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President Obama in historic handshake with Hugo Chavez of Venezuela

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posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:08 PM
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President Obama in historic handshake with Hugo Chavez of Venezuela


www.timesonline.co.uk

The Venezuelan leader's office said that he wanted things to change between their two nations. "I want to be your friend," Mr Chavez told his counterpart.

The move came as Mr Obama also announced he was seeking a "new beginning" with Cuba, and was willing to work with its government on issues ranging from human rights to migration and the economy.

Despite apparent hostility towards the US, Mr Chavez's public stance on Mr Obama varies frequently and he has also spoken of his openness to talks
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posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:08 PM
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Chavez also reportedly said Friday: "With this same hand I greeted Bush eight years ago. I want to be your friend."

AP

Well after he restored diplomatic and trade relations with Cuba, this was the next logical step in his South American tour.

Venezuela had been for the past 8 years something of a throwback to Castro-era Cuba, a Latin government constantly denouncing the US, claiming interference in their affairs and siding with America's "enemies" abroad.

I see this as a much needed foreign policy reversal from the Bush Administration.
Not only does Venezuela hold a prominent position on the Summit of the Americas and a lot of influence over other South American nations but America has a lot of current energy interests within the region, and having this pointless, immature relationship with Chavez only means the US has to further sell it's soul for Middle Eastern crude and further entrench itself into a volatile region, when there are potential and willing markets right next to it's backyard.

Chavez may have been an outspoken critic of Bush and American foreign policy during his tenure, but let's face it, who wasn't? And it's not like the criticism was undeserving after ridiculously childish calls for Chavez's assassination from certain circles: CNN Washington Post

With all do respect, Latin America is a far more crucial ally to mend relations with than the Middle East currently.
The enormous amount of trade, investment and ties to the region and the untold crises unfolding like the Drug War in much of Central America (particularly Mexico) and the ongoing flow of illegal goods into the US really deserves far more attention than it currently gets from US foreign policy.

www.timesonline.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 17/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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IT's good to see them getting along so well. Being that Chavez is shorter than Obama,one would think that Obama would have bowed to Chavez just as Obama bowed to the Saudi King. OR maybe size really doesn't matter to Obama after all.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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Regardless of how you view the Obama administration, I believe that this can only be characterized as progress. Next step, invite Ayatollah Ali Khamenei over for a beer... Wait....



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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When are going to people stop whining about the "bow". The only thing Bush didn't do was throw some tongue into one of the kisses he gave the fool but yet there wasn't as much of an uproar about that. It was a bow, so what, it's not like he got down on his knees and worshipping him like he was a god. I saw it as a gesture of respect. He's obviously someone who bows too low, lot of people do. I have practiced martial arts for years, and fellow students in my school have a tendency to bow to low and i've seen this in tournments and seminars around the world where people would bow so low they almost bang their head on the floor. Get over it already.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:37 PM
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OR maybe size really doesn't matter to Obama after all.


Yeah or maybe Obama is just far more observant of diplomatic and cultural customs than that troglodyte before him ever was?

Bowing is a simply a sign of respect in traditional Bedouin culture. It's no different from how the Japanese bow before they greet each other.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:38 PM
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Makes sense the 2 would get along well. They were cut from the same cloth.

CHAVEZ CALLS ON OBAMA TO FOLLOW PATH OF SOCIALISM


Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Friday called upon US President Barack Obama to follow the path to socialism, which he termed as the "only" way out of the global recession. "Come with us, align yourself, come with us on the road to socialism. This is the only path. Imagine a socialist revolution in the United States," Chavez told a group of workers in the southern Venezuelan state of Bolivar.


I think Chavez is wanting to tutor Obama on overthrowing the Constitution, like he's doing in Venezuela, to become a 'lifetime President', aka a Dictator.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:39 PM
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But being a conspiracy site, one has to question why the sudden interest in Latin America?

Could the Russian tour last year have caused more fear in Washington than they are willing to admit?



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:40 PM
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Next step, invite Ayatollah Ali Khamenei over for a beer... Wait....


And having open communications with Iran is a bad thing, why exactly?

Because they're part of the "Axis of Evil"?
*snip*

Yeah let's just block out anyone and everyone whose opinions we may disagree with and shut ourselves into a nice little bubble where we can only see the rest of the world through a narrow, warped perspective that everyone who disagrees with us must be plotting against us.

[edit on 17/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

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posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:42 PM
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Um... the joke was more about the beer than inviting Iran over for talks. Muslims don't drink beer... Get it? Bah, never mind.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 08:53 PM
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Makes sense the 2 would get along well. They were cut from the same cloth.


For crying out loud...
He shook his hand. You do realise that?

That's what heads of state do when they meet each other. They shake hands.

No need to incite the Third Red Scare now...



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
But being a conspiracy site, one has to question why the sudden interest in Latin America?

Could the Russian tour last year have caused more fear in Washington than they are willing to admit?


It is not a sudden interest in Latin America. It is Mr. Obama doing as he told us he would. Instead of holding eternal resentment for foreign nations who refuse to do our bidding we befriend them and talk to them. Our country is not some guiltless superman of a nation. We probably have as many sins in our past as any nation.

Why should we continue to hate other countries based on what long dead ancestors started? Why pretend we are somehow a superclass of humans and belittle and ignore those who currently have a different world view?:

It is proved beyond doubt that Bush type diplomacy has failed America every single time in our history.

If they do us wrong after we become friends then what happens then happens then. For now how bout we just try the carrot instead of the stick eh?

[edit on 17-4-2009 by Xeven]



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 09:14 PM
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Chavez is a thug and showing him any sort of respect is a mistake.

I guess Obama has no choice but to act friendly to Chavez because since Obama does not want America to be energy dependent by drilling and producing our own oil, he has to suck up to Chavez for their oil. Pathetic!


[edit on 4/17/2009 by WhatTheory]



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 09:18 PM
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ahhhh yes on the agenda of the NWO/Illuminati was

WWI
WWII
WWIII
Take Out Chavez of Venezuela

could this be the beginning of that plan? also Cuba is one of 5 nations that the Rothschilds don't have a central bank in, or to the best of me knowledge correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm almost sure i'm correct

Iran; North Korea; Sudan;Cuba; and Libya

[edit on 17-4-2009 by Darth_Prime]



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory
Chavez is a thug and showing him any sort of respect is a mistake.

I guess Obama has no choice but to act friendly to Chavez because since Obama does not want America to be energy dependent by drilling and producing our own oil, he has to suck up to Chavez for their oil. Pathetic!


[edit on 4/17/2009 by WhatTheory]


Umm heres an idea you want lower taxes? Then make friends instead of new enemies to bomb that makes some sense doesnt it? Im glad Obama is out trying to make friends instead of new enemies. These are untapped markets that we can sell our crap to so we can get out of this massive debt we are in. Last I checked we were damn close to default and making new enemies is not going to help this. Im not impressed with to much with Obama but I do like this.

[edit on 17-4-2009 by mybigunit]



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
reply to post by daddyroo45
 



OR maybe size really doesn't matter to Obama after all.


Yeah or maybe Obama is just far more observant of diplomatic and cultural customs than that troglodyte before him ever was?

Bowing is a simply a sign of respect in traditional Bedouin culture. It's no different from how the Japanese bow before they greet each other.


If bowing is indeed part of the bedouin culture ,then why did the king not bow to the President in return?



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by mybigunit
Umm heres an idea you want lower taxes? Then make friends instead of new enemies to bomb that makes some sense doesnt it?


Umm.....how does sucking-up to a thug lower taxes?

Also, who said anything about going to war with Chavez? You are confusing different subjects. Just because you are not friends does not mean you want to bomb them. Good grief.

If you want to give people more money in their pocket, reduce the cost of energy by allowing America to drill for it's own oil instead of allowing Chavez and others like him to control you. Yeah, that's a better idea.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 09:47 PM
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Shaking Hands? I hardly think so, they appear to be giving eachother dap, as if they were some good old homeboys from the same block. What a joke, and quite frankly, what a mockery of the Office of President that Obama has been making on his International Relations tours as of recent.

I know too many individuals who have fled from Venezuela as well, and I can speak from my gained knowledge that the nation is a disturbing cesspool of corruption, oppression, and assassinations. Chavez is a complete thuggish tyrant, and he deserves no recognition beyond a simple diplomatic "Hello". There was a reason Hugo Chavez never squared off face-to-face with President Bush in such a manner, and to answer it quite blatantly, it was because he [Chavez] feared him [President Bush].



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by mybigunit
Umm heres an idea you want lower taxes? Then make friends instead of new enemies to bomb that makes some sense doesnt it?


Umm.....how does sucking-up to a thug lower taxes?

Also, who said anything about going to war with Chavez? You are confusing different subjects. Just because you are not friends does not mean you want to bomb them. Good grief.

If you want to give people more money in their pocket, reduce the cost of energy by allowing America to drill for it's own oil instead of allowing Chavez and others like him to control you. Yeah, that's a better idea.



WhatTheory cmon man you know and I know that if the US wanted to bomb the hell out of Venezuela you would be in the front row of the cheerleading squad. Second why is he a thug? What makes him a thug?

If you want to keep more of peoples money in their pockets we are going to have to shrink government which includes dipping into that $1 trillion dollar a year world empire/world police fund. Kinda hard to do that when you are trying to piss off everyone in their brother. Id rather sell Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba crap than be at odds with them.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 09:52 PM
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Shaking hands a good thing ?, dont think so.
Shows how weak our president is.

This man will stab him in the back.



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