like without using anything from your visual perception

One man's up is another man's down, relatively speaking.

As for us being all connected, that's easy.

We're all a part of this universe, the part which is concious and self aware, saying to itself "What am I ?"



[edit on 19-8-2009 by Riakennor]