Liberals are being extremely hypocritical right now.

I'm not talking about the liberals here on ATS. But I'm talking about a mass majority of the liberals who I talk to on the forums I go to. And in real life. These liberals are denying everything that their government is doing only saying that "bush was worse". I know Bush was worse. I however am getting extremely mad at how the Democrats are trying to create economic fascism in our government... okay well not the government but the elite bankers... and the Democrats are helping them. When I try to point out to all the liberals what the government is doing wrong they just deny everything. It's like their fighting spirit has gotten taken away from them and now they're sheep. Has anyone else ran into this problem lately? These liberals are acting so hypocritical I cannot believe it. What happened to them? They were like "OMG the Republicrats are spending massively" and now they're like "The Democrats are trying to help the economy." I cannot believe it.

[edit on 15-4-2009 by Frankidealist35]

Ignorance is Bliss, my friend. It is much easier to pretend the world isnt so contemptuous and hateful.

Better for some people to live in the dark until they are homeless, starving and beaten into submission.

The only time those types of people will realize the truth is when they are backed into a very, very tight corner.

I like to keep to myself and accept their frailties when I learn they are that type of person.

reply to post by Frankidealist35

These liberals are acting so hypocritical I cannot believe it. What happened to them? They were like "OMG the Republicrats are spending massively" and now they're like "The Democrats are trying to help the economy." I cannot believe it.

It's the cycle our 2 party system is in. It will reverse when the other party is in power....and the average American will once again get crushed because of it.

I'm growing wary of all of it.

I'm growing angry at Democrats who support huge government who damn well know that this power they are giving to them can easily be retaken by Republicans...with whom will have even greater power than they had before.

Why in the hell aren't they worried about this?

They don't give a damn...they don't even see it.

reply to post by David9176


Voting doesnt change anything either. It's rigged by the government to get the most pliable person into office.

reply to post by Frankidealist35


Absolutely nothing has happened to them. The liberal/dem/progressives have always been hypocrites.

Your perception has changed.

The liberals have always believed spending is good when it's for them and their causes. They've always believed socialism is fine as long as it limited conservative choices, opportunities and values.

Under Obama, a fascist mindset intent on government control of corporations, combined with socialistic policies on education, energy and health, affect and cost EVERYONE!

Everyone is being limited and losing wealth. Through in the broken pledges and promises, mix up some inconsistencies, and the lberals start to feel left out.

You are noticing it because you too have been affected in some way and are beginning to see the root problems in the administration's agendi.

Want proof? Look at the population of the "Tea Party" crowds:
Not one political party mentioned or endorsed. Not one allowed to speak. Purely apolitical and policy-driven.

Contrasted with destructive policies, liberal ideals appear to be just what they are: hypocrisy.

deni ygnorance

jw

reply to post by David9176

Hmm....

More people should register independent. They need to stick it to the false two party system.


reply to post by jdub297


It's not about liberal policies. It's about how liberals are acting. I'm not discussing their (the elites) policies per say. Just about the liberals themselves.

Yeah, I feel alienated from most liberals on politics now. Almost as much as from conservatives.

proud liberal here.

so we are hipocritical because

a) we support investing in our nation ?

b) because we will not proclaim along with the teabaggers that the government spending is out of control ?

c) because we are into the fascist control of corporations ?

d) because we support liberal policies and not conservative policies ?

really what i think it boils down too, you know the deep roots of the issue at hand, is first and foremost the conservative element displaying the last throes of a dying ideology and regime in power.

i understand that the current spending that is intended to prevent a total collapse of our nation economically and the spread of this collapse around the world is massive, scary massive, but what would you have the current administration do?

the outgoing administration gave this nations wealth away. we spent TRILLIONS of dollars just in Iraq, you know Bush's war of 'necessity' against Saddam.

the trillions spent there all went to 'right wing' corporations to rebuild that nation so they could pay us back, too bad that didn't work out.

Bush made it so the government couldn't even negotiate prices on medicine with the med-industry.

i mean day after day, year after year the man gave out wealth away, and yet you guys are not out complaining in the streets until your guys no longer run the government? seriously?

you expect to be taken seriously with such a painfully biased outcry?

i can understand ideological differences, but this is n example of a pathetic and childish tenancies.

ya, we are the hypocrites all right (sarcasm).

i did not like 'giving' money away to the banks and i do not agree with buying the banks volatile debts, but I DO agree with investing in our nation. I am able to understand that productivity is supported by the foundation of a working infrastructure and that the development of this infrastructure in itself benefits tha nation.

I agree with lowering taxes on the lower income portions of the US and raising them for the extremely wealthy.

I know that some form of collective health care will make the nation more competitive (corporations are hindered by producing here because of the price of our capitalist health care system).

So yes, I both agree and disagree with Obama, I am not a blind follower, nor and I a a cheerleader.

You guys give us liberals so much crap, (for everything) tell me what is the REAL answer, if you all know so much.

How do we avert and fix the problem at hand? By protesting paying taxes (which for most of us just got lowered)?

reply to post by Animal


You're making it an ideological reason. That is not the point I'm trying to make. You can't keep up your power with dead end ideological such as statism. Interventionism has proven to be wrong in the past. If you put too much blind faith in the government to fix the economy it will create problems in the future and future Presidents will abuse that power. I'm not a conservative. I'm an independent.

What I'm saying is that liberals accused conservatives for making extremely big government and now you're giving the government far more power than the conservatives have... and you're not being that critical of them. That's the main point I'm making.

Originally posted by Animal
i mean day after day, year after year the man gave out wealth away, and yet you guys are not out complaining in the streets until your guys no longer run the government? seriously?

My guys haven't run the government for nearly if not more than a century, so I'll thank you not to lump me and many other true conservatives here in with the Republicrat party.

Obama and company all work for the same people, as did Bush, as did Clinton.

You just backed up OPs point essentially, claiming Bush wasted money while Obama is "Investing" in the nation. Bush "Invested" in America's security.

I know someone that is denying everything the government is doing. When I try to tell them what's going on, they don't want to hear it. Something tells me that things are to start getting a lot worst because of the liberals in our government.

I am very very liberal, yet I find myself disgusted with Obama, and our government in general. I don't understand how anyone can justify the current admin with Bush was worse. Bush is also ancient history now, isn't he? It does not matter who was worse, this is not a game it is our country! I am probably going to quit voting now, as it is obvious our system does not work. I refuse to be a party to the government and it's horrors any more.

reply to post by eNumbra


Some people refuse to get it. They have so thoroughly bought into the imaginary game of left and right that what you and so many others are saying isnt heard, isnt believed or is simply ignored.

It's sad and unnerving at the same time.

I have to agree that liberals right now are indeed acting like hypocrites, however I think the problem is exaggerated and promoted by the media. Scary thing is I wouldn't know which side I was on right now but fortunately I decided that I was on neither along time ago.

I have a friend who I would consider very right winged and agree with him on almost every issue with exception of one thing. Every time the left or right is brought up he will always agree with the the right no matter what the issue is, he will always blame the left. I do not wonder why because he is a gun owner and loves his guns and has every intention of keeping them. But no, thats not where his hatred for the left comes from. He listens to Rush Limbaugh on AM Radio just about every day and I had the pleasure of listening in one day. I could say the same thing about Rush, funny thing is I agree with him more and more these days except for one thing again. He is cointinually bashing the left non-stop and is doing no service to the right either. Though he is correct about the radical form of socialism in our government under Obama, he is directing all anger towards the left and it is people like him that are to blame for this.

A person of his influence should act more responsible when speaking to a public audience, some things should not be talked about unless it is amongst your friends. He is either helping divide the left and right on purpose or he has no tact, but either way what he is doing is wrong.

Everything is a con, in western society not much worth living, in this society where lets pretend you are free bull, is not real.

You grow up as a kid and you think you are living in some sort of free society but when your older you understand that socialism is everywhere,a nd there is no such thing as being free.

That saying by jefferson is true, and being free and ignorant you cannot have both. I would rather know about the bull in society than be ignorant to the scum.

Liberals are ok as long as its not there life ruined. Of course they are all hypocrites.

Originally posted by eNumbra

Originally posted by Animal
i mean day after day, year after year the man gave out wealth away, and yet you guys are not out complaining in the streets until your guys no longer run the government? seriously?

My guys haven't run the government for nearly if not more than a century, so I'll thank you not to lump me and many other true conservatives here in with the Republicrat party.

Just wish more conservatives would wake up, Im still amazed a conservative pro constitution politician ran in the Republican Primaries and just got 5% of the rep. vote. If there are so many true conservatives in the republican party, when are they going to stand up and let there voices be heard? Or is it easier to let the Rush and Fox noise do the critical thinking for you? [not a personal shot at you eNumbra]

Obama and company all work for the same people, as did Bush, as did Clinton.

Agreed and it really sucks for us that this is so.

You just backed up OPs point essentially, claiming Bush wasted money while Obama is "Investing" in the nation. Bush "Invested" in America's security.

Bush invested in his, his fathers, and ideological friends, and pretty much sums up why we are where were at. Just look at Katrina, the last administration spread there corruption and incompetence worldwide

reply to post by Frankidealist35


This is exactly what I am experiencing as well. It's a big joke. It's an obvious sign of what the MSM and constant spinning can do. Because they say it is so it must be so.

Granted, the Bush regime was TERRIBLE for this nation. I don't buy into any of the BS about how we will be thanking him in 10 years. That's garbage. They broke so many laws and illegally invaded a soveirgn nation.

They also spent trillions of dollars and many of them and their friends made out like bandits.

What is happening now is the same crap, different name and symbol. Yet now it is in the name of 'doing what is best for us'... wait, that is what the Bush regime said too.

One thing I can say is that it is going to be interesting to see how it all pans out. I just hope that my children don't suffer like so many other innocents have in history. That is what I fear most.

I think this thread is really hypocritical and insulting.

And I also think that if a conservative was in power, things wouldn't be any better.

So uh, pffffft.

Originally posted by ravenshadow13
And I also think that if a conservative was in power, things wouldn't be any better.

You mean like Romney or McCain or Guiliani?

This exact thing would be happening just as it was under Bush and Clinton and Bush Sr. Expand the fed, push the empire, restrict liberties.

*Totally read that wrong and edited to fit. My bad

[edit on 16-4-2009 by thisguyrighthere]

They were being hypocritical when they were duped by bush,
the repubs and big corporations as the answer.
They were being hypocritical when they supported him through years of war because they thought it was good for the country then.

Well, I am supporting our president now just the same as I did Bush then.
I seem to remember you're either with us or your against us....
We have no alternatives or choice, ever! This is the best we can do, folks! G.C.
Once he screws up bad then all bets are off and he loses my support.
I honestly dont think Obama has screwed up enough to warrant the baggage he already carries, for land sakes can you go easy on him?
I hear alot of complaining on here, but I dont hear much fessin' up ever!
Someone votes these people into power and I can personally tell ya,
it ain't me!

btw, I guess that means I'm hypocritical! The liberal part?
Thats a dirty word like cancer, I won't even go there!
Who knows anymore? I consider myself an AMERICAN!
Imagine that! Neither right nor left!



[edit on 16-4-2009 by dodadoom]