Mainstream Media - How we are all being bent over, and shouting for more!, page 1

As of late, my frustration with this forum and its back and forth stance on MSM has reached new levels. Anyone who has read my posts will notice my great disdain for MSM and it's use on this forum. Additionally, at the beginning of MSM' amazingly well planned, snuggle up to Conspiracy Theorists, I was outspoken about why they were doing what they were doing well others pushed their propaganda. My efforts though, have not been good enough as the forum is continually bombarded by MSM at every corner, and since my posts seem to be lost in lengthy threads, I am writing this in-depth thread to hopefully bring serious light to this issue and its importance on this forum.

Why?

Mainstream media has always had one main purpose. To sway public opinion to one direction. This goes really bad for the average person, when the people who own these media companies, are the same people lobbying in the politicians that write the laws for the average person. It is a situation that breeds corruption, and pushes media into becoming biased hit men, who's only purpose is to change your opinion, to one that suits them.

What we are left with everyday, is the MSM cramming useless information down our throats, as well as changing facts, destroying well meaning peoples credibility and the use of a multitude of gimmicks to sway your opinion.

Thankfully, to help illustrate my point we have just experienced the Tea Party 'event'.

What happened with the media and their coverage of Tea Parties?

Here's how it played out:

Cnn - Took the anti tea party stance.
Fox - Took the pro tea party stance.

At this point, even conspiracy theorists are confused. Why, why is fox backing them? Why is CNN attacking fox for backing them? So again, just like in politics, we have what appears to be "two sides to a coin", but as we soon found out, they are infact still the same coin.

What did BOTH organizations do when they got to their Tea Parties? They ridiculed people, made them seem extreme, and discredited them at every turn.

Another dirty trick is their use of a form of NLP on interviewees. I point it out in this thread.

Here's what I wrote:

This is a branch of NLP whether she knows what she is doing, or shes just doing what she is told. She askes a question, his subconscious delivers the answer to his conscious and he starts talking, this is when she immediatelly chimes in with a further, absurd question forcing his subconscious to scramble to pull out a good answer.

Now this is important, because when you watch the Video this is exactly what she does. She asks the gentleman a question, and while hes anwering she throws him for a loop so that he is now just babbling, appearing delusional.

This was her EXACT purpose, now why this is extremely important is cause 80% of the population, who gets their news ENTIRELY from the MSM, is now gonna turn off their TV with the mindset that "tea party attendees are just delusional morons with no point in their claims"

Which to me, sounds like Mission Accomplished.

CNN Clip I am talking about:
www.youtube.com...

Now lets get back to Fox, which before the Tea parties were labeled by both conspiracy theorists, as well as other MSM media outlets (namely CNN), as supporters of the Tea Parties.

But, they too were only there to play the exact same game as CNN, ridicule, belittle, confuse. Leaving the viewer, with the exact same message, these people are morons!

Heres a great clip of that:
www.youtube.com...

At one point saying "hopefully Obama is at home watching all these arrogant Americans"

So we can now see thanks to this incident, the first case of MSM coming into an non mainstream event, playing both sides, but both having the same goal. But hopefully now, as I am explaining this, you are also seeing how well planned and coordinated their tactics are and look around it works well.

MSM Snuggles upto Conspiracy Theorists?

Again, just as with the Tea Parties, recently we started to see Fox suddenly snuggling up to Conspiracy Theorists.

Alot of the people on the forum said, why? Why are they doing this? Others stood by their hate of these fraudulent fascists, and some others, fell into their trap. Posting thread after thread of MSM snuggling up to conspiracy theorists. This was when I really got concerned, cause for the first time they were making a blatent attempt at infiltrating the movement.

But what truly alarmed me, was how fast so called opposites, gravitated to support of Fox. How quickly they could go from being hated, to being put up with was soo startling.

And again, when it was all happening, I was outspoken. Because them snuggling up, is the absolute worst thing that can happen to this movement. I explained why in the past, and I will again here:

When mainstream media starts snuggling up, slowly but surely (as noted) they start to sway the opinion of truth movement and conspiracy movement, as well as other non mainstream movements.

The media already controls 80% of mindless Americans who simply gobble up MSM propaganda and spew it around every corner. So they aren't concerned with them anymore, what is important is for them to capture that remaining 20%, which includes the likes of me and you.

So as they pick up steam and start to sway more and more opinion, this is when things get very bad. Because the next time any major event happens, they are going to be the ones deciding the facts, deciding who gets to have their opinion displayed without being attacked, ridiculed, and belittled, essentially they write the history.

We need only look back 8 years to see the power of Media writing history.

Additionally, while they're not skewing the opinion of conspiracies and non-mainstream movements, they are busy distracting us.

Most can recall the bailout bonuses scandals, yes?

Now can we all realize, that not only did media waste a large percentage of several days arguing about this issue, but also this forum did as well.

The problem with that, is we were arguing over 100's of millions, at a time where 100's of billions were exiting our country, and going into everyones pocket BUT OUR OWN, while we picked up the tab. Does anyone see the problem with that situation?

What I want from this community

I just want people to please recognize what the media actually is, and understand that they are pushing the Agenda. Understand that when you are watching their shows, you are not listening to factual news reporting, you are hearing a slanted view every single time. They will attempt to use quick flashy stats, graphics and so called "experts" to sway your opinion exactly where they want it.

What would I actually like? If everyone unanimously quit watching MSM, if you actually want to make a difference in this country, the MEDIA HAS TO BE ON OUR SIDE!

How do we accomplish that? By forcing their change, if 90% of their viewers either quit watching, or started mass mailing demanding TRUE journalism from them. I think they would have no choice but to change their BUSINESS MODEL, and remembers, that's what they are, a BUSINESS.

I'll end on a quote, cause someone once told me that it's likely someone has said it better before - and a video, OUTFOXED, a must watch for anyone who frequents this forum.

Thanks everyone who took the time to read, and hopefully we can do our part in denying ignorance, and informing our friends, family and loved ones, that the MSM is not looking out for our best interests, and should never be trusted.

“The media tends to report rumors, speculations, and projections as facts... How does the media do this? By quoting some "expert"... you can always find some expert who will say something hopelessly hopeless about anything.” - Peter McWilliams

Google Video Link

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reply to post by imd12c4funn

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Well said *S*.

You can see what I mean by distraction. The country is literally crumbling and the media sensationalized the entire bonus scene, throwing the entire country into a pointless debate. All this squabling for less than 1% of the money the government had wasted that month. Yet it took up a much larger percent of peoples time and energy.

This is one example, the examples are absolutely endless though. That's why 80% of the countries opinions when it comes to politics esspecially, are just regurgitation of what the MSM portrays.

Another quote by Malcolm X said that the media is one of the most powerful entities in the world, it has the power to elect or not elect people, convict or not convict. It literally sways everything.

In fact, for a large amount of people in the population, almost their entire life has been shaped based on what is being pushed mainstream. They believe what they think is the norm, and you can always figure out what the "norm" is supposed to be, by watching the MSM push the hell out it.

I really wish more people would not get afraid and hit the back button when they see a thread that is more than a couple paragraphs. A few minutes of reading to potentially learn something is too tough for some on this forum. It's a shame

GL imd, thx for your input.

reply to post by DrZERO

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Yah exactly, it all boils down to perception.

They have to be the people who create our entire perception of the world around us, even though what they force us to perceive doesn't resemble anything close to reality.

Thanks for bringing up the election, you're right and I have even mentioned this in one of many threads that I posted in and brought up the MSM foul plays. They always have to appear as if they are showing all sides of the situation. But the media acts in concert, so that for the entire day, the whole country is discussing whatever has been thrown on the plate.

Sometimes its distraction, but as I mentioned above, they are just appearing to be on both sides so that they can each attack the subject in different ways, trying to discredit opinions which the MSM does not like.


Every single major event that this forum has argued about over the last several years, was perpetrated with the ASSISTANCE of the MSM! EVERY SINGLE TIME. To stop what is going on to our country, to stop what is going on in the world, to end this road to tyranny, it all starts with returning media to its roots. Where it works for the people, not for the government and it's fascist friends.

reply to post by king9072

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People do depend too much on MSM to form their opinions for them. The only part of your post that I take issue with is:

At one point saying "hopefully Obama is at home watching all these arrogant Americans"

He was referring to Obama's comment that America has been arrogant and dismissive towards our allies when he was giving a speech. He wasn't putting the protesters down, or ridiculing them.

Good thread.

Yes the media often feeds us just what they want and they aren't afraid to edit and twist things to fit their ends.

In the grand scheme of things, pro-wrestling doesn't amount to a much at all. But in the case it gives us a good example of just what the MSM will do.

The guy that runs the WWE is not really a fool. So, when CNN wanted to interview one of his wrestlers he had another camera running. Just in case CNN decided to edit the interview to put words in his star's mouth regarding steroids.

Would CNN do such a thing?!

Oh, you bet they would - and did...

John Cena on CNN - Edited and Unedited Interviews

At the link above is a couple of clips. One of the unedited interview with the wrestler John Cenea and the other the version that CNN aired. There is quite a difference.

“I can’t tell you that I haven’t, but you’ll never be able to prove that I have.” That’s what they have John Cena saying in this footage, in response to if he uses steroids.

That’s a pretty damning statement by itself. So damning in fact, that it could seriously hurt John Cena’s career…but it’s not true. When John Cena was asked if he had ever used steroids his answer was much longer, and started with “Absolutely Not.”

You can see both at the link above.

I'm not trying to promote WWE, Cena, pro-wrestling or anything like that. It was just the first example that sprang to my mind of a MSM outlet twisting what was acutally said to make it fit their purpose.

Very good thread!!

As we climb closer to the top of the MSM pyramid of power we find The "Big Six"

1-General Electric

2-Walt Disney

3-News Corp

4-Time Warner (CNN)

5-Viacom

6-CBS

You can find out out just who owns what at FreePress.net

It is frightening to see that our day to day view of "reality" is pre-packaged by these corporate entities.

NLP is mentioned, so true. The very act of watching TV sedates the mind into an alpha state of brain activity, a light meditation. then whatever message our corporate rulers want to dump onto us is readily absorbed and "learned".

We then go out and spread the message like a virus. People easily accept what someone tells them if it is followed with "I saw it on CNN". They then go home to their own TV and hear the same or similar message on Fox and it is reinforced. It must be true.

Public opinion has now just been swayed. It is nothing less than mind control. The subtlety of it is so sinister many people can't believe it because it is so unlike the mind control ray gun that turns everyone into order following zombies that they had seen in the movies. When in reality it really is the same thing in a very deceptive picture box that is likely the focal point of your living room.

We are subjected to this in everything. There are always sides, choose your side and oppose those of us who have chosen the other side. It's divide and conquer pure and simple. While we argue with each other over two sides of the same coin we are easily controlled because the argument are created for us. We are so caught up in the argument that the real agenda slips right past us. Over and over again.

Right here on ATS how many times does the Republican/Democrat thing pop up or the FOXNEWS/CNN bickering? How persistant some of the regular fighters are. How truly, madening it is to see it over and over right here.

There is a certain saftey in the fog. It's a comfort zone that many are afraid to leave, afraid to confront the fact that the side they've chosen is really just a mirror of the other side and facing the truth of how enslaved we really are is unsettling if not terrifying.

So on we fight, by design. Always against each other never against the enemy.

This is a direct result of the conditioning that we experience our whole lives through the corporate MSM and especially TV.

The wrestling was a great example, something that millions of viewers watch, their Monday night program is second only to Monday night football during the season. A lot of people watched that and came away with the opinion that was designed for them to have. These first impressions really stick and later finding out that it was doctored to present the lie does little to erase that first opinion.

I thought it was a brilliant move to roll his own camera during the interview, but as I said it's the first opinion that sticks. CNN knew that, so even though they must have known that the true interview was on tape, they doctored it anyway and aired a ficticious lie. Knowing it would stick in the minds of the viewers.

I only watch TV for entertainment nowdays. I do like movies, and a few shows, some sitcoms make me laugh. Thats all fine and good, I even put on the news sometimes but rarely, just to see if anything shocking is on. I never have faith in it's truth.

Here in Madison we are locally represented by the big 4, and the same guy even owns two of the stations. At 10 you can flip from one to another and catch the exact same stories on all, try it sometime. Heck, for a while those two stations with one owner even shared a couple news readers so you could watch your favorite guy on both channels spewing the same sript at a different camera! I'm not making this up.

Great topic...

See this is the stuff I'm talking about!!!!

I started a thread late last night:

Why some tune out to conspiracy or questioning government

For example

"Hey, you've heard of the NWO, right?"

" No....what is that?"

" (explaining NWO....)"

"Oh really? Wow....so I wonder who just got voted off of American Idol last night"


You catch my drift? I did some research and already knowledgeable about Tavistock, the use of Fluoride and the CIA 's infamous MKUltra, I stumbled upon this:

WHAT THE CIA MEANS BY THE TERM ‘SLIDES’
A ‘slide’ is a prefabricated, ‘politically correct’ blanket ‘pop’ ‘opinion’, ‘view’ or ‘take’ upon a particular issue of general interest which is designed to preclude further consideration, analysis or investigation of the issue in question. In other words, it is a ‘collectivised’ mental position which is never to be questioned. This is precisely the ‘product’ of the Deputy Prime Minister’s insidious neurological linguistic control programme ‘Common Purpose’.



Anyway, this made for another sleepless night of interesting reading......

worldreports.org...

en.wikipedia.org...


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reply to post by Grambler

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*STAR*

Very correct. Note the following part of my post:

What did BOTH organizations do when they got to their Tea Parties? They ridiculed people, made them seem extreme, and discredited them at every turn.

That was the whole reason Fox snuggled up, and CNN (among others) backed off, thats the beauty of the scam, is that they can take whatever stance they want cause once they get to the party they're all on the same agenda.

"They ridiculed people, made them seem extreme, and discredited them at every turn."

Hi king9072

Thank you for the exelent read.
This subject you posted has been stuck in my head ever since i readed your post for the first time.
Your points raised keep playing up every time i read this board and other sources of conspiracy information.

Today i read this post of an other member "TheOracle" who made the thread:
They don't want us to know
It is about the lack of coverage by the mainstream media of the bilderberger meetings.
Some good points raised there but, it seems that things are changing and it looks a lot like they are changing in a direction you are pointing out in this thread.

Here is a news report from a well respected english news paper "the Guardian" and they send a journalist over to the bilderberger meeting this year in greece i believe.

Our man at Bilderberg: 'You are not allowed to take pictures of policemen!'

Yesterday divides in half: the half where I flee the Bilderberg resort, too scared and strung out to remain, and the half when I have to bundle myself in a random cab and drive to the British Embassy for my own safety.

I am being hounded. And all because I dared report on Bilderberg. Because I dared point my finger at them, there, in the darkness of a seaside peninsula. Ecce Bilderberg!
Source "the Guardian"

I believe it is some coverage of this meetings by this journalist a in couple of parts over the last weeks.
This same week a friend of mine found an article on the bilderberger meetings in the free news paper "Metro", this paper gets published in more than one country i believe, over here it is in the top 3 or 4.
I cant seem to find the article in english online anyway but it appears to look at both angles.
Something like, is it just a thea party or is it like a shadow government like in the tv series 24.

To me it looks like these major news outleds are starting a new strategy and these example articles show to me that the points you raise in your OP seem to be very valid.

These days certain news can realy fly over the world in hours like a wild fire and they want more control over it, from what i can see.

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