reply to post by masonwatcher
I just shot club soda out of my nose and it stung quite badly. I really don't appreciate that. But at the same time thanks, now everyone at work
thinks I'm that much creepier. I see stalkers also have the ability to steal one's sense of humor.
Anyway, your reply was more ridiculous than the first and the original post. But when in doubt blame everyone else, right? Sounds
The reason that I "protest too much" is mostly because of the fact that threads like this (in my opinion, and I'm sure more than a few others on
here) detract from whatever credibility ATS has.
Between this kind of thread and the people that turn every thread they touch into some religious jesus-is-coming-again-any-day-now thread, there is
more than enough to contend with for real topics to be taken seriously.
Although at the same time I suppose the same can be said about some of the topics I watch and participate in (where are Chadwickus and Zaphod58 to
back me up there). The thing is, there are so many absolutely ridiculous faults to the arguments of these people that it really becomes a joke to
anyone with an understanding of schizophrenia and related disorders.
This is where I'm going to get screwed up, but I'll try anyway.
Firstly, schizophrenia usually manifests around early adulthood, but it's not really limited to that age group. It can go undetected into the 30s and
probably further than that, though I'm not going to look for sources right now. That's not to say it can't come about at a later age, either.
Your argument that people just start experiencing these problems out of nowhere does not mean much, either. Consider how many risk factors most people
have that you encounter day to day. List of possible causes and risk factors.
Also, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying by any means that schizophrenia is the only possibility here. Let's see..... There's
Paranoid personality disorder
A person with delusional disorder can be quite functional and does
not tend to show any odd or bizarre behavior aside from these delusions. "Despite the encapsulation of the delusional system and the relative sparing
of the personality, the patient's way of life is likely to become more and more overwhelmed by the dominating effect of the abnormal
Those with paranoid personality disorder are
hypersensitive, are easily slighted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions to validate
their prejudicial ideas or biases. They tend to be guarded and suspicious and have quite constricted emotional lives. Their incapacity for meaningful
emotional involvement and the general pattern of isolated withdrawal often lend a quality of schizoid isolation to their life experience.
I could go on but I won't. I really feel that this topic is WAY overdone and has a simple answer that people who "suffer" from "organized group
stalking" don't want to hear.
No one wants to believe they have severe mental problems. So in the age we live in, what do they do? My money would be on them sitting down with their
good buddy Google and creating various search strings of words they relate to what they feel happening to them. Of course they're going to ignore the
blatantly obvious links to psychological issue sites because like I've heard so many times "if you know you're nuts, you're not really nuts."
They're afraid of what may happen if they use logic, so they cling to a story of something that makes no sense. Really, if someone or some group of
people is stalking you, they are doing so for a reason. Unless you ripped off a drug dealer or stumbled on some highly classified information, I think
you should know that you have a psych problem. Why waste time, money and effort on someone who is of no benefit to harass?
Honestly, I'd like to know how these people would feel about their "gang" of "stalkers" if they were put on Zyprexa, Geodon, Seroquel, Thorazine
or something of that nature. I'd be willing to bet they would realize how asinine their claims of dozens of people wasting time and money just to
ruin their life for no real reason really are.
Show me someone who has been on anti psychotics or maybe even has real proof of their claims and maybe I'll reconsider. Until then, I'm pretty sure
it's psychological. I actually had an acquaintance who thought he was a victim of this. He got psychiatric help and now laughs about how ridiculous
that 3 year span was.
Anyway, if you're still reading.... If you started this thread because you or someone you know has this problem, please get some help before you or
they hurt someone. Trust me, I know first hand how you can start get sucked into someone else's delusions after a while.
[edit on 4/20/09 by Magnivea]