Homeland Security Recognizes New Terrorist Threat: Republicans, page 1
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Topic started on 17-4-2009 @ 02:02 AM by junglejake
It's a slightly misleading subject, in that the document states that it's the radical right-wingers who need to be monitored, and of those, primarily those dangerous individuals who served in the military. However, it does go on to describe what a "radical right-wing extremist" is, part of which I quote below. Here's a link to the Intel Assessment, as well as a link to a pdf of a brief filed by the Thomas Moore Law Center filed regarding the assessment and three individuals being charged using the Homeland Security's findings.

Now note, these aren't those often hated neo-cons we're talking about here. To quote the footnote on page 2 of the assessment: (sorry, the quote's going to be a little ugly, but the emphasis and underlining was done by me)

Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into these groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.


So, if you're ex-military (you can find reasons that all of our soldiers are terrorist threats on just about every page of the document) and don't believe in big government, at least for the next 4 years, you are considered a terrorist threat by your government. If you're ex-military and are passionate about a political issue (the paper mentions anti-abortion or illegal immigration numerous times), for at least the next 4 years, you are considered a terrorist threat by your government. If you're ex-military and don't like big government, would like to see individual states take back what the federal government has wrested from them over the past 70 years, congrats, you, too, are, at least for the next 4 years, a terrorist threat according to your government.

What is this going to mean? It's unclear. There's already the one complaint filed against the use of this assessment regarding 3 individuals. However, one of the individuals associated with the brief is Michael Savage, who is a very staunch political activist, and I haven't been able to find a response yet, so the brief is the he said without the she said. However, the assessment from Homeland Security speaks loudly as to where this administration's efforts of protection are going to be focused. Guess I'm lucky I live in a blue state?


reply posted on 17-4-2009 @ 02:14 AM by junglejake
Here's an article about the intelligence assessment. Apparently I'm not the only one flabbergasted by this:

“The fact the report singles out issues like abortion and immigration shows it was put together from a left-wing political perspective in order to vilify mainstream conservatism by lumping those values into the same category as neo-nazis and terrorists,” charged Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.). “This is a dangerous road to travel,” he continued. “The last time a liberal left administration tried to increase public apprehension about alleged right wing extremism, they ended up with tragedies like Waco while ignoring the increasing presence of radical Islamic terrorists on American soil that ended up with 9-11.”

Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, the Democratic chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, shares those concerns. In an April 14 letter (pdf) to Obama’s DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, he wrote he was “dumbfounded” by the contents of the report. “I am disappointed and surprised that the department would allow this report to be disseminated" to law-enforcement agencies, he said.


So apparently both sides of the aisle see the danger in this. Now to see what happens next...


reply posted on 27-10-2010 @ 03:56 PM by Aim64C
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In all honesty, however, the bureaucracy should fear prior military who are fairly upset with where the government is heading.

It is not beyond the realm of possibility for militant action to arise. I am opposed to taking militant action at this time, and for the foreseeable future - but there are others who do not see it this way. The job of homeland security is to secure the homeland - people who are pissed at the government (for understandable reasons, or not) as well as having military training (and access to arms), are a valid risk to security. When you consider these guys are a lot of Vietnam and Iraq war veterans - I'd be rather scared, too - they've actually fought a guerrilla war.

Although this report does attempt to place some very specific labels on groups of people, and overstate the problem and possibility - clearly politically motivated.

That said, there are groups out there willing to take militant action. Who are those acts going to be against? Local military bases not involved in legislation, on the local Sheriff's office?

I presently wear the uniform. I'm rather upset with the way things are going in the government. I'm also somewhat concerned I might get shot at by disgruntled 'civilians' because I am part of the federal military and people have the strange belief we're telepathically controlled by "the government."

I'm fairly certain most of the prior military have enough sense and understanding of who/what the military is to not do something like that... but the others? I'm not so confident.
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