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Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
In all of the "declassified" documentation you guys have read through, have you guys come across the names of the pilots involved in these kinds of cases where aircraft have been scrambled to intercept the unknown object (s)?
THE BLUE BOOK UNKNOWNS
In January, 1974, I visited the U.S. Air Force Archives at Maxwell AFB, Montgomery, Ala., to review the files of Project Blue Book as the first step toward writing a book on the subject.
In a full week, I read all the "unexplained" cases in the original files and made extensive notes, including the names and other identifying information on all witnesses where given. The cooperation of the staff of the Archives was excellent, and no restrictions were placed on my work.
A few months later, the files were withdrawn from public view so they could be prepared for transfer to the National Archives in Washington, D.C. This process involved making a xerox copy of almost 30 file drawers of material, blacking out the names and other identifiers of all witnesses, and then microfilming the censored xerox copy. The microfilm has been available to the public at the National Archives since 1976. The original Project Blue Book files remain under lock and key at the Archives.
On almost every page of the 12,000+ case files, there are big black marks where information that could be used to cross-check Project Blue Book's controversial work has been censored.
This includes the names of witnesses to widely-publicized cases, and even names in newspaper clippings.
Originally posted by easynow
great case thanks for the info
it's highly unlikely these objects were ducks, i have seen them fly over at night and there is no mistaking them. if none of the witnesses said they were birds then they probably weren't. also flares wouldn't stay in a precise congruent formation like that, no way. i don't know what it was but it sure is interesting.
Dr. J.C. Cross, head of Tech’s Department of Biology, examined the 35mm photographs, and asserted, "It definitely wasn’t caused by birds."
In Matador, reports were made of a "noiseless aircraft flying at a low altitude, without aid of propellers or wings." They said it was different from any aircraft they had ever seen.
The two witnesses report a 'pear-shaped object, aluminum or silver in color, which readily reflected the sunlight' - they also mention the object had a 'door or porthole'.
Ruppelt himself would come to reject the plover hypothesis, but frustratingly refrained from explaining what the lights in fact were:
"They weren't birds, they weren't refracted light, but they weren't spaceships. The lights ... have been positively identified as a very commonplace and easily explainable natural phenomenon. It is very unfortunate that I can't divulge ... the way the answer was found.... Telling the story would lead to [the identity of the scientist who "finally hit upon the answer"] and ... I promised the man complete anonymity"
While investigating the Lubbock Lights, Ruppelt also learned that several people in and around Lubbock claimed to have seen a "flying wing" moving over the city (Clark, 347). Among the witnesses was the wife of Dr. Ducker, who reported that in August 1951 she had observed a "huge, soundless flying wing" pass over her house (Clark, 347). Ruppelt knew that the US Air Force did possess a "flying wing" jet bomber, and he felt that at least some of the sightings had been caused by the bomber, although he could not explain why, according to the witnesses, the wing made no sound as it flew overhead.
"The world famous Lubbock Lights were night flying moths reflecting the bluish-green light of a nearby row of mercury vapour street lights."
The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects by Captain Edward J. Ruppelt.
1959 Revised Edition.
Apparently Ruppelt now stated the lights were caused by moths
“the flag of the utter nonsense school was flying at its highest on the mast.”
Scene involving actual UFO reports of the period... missing from US releases. Obviously staged to be inserted or cut from the film. For some interesting reason, only in the UK version.
Originally posted by dsm1664
reply to post by karl 12
Highly Reflective Duck Bellies.
I'm going to use that one...
Eyewitness Spotted Lights 4 Years Before The Lubbock Sightings
One evening (9 or 10 PM) a few months later I was feeding my two dogs on the back patio of my home when my peripheral vision detected movement in the sky. I looked up and saw the lights in V formation. It was a perfect V with perhaps 5-7 lights along each line of the V. The lights were all the same size and in single file, unlike some of the photos being shown, and each light was a bit larger than the full moon, but much dimmer. They were perfectly circular, and they moved rapidly and silently. Geese never form a perfect V, are never perfectly round, are never silent (usually they are first detected by their honking), and their movement is relatively slow. These lights moved rapidly from NW to SE.
Although I first spotted them at about the apogee point, they crossed the sky in a matter of only about 3 or 4 seconds. The event was a surprise in itself, but I was in store for another surprise. Even though there was much horizon left for their movement, they totally disappeared at an elevation of about 30 degrees or so. It was as if a light switch had been flicked off. All of this occurred in the town of Dickinson, TX.
Originally posted by interst88
I'm new to this site/forum, so hello everyone, thanks for the intelligent conversation about this! I fancy myself an amateur ufologist so it is nice to see a forum where there's not a bunch of crazy talk.
Anyway, about the Lubbock Lights...I saw a pic that looked like the same object in a book (I wish I would have remembered the name of the book...I'm going back to the same bookstore to see if I can locate it, and perhaps photograph, if possible...) except this object was photographed in Brazil in the 70's...and I know someone already mentioned, but it does look like what was described as the Phoenix Lights in '97. I am wondering if you all had seen the video of "the Intruder" in Northern AZ in 97...to me, it looks like the lights in Lubbock - only as an actual video.
pretty freaky...when I rediscovered the Lubbock Lights case, I thought of the Brazil pic as well as the "Intruder" video that I had seen a couple of years ago.
I would love to know what the rest of you all think about this.
Originally posted by spiritualarchitect
moths that glow like Frisbees? More military cover up.
The sketch made by Charles Sradomski, who 'avowed he would swear on the Bible he saw the objects regardless of what anyone thought'