Janeane Garofalo And Keith Olbermann Calls Tea Bag Protesters"Racists"

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posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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*sigh* yeah, it's my opinion. I'm just tired of seeing opinion hijacked on national media by brainless, talentless idiots who have nothing going for them but media attention. I've got more talent and integrity shoved up my nose than this piece of crap does in her whole tattooed body. Then again, people like me (see the CNN thread) are the ones who get their nuts roasted by the media.....




posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by ClintK
Oberman and Garofalo are right. Not every one of teabaggers but most of them are racists. The truth hurts, but there were no black faces in the crowd.
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thats funny because i saw many african americans in the crowd. now dont you feel like an idiot?



lets not forget, the real racists have and will always be, the dumbocrats. remember the civil rights movement? who tried to block it? THOSE people. who tried to secede from the union for lincoln freeing the slaves? THOSE same peoples fathers. funny how the party that sees itself as minority lovers, has always been the party of hate and intolerance.

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posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by xmotex
I think the teabag protectors are fairly clueless about economics and the Constitution, I think they're a purely partisan movement pretending to be a populist one, but I doubt that more than a small minority of them are particularly racist.

And as far as partisanship goes, do people really expect Keith Olberman to be any less partisan or hyperbolic than Beck, Hannity, etc.?

It's not like he even pretends to be anything other than their liberal equivalent.


Exactly. Somehow that crowd sees evidence of "liberal bias" in people like Oberman and say it applies to media as a whole. But not "conservative bias" in Limbaugh, Coulter, Liddy, etc. They're just "telling it like it really is." No bias there. Thank God for conservatives. They see things as they really are, so they need not consider the logic behind other viewpoints. They know these viewpoints can be summarily dismissed, because the people who have such viewpoints are so far below them on the intelligence scale it's almost funny. They know this. I feel for them. It must be hard being so incredibly intelligent in a world dumbed down by an alternate viewpoint.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Swatman

Originally posted by ClintK
Oberman and Garofalo are right. Not every one of teabaggers but most of them are racists. The truth hurts, but there were no black faces in the crowd.
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thats funny because i saw many african americans in the crowd. now dont you feel like an idiot?



MY GOSH I JUST DIDN'T KNOW!!!.. Because YOU say you saw lots of blacks -no, "african americans" there, it must be true. WOW!! You've really put me in my place. I really DO feel like idiot. At least compared to you.




lets not forget, the real racists have and will always be, the dumbocrats. remember the civil rights movement? who tried to block it? THOSE people. who tried to secede from the union for lincoln freeing the slaves? THOSE same peoples fathers. funny how the party that sees itself as minority lovers, has always been the party of hate and intolerance.

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WoW!! That's all I can say. WOW!! You called the democrats "dumbocrats." You are so clever!! You made accusations and went back to the 1860s, and you clearly demonstarted how democrats of today must be just like the 1860s. It's just astonishing to me how you really distilled all the B.S. into pure truth. Good thing you have such a grasp on reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 06:28 PM
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posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 07:21 PM
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According to Rassmussen Reports, Obama's popularity rating is dropping by 1 point per week. 36% strongly approve of the job that he is doing and 29% strongly disapprove. So, he has a +7 point spread. That's a huge drop from his high of +30 the day after the inauguration, and he hit his low of +2 on the 15th while the Tea Parties were going on.

The political hacks that continue to try and destroy any opposition would do well to note that there has been quite a backlash in public opinion against the President, Congress, both political parties, and the media. So, they would do themselves a favor if they would just shut up. The media can't do that though and so, IMO we are going to see the President's approval go into the red zone very shortly.

It will be interesting to watch what happens then.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by ClintK
Exactly. Somehow that crowd sees evidence of "liberal bias" in people like Oberman and say it applies to media as a whole. But not "conservative bias" in Limbaugh, Coulter, Liddy, etc. They're just "telling it like it really is." No bias there. Thank God for conservatives. They see things as they really are, so they need not consider the logic behind other viewpoints. They know these viewpoints can be summarily dismissed, because the people who have such viewpoints are so far below them on the intelligence scale it's almost funny. They know this. I feel for them. It must be hard being so incredibly intelligent in a world dumbed down by an alternate viewpoint.


The difference between Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Shawn Hannity, Ann Coulter, etc. and the liberal media is that they are commentators and not reporters.

I have no problem with someone who wants to comment on the news, as long as they clearly point out that they are making commentary. All of those that you mentioned have talk shows which clearly state that they are commentators, not reporters.

When I tune into the nightly news or pickup a newspaper, then I expect that the issues mentioned there to be covered without the interjection of the reporters opinions. This is Journalism 101 stuff, the news should give you the who, what, when, and where. Not the unique perspectives of the reporter.

The difference is plain to see and the bias of the media has become so obvious that shows like the Daily Show are a continual running satire on how biased the media is, and so far, the media has not picked up on the joke. That makes the Daily Show even funnier and makes the media look ever more ridiculous.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 08:01 PM
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This is a clear display of desperation on the left. They are not used to being demonstrated against. They are not used to seeing non-gay, non-minority, non abortion rights activists. They don't know how to react other than childish name calling. MSNBC has steered very far to the left hoping to capture ratings by being the voice of the left. Unfortunately for them, their ratings are tanking and now they don't know what to do.

I worked at MSNBC for 5 years from 98 - 2003. I was proud to be a part of that team. Chris Matthews actually voted for George Bush in 2000. They tried skewing their programing in 1999 and hired Phil Donahue but he tanked.

Now I only watch MSNBC when I want to get angry. Chris has lost his mind. Oberman had dragged the entire profession through the mud and tossed any modicum of non-biased reporting in the toilet. And that man-thing practices her Jon Stewart imitatation in front of the mirror for an hour every night before she goes on.

What I want to know is what is motivating this journey into yellow journalism? Is it ratings, is it hatred? Is it free tickets to the Easter egg roll on the lawn of the White House?



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 08:15 PM
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Did you actually go to any of the protests? Didn't think so. I went to 3 separate ones. Saw black people at all 3. Saw old people at all 3. Saw young people at all 3. Saw rich people, saw poor people. People that were unemployed. People that were there on their lunch breaks. I saw potheads, veterans, anti-war people. Obama's name came up surprisingly little. A few people railed that income tax was illegal and did not get any reaction from the crowd. 95% of the people that i talked to or heard were pissed that our elected reps just were not listening.

We had a great turn out in my hometown with close to 2000 people coming out. We also had massive support from almost everyone who drove by, many thousands more.

When congress gets voted out in 2010 almost unanimously, both dems and repubs. [*SNIP*]

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posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 08:26 PM
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I went to one of the Tea Parties and talked to quite a few people of all backgrounds. The MSM has got this thing all wrong and they would know that if they bothered to do what I did, and just show up and talk to people. Isn't that supposed to be the job of a reporter?

I am here in Atlanta and the Tea Party was held about half a mile from the CNN headquarters. Why couldn't they send a reporter down the street? It's not because they are affraid of Fox News, so what is it? It is simply that their ideology would not permit them to report on the Tea Parties in an objective way. No wonder their ratings are in the toilet.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Swatman

Originally posted by ClintK
Oberman and Garofalo are right. Not every one of teabaggers but most of them are racists. The truth hurts, but there were no black faces in the crowd.
[edit on 18-4-2009 by ClintK]




thats funny because i saw many african americans in the crowd. now dont you feel like an idiot?



lets not forget, the real racists have and will always be, the dumbocrats. remember the civil rights movement? who tried to block it? THOSE people. who tried to secede from the union for lincoln freeing the slaves? THOSE same peoples fathers. funny how the party that sees itself as minority lovers, has always been the party of hate and intolerance.

[edit on 18-4-2009 by Swatman]


YOU mean conservatives...

thats a good point, just like they are attempting to derail Same sex equality...
Thank goodness those conservative Dixiecrats who call the civil right protesters
COMMUNISTS, (N ) lovers, Unpatriotic Americans are no longer valid in the DEM party. In fact most of my relatives were the "hippy scum" who marched with MLK many occassions. My mother has a photograph next to MLK right before they let the dogs loose in one southern march.

It is interesting to see where the fathers sons went...



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by zarp3333
This is a clear display of desperation on the left. They are not used to being demonstrated against. They are not used to seeing non-gay, non-minority, non abortion rights activists. They don't know how to react other than childish name calling. MSNBC has steered very far to the left hoping to capture ratings by being the voice of the left. Unfortunately for them, their ratings are tanking and now they don't know what to do.

I worked at MSNBC for 5 years from 98 - 2003. I was proud to be a part of that team. Chris Matthews actually voted for George Bush in 2000. They tried skewing their programing in 1999 and hired Phil Donahue but he tanked.

Now I only watch MSNBC when I want to get angry. Chris has lost his mind. Oberman had dragged the entire profession through the mud and tossed any modicum of non-biased reporting in the toilet. And that man-thing practices her Jon Stewart imitatation in front of the mirror for an hour every night before she goes on.

What I want to know is what is motivating this journey into yellow journalism? Is it ratings, is it hatred? Is it free tickets to the Easter egg roll on the lawn of the White House?


Thanks for saying that, I'm a conservative and I used to watch Chris Matthews every day. I loved it, his show was great! Then something happened and he lost his objectivity and his show moved further and further to the left. I quit watching him about 2000 and I have not gone back.

It's too bad for them.

I also quit watching MSNBC about that time and one of the reasons was Phil Donahue. I never liked Donahue much, his politics are right there with Jane Fonda.

Now I see that Chris Matthews has thrills running up and down his legs and he says crazy things like, "Anyone who doesn't cry when Obama speaks is not an American." That's just crazy talk. Not just crazy but dangerous, because any politicianwho thinks that he is above scruitiny will abuse his power.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 09:00 PM
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The false dicotomy would seem to extend towards the media also .

Everything seems to be set up as.... them or us. With no consideration for the finer subtleties of individual opinion, which make up the components of an overall movement.

Their messages are shaped to steer the conversation into manageable areas.

If you can`t stifle dissent.........you steer it.


People have to expand the discussion , transcending petty party affiliations ..... its only dissipates the influence of the citizenry.

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posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 09:15 PM
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The people who were at the Tea Parties were from all parties, all backgrounds, all walks of life. I heard very little partisanship. One of the common themes that I did hear was that they don't like the incumbents of either party and most of the people there were saying that they will not vote for any incumbents of either party in 2010. I didn't hear anyone report on that theme.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 09:38 PM
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I just wanted to add..as I've been stating..that many of these protesters were there protesting against the federal reserve.

Go on you tube...and search end the fed protests. You will see many videos of protests that were done last year in various cities.

Many of these same people were out there on April 15th doing the same thing.

This is what I'm talking about. These people were just slurred and slandered for no good reason...what they are protesting is for the good of all of us.

Almost all of the media coverage was vile. Commentator after commentator bashing protesters or diluting/changing their message...and ALL networks did it one shape or another.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 10:14 PM
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Yes, I also thought that the MSM went overboard on their vitriolic response to the Tea Parties. Almost every story that I read had some reference to "teabagging" which is a sexual reference not fit for prime time and certainly beneth the media anchors who repeated this filth with a straight face.

I am wondering what the response of the public would be if the media made "dirty Sanchez" references to the border protests. Or if they made "Sancho" references when Obama met Hugo Chavez.

Is this what our media outlets have come to? If so, our press agencies are completely lost.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 10:23 PM
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This is the problem with MSNLGBT. They really don't have anything of substance to say and when people make a point they have to call names.

Once they realized they sound dumb, they try to bring up "points", such as was done with the Tea parties.

After they got caught with their pants down, tea bagging each other, they started with the line about how Conservatives ought to worry about how much the big bad corporations of there states are avoiding taxes.

While this is true, they didn't think of this themselves, George Soros and Move On.org had to bring this to their attention.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 10:54 PM
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Excelent points. I guess that the media just doesn't get it. The Tea Parties weren't really about paying too much in taxes, but were really about how the government is wasting our money.

If the government was spending money responsibly then I might get upset about tax cheats. The government is not spending the money responsibly though, it is wasting it.

If the government wants my money to fix the roads, fine, but if they want to flush it down the toilet, then any amount they want is too much. I guess that this is too subtle a point for the media and the government to grasp.



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by lunarminer
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Yes, I also thought that the MSM went overboard on their vitriolic response to the Tea Parties. Almost every story that I read had some reference to "teabagging" which is a sexual reference not fit for prime time and certainly beneth the media anchors who repeated this filth with a straight face.

I am wondering what the response of the public would be if the media made "dirty Sanchez" references to the border protests. Or if they made "Sancho" references when Obama met Hugo Chavez.

Is this what our media outlets have come to? If so, our press agencies are completely lost.


I think our press AGENCIES are completely lost...

From my POV I have a hard time with the protests because FOX has anointed themselves the official promoter. I also remember other things that FOX promoted so doggedly and I also remember when FOX bashed previous protesters using the same tactics as ascribed by the OP. I also cannot not help but remember the key support FOX gave the last president as he inflated the federal government, the executive branch and PATRIOT ACT FISA.... They served as the point man and created popular support for many of the "things" people are now protesting. The same things that I used to protest to a large degree...

I also have a problem with many of the same old GOP partisans who understand the political implications of this and only intend to re GOP America, not end the fed, prosecute corruption - the list goes on... Unfortunately I can see the writing on the wall, which is a change of drivers, which I cannot support... In that I cannot support a movement that is being used as a devise of MY enemy ideology. I can support the true sentiment and concerns and free speech, but mixing even adding a little bit of soil with a whole mess of caviar is something I won't eat.

Even on ATS - David and I have similar hope for the future of America - but the fact that he posts videos of popular people who have participated in the vilest of manipulation, disinformation and division makes me keep David at arms length, as similar as we might be. I often question if he understands that many are capitalizing
on his concerns, that he will likely get the next W as a result, NOT a NEW, CORRECTED AMERICA... His vocal intent is to transcend party in the aim of a better America - but I believe beyond a doubt that these are not the same goals of his popular media heros.
I believe he identifies with what he hears so much that he does not see the need in examining past behaviors because "WOW HE IS SAYING WHAT I AM THINKING"...
Establishing a connection, promoting a popular goal and common enemy is what all the best propaganda machines have done in the past.So what I see going on with FOX is formulaic... Just like FOX tugged at all the right strings to convince people that invading IRAQ was
, Patriot act, FISA, Gitmo... SAME crap - the revolution will be when people turn off their TV's... No real change can or will result of this, count on it, it will be a switch a roo...
On the other hand what Olberman is doing is vile so I cannot support it either.

( thanks David just using our interaction as an example to explain my position)



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 11:17 PM
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His vocal intent is to transcend party in the aim of a better America - but I believe beyond a doubt that these are not the same goals of his popular media heros.


In the past I have posted Glenn Beck videos...and i've strayed from that lately..except for the guy on his show who was railing against the federal reserve at one of the tea parties..which really had nothing to do with Glenn Beck himself.

I have noticed how GB and Fox refrain almost completely about the war going on. They never talk about Iraq, Afghanistan...because they support it. The most major turn off was when I heard him blast Ron Paul for his foreign policy...and then he declared we shouldn't leave Iraq for 25 years?

Is he freaking crazy? How can we get our budget under control by doing that? He keeps railing about spending...yet more war? That in itself is BS.

Whenever I post videos...it's usually to make a point about what I think...not to promote the person in the video.

I have watched some of your videos..including outfoxed and some of the other videos of Hannity bashing RP supporters...i've even posted one of those in the past. I do know what is going on.

I've watched Fox knowingly leave out segments of video...just as they did with the CNN reporter. They showed the guy, with the baby, who was getting interrupted...but yet they didn't show the guy before...who was trying to compare Obama to Hitler.

I do see these things. It's as easy as switching channels on the remote control. I know it's happening. The media is trying to tell people what to think and what to believe...I know that the messages many were trying to convey were denied.

This goes for all protesters...I'd be fully supportive of anti-war protesters as well...they protested in front of the white house recently...not much was made of that...although it wasn't nearly as big as the tea party protests.

It did happen though...and as far as I know..Fox didn't cover it...and if they did it was most likely biased.

Believe me... I see what is happening.

I'm telling you...if you haven't seen a picture of a child...no matter what race or religion the child is...and to see him injured or killed because of war...which is waged by politicians and the elite...then you will change the way you think.

I've posted this video a few times, a RP vid...and there is one image there really bothers me...go to 1:14.





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