Originally posted by CityIndian


You still don't get it.

You are part of the class that enslaved them, as a white person you are of the majority class.

Racism is when you feel you are superior to another race and discriminate against that race. When a white person discriminates agianst a black it's from what? Hate of their skin color or culture?
When a black calls you whitey it's because of the years of oppression from whites, a huge difference.

Your logic gives me a headache.

Anyway I don't get how genetics give anyone a right to say things with an offencive motive.

Originally posted by CityIndian
You still don't get it.

You are part of the class that enslaved them, as a white person you are of the majority class.

Racism is when you feel you are superior to another race and discriminate against that race. When a white person discriminates agianst a black it's from what? Hate of their skin color or culture?
When a black calls you whitey it's because of the years of oppression from whites, a huge difference.

Thanks, I KNOW that I am part of the race that did a lot of terrible things.
And yes, there is the type of racism that is based on disliking a skin colour or culture, and another that is based on years of oppression, abuse, etc.
I have no problem admitting that my race did some terrible, unspeakable things. And yes, it IS indeed a huge difference. None of this applies to what I am saying though.

I wasn't ultimately complaining about somebody calling me whitey. The groups that I was taught to be nice to my entire life feel fine about hanging out with my sister because she looks more like them but can shun me. That there is a double standard. It's ABSURD. In case you didn't notice. They're allowed to feel justified in treating people differently because of skin colour, because they were the oppressed group in the past?
What's next? Look how we were treated, therefore we have a right to cause physical harm? Or murder? Race specific hate crimes...
Then you become no better than the people that started the problem. You're starting on the same damned path...Congrats.....
Don't we want this sh*t to stop?

I'm not saying that somebody should not fight for equal rights and proper treatment, if a group is clearly still oppressing them. I'm not saying that a group is not justified to fear that these things may still be happening and look out for them, and try to change them. I am saying it's backwards that harmful racist activity is supported and justified in many cases because of double standards (And I have personally not experienced anything that reaches the level of 'harmful', I can take being judged for not having the right shade of skin, but I have seen much worse here, which I find concerning. )
Fighting for rights and proper treatment is not what I am calling racism here. In case that is what you're worried about.

Originally posted by masqua


Everybody has blood on their hands. Everyboby!!!

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[edit on 18-4-2009 by _Phoenix_]

Originally posted by CityIndian

Originally posted by phoebeflakes
It doesn't upset me if somebody calls me whitey. It upsets me that I was taught that I'm inherently racist for being white basically, and bombarded with all this stuff about how I need to treat a certain group better (even though I'd never once given a flying sh*t about anyone's own race) but despite this, many many people in that group remain highly, often absurdly racist, as though they were exempt from any of the principles taught...

You still don't get it.

You are part of the class that enslaved them, as a white person you are of the majority class.

Racism is when you feel you are superior to another race and discriminate against that race. When a white person discriminates agianst a black it's from what? Hate of their skin color or culture?
When a black calls you whitey it's because of the years of oppression from whites, a huge difference.

Really? Since when are the "whites" the majority race. Last time I checked even in the US population the "whites" are not even close to the majority anymore. Please do some research prior to stating facts that can be proven wrong.

Disregard. made mistake.

not enough characters not enough characters blah blah blah blah blah blah

[edit on 18-4-2009 by phoebeflakes]

Originally posted by LeaderOfProgress
At least there is no ethnic cleansing going on in the US.

That is hilarious....

They and us (UK) have more blood on our hands than most.
Don't need ethnic cleansing.

There would be so much blood..... you wouldn't even be able to distinguish the hands.

Originally posted by masqua

Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Buy now help promote world peace, remove that guilt we were born with.

Truly funny.

Cold water works best, though.

All I'm trying to say is that it's rediculous to be pointing fingers this way and that, recounting the horrors inflicted on each other and getting all worked up over things that happened centuries, if not millenia ago.

I agree

But if I find out anyone here is related to the Roman empire after what they did to my family! That will be an exception!