reply to post by jellyman1991
you said on 18-4-2009 @ 08:19 AM
... i hope to hear more of your views soon.
Well, that was 5-days ago, and your thread here is still going pretty well -- and I have been following, more or less, during that time with
The 'more' that I have to add at this time is essentially a 're-emphasis' of what I had already tried to say before. So, to 'recap' that
from the intro :
... consciousness exists from its own side, independently of any 'instrumentation,' such as 'brains' and 'nervous sytems,' 'sense organs,'
This was followed by some remarks pointing out that Jung's model of the 'Collective Unconscious' is a 'western' 'rediscovery' of what
'easterners' have never forgotten about - the 'Universal Mind.'
from the summary :
This 'universal mind' can be thought of as the 'great causal ocean,' of which all 'living beings' are individualized 'droplets.'
This universal mind is 'infused' with consciousness. This consciousness is not limited by time [and space]. At this 'highest level' it's
'awareness' lies somehow 'outside' of time [and space].
Each of us naturally can 'tap into' this 'great ocean.' It's just a part of the experience of being alive. It usually happens at an 'irrational
level,' that is to say, 'sub-consciously[,' and quite accidently].
But, every so often we get a 'glimmer' of this 'contact' 'reflected' in our waking consciousness, and sometimes this glimmer can be called
Sort of my own 'hack job' on the matter ...
In the meantime, I've found some material from a rather 'higher authority' making the same presentation, but much
more 'skillfully,' this
time from the Lankavatara Sutra
Source : ATS Media
That the citation makes use of the 'metaphore' of "waves" upon the great 'causal ocean' of 'primordial mind' is no accident. These 'waves'
are the 'vrittis' mentioned here in Patanjali's definition of yoga -
Patanjali Yoga Sutras - Volume I ( Samadhi Pada ), p. 93, private copy
Where 'yoga' is intended here to mean what it has always meant prior to the influence of 'sectarian revisionism' ( ahem ... ) :
'Union' with what, you may ask ?
With just that 'great ocean' of 'primordial mind,' of course is the answer ...
Once this 'union' occurs, then an approach to the 'full knowledge of the three-times' follows as a direct consequence.
Our citation from the Lankavatara continues with further dcsription of this 'Great Ocean' -
Source : ATS Media
Hence, 'De-ja-vou,' as I had mentioned before, is merely the faintest 'glimmer' of this 'full knowledge,' which happens 'accidently' to us
'willy-nilly' as the 'winds' of 'causes and conditions' happen to 'calm' these 'waves' 'momentarily' without 'any special effort' by
Of course these 'accidental moments' of 'intuition' ( 'conscious contact' with 'manas' ) are usually quite brief, and of an altogether