CNN cover - "Texas governor says secession possible", page 2
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reply posted on 17-4-2009 @ 09:24 AM by Fremd
reply to post by jam321


If a state secedes peacefully, where is the force. If the US sends in the military(which half are probably from Texas) then in Texas we call that SELF-DEFENSE.


Well, think about it first.

First off, you have how many government offices and how much government property *IN* texas?

You think Uncle Sam is going to let Texas keep it?
Please.

This is nothing more than the classic Texas attitude.
Talk a big game and do nothing about it.

The lone star state indeed. Because they were too lazy to sew on anymore.
It really is pathetic that they're making such a big deal over Obama spending money on AMERICA

and not a big deal when bush spent money on IRAQI'S

Personally im not a big fan of either. But then again, nobody is calling me a hypocrite.

[edit on 17-4-2009 by Fremd]


reply posted on 17-4-2009 @ 09:34 AM by jam321
reply to post by Fremd


You think Uncle Sam is going to let Texas keep it?
Please.

This is nothing more than the classic Texas attitude.
Talk a big game and do nothing about it.


If they want it they can have it. Once again the US would have to attack first and if they do then Texans have a right to defend themselves.


But I don't why I even keep arguing the secession. I have already said several times that is not going to happen. Rick Perry is just playing people for votes. The man ain't got a serious bone in his pocket. Texas will be a part of the US today, tomorrow, and well into the future.

It really is pathetic that they're making such a big deal over Obama spending money on AMERICA

and not a big deal when bush spent money on IRAQI'S


Maybe you ought to come on down and talk to some of my fellow Texans. I know plenty of them that complained about the money Bush spent in Iraq.

Not nice to paint everybody with the same brush.


reply posted on 17-4-2009 @ 11:32 AM by Fremd
reply to post by jam321


If they want it they can have it. Once again the US would have to attack first and if they do then Texans have a right to defend themselves.


Nobody is doubting that...why tout it as an argument? Do you enjoy arguing with yourself?

However, the latest Rasmussen Reports poll in the state finds that if the matter was put to a vote, it wouldn’t even be close. Three-fourths (75%) of Lone Star State voters would opt to remain in the United States. Only 18% would vote to secede, and seven percent (7%) are not sure what they'd choose.

75 % Opt to stay in Union

So if they do secede, do you really think Texas is going to have jack or crap for a population? No. Everyone (or at least 75% of everyone) will cross the border and run away.

And to think...18% of texans are so filled with hate and rage because they lost an election that they're actually thinking of withdrawing from the union.

Yeah, i used to play these games too, back on the play ground. You bluff and tell your friend that you're not friends anymore unless you get to use the slide first.

Seriously...Texans need to grow up.



reply posted on 17-4-2009 @ 11:46 AM by Amaxium
reply to post by Fremd


Not trying to egg anything on but I checked out the website. I have confirmed from all I know and no one ever asked about thier views to Texas secession or Union preferences. I searched and did not find at first glance when, where, and how many they polled and in what manner they conducted the polling. Do you happen to know?

Granted even I do not ultimatly want secession but if what most of these conspiracy claims on ATS end up occuring and we find ourselves under military like rule with so many right's striped away I will thrust support towards secession. In the mean time we should all be focused on changing the direction our government appears to be heading in peaceful and legal means.


reply posted on 17-4-2009 @ 11:59 AM by Fremd
reply to post by Amaxium


I have confirmed from all I know and no one ever asked about thier views to Texas secession or Union preferences


A poll doesnt mean all texans are asked the question.

A poll is a poll and is all you can really go on to get a general feel for how something is going.

I realize this maybe a gross generalization, but seeing as how this topic is favored heavily by the extreme conservative movement, and opposed by everyone else....and this poll was the headliner for drudgereport.com (the second most extreme conservative entity in our country) and was by the Rasmussen ... i kind of felt like it went without saying that it's closer to true and farther away from being false.

Is 75 % Accurate? Not sure. But i am guessing, given the venues it's being covered in, that this is the general consensus for Texans.


reply posted on 17-4-2009 @ 02:20 PM by Sestias
reply to post by Phoenix2

I starred your post. "Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it." Secession has been tried before.

Most Americans don't remember the Great Depression of the 1930's either. President Herbert Hoover did what the Teapartiers want to do now--refused to provide any stimulus for the economy and cut back government spending. The result was a depression that lasted longer than ten years. The tent cities that sprang up when people lost their homes were called "Hoovervilles" in his honor.

I hate to bring this up in the present company, but it took Franklin D. Roosevelt and his New Deal to bring us out of it. Many people refuse to believe that a Democrat could ever do anything good for the country, but he did.

History matters.


reply posted on 22-9-2009 @ 12:56 AM by otheym
reply to post by Amaxium

I am all for Texas seceding from the US. Then all the brain-dead right wing morons can move there and leave the rest of us alone! Since they hate the US government we should vacate all the military bases and all other government installations. Also cut off any social security, unemployment , school aid, irrigation,etc. You hate the US government? Fine, have nothing to do with any of it.


reply posted on 22-9-2009 @ 06:45 PM by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by Mak Manto


Please provide proof

Proof has already been given that it could.


reply posted on 22-9-2009 @ 06:48 PM by dooper
reply to post by Mak Manto

Actually, Texas is a Republic.

It originated as a Republic, and seceeded from the Union. Just as all the Confederate States, Texas is LEGALLY an occupied territory.

Now if they want to reassert their original intent . . .
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