I’m jealous; I really want to go to one. So far I’ve only been to one tax revolt protest this year and I’m itching for more. And FYI for some, I don’t despise Obama (though I now believe he is in bed with the corporatist just like Clinton and Bush), just because I support this movement. I’m independent and liberal leaning and yet I support this movement. I know this seems unlikely to some but I don’t know what to tell you other than that you need to turn off the television and actually approach a few people involved with this movement and have a conversation with them instead of the people telling you who they supposedly are.

Originally posted by TheTilde
Seen from outside of the USA, all these tea-parties are frightening and amazing both at the same time.

It's amazing that the revolution in America seems to come not under the guilty Bush administration but under the very administration who is trying to remedy the problem.

It's frightening that it appears (from outside your land, Americans) that it's mainly racism that is driving this revolt. You may not see it from inside because of subjectivity. But last monthes, the threads here at ATS changed a lot towards racism and crazyness against a "black" guy.


I applaud you USians who elected a black president and who were ready to elect a woman (HC). You set a precedent for the world. Shame that it seems Obama will be the one present during the revolt, and that involuntarily he is part of the cause.

Do what you want with my post, I tell it like I see it.

I don't care what color the man is. If you wish to split hairs he is just as "white" as he is "black". Frankly that has nothing to do with it. The only problem I have is that instead of wondering what our grievances are, people wonder "why are they so racist?"

I hold no ill will against President Obama, I just want him and his cabinet to stop spending and printing money they don't have. I want the administration to acknowledge that they are not permitted to force States to do anything except what The Constitution stipulates. I am not angry at the Democratic Party, I am angry at the two party system that promotes from within and follows the party agenda instead of listening to The People. I want assurances that These United States of America will remain sovereign. I am glad we help other countries with food, aid, and finances, but I wish we would do it here first.

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Originally posted by Blaine91555
I think this is just starting. This is their worst nightmare. Ordinary working folks in peaceful, lawful protest. The greatest power there is. Imagine if it were millions. By next year I think it will be.

Thank you for your work putting this together. Good job

I'm sorry, but I'm just curious. People all over America for the longest time have done nothing but complain and rant about policies and taxes and the loss of constitutional soverignty and rightly so, I'm with you on this one. My only problem is understanding how working people conglomerating peacefully in the streets their worst nightmare. I am not trying to be antagonistic here, but I am just curious as to why they would be so scared of peaceful protests. Why would a government who would go to other countries and kill indiscriminately, waterboard people, let the police and military harass the very people who picket in the streets (harass them in their homes), who are ripping up our constitution as we speak and whiping their cans with it, and economically strangling us to the point that we may have to hand our country over to evil men in remuneration for debt...........why would THEY be scared of the average Joe who comes not even with a stick to fight them? Are they to consider us a nightmare because we walk in circles on the front lawn of their businesses when at anytime they wanted they could remove us and send us home? It just seems like yet another illusion of freedom to me. "Let them cry in the streets if it makes them feel they are heard, if they get out of hand then we have an excuse to beat, kill or imprison them. Let them just give us a reason". I really want to hear how picketing peacefully in the streets is supposed to do anything other than create crop circles on their front lawns. Fighting a militarized country such as America with peace is like fighting a bully with your hands tied behind your back with a blindfold on. I really want someone to clarify this with a reasonable working response. I know America and I also know that America has never changed on a scale of this magnitute without violent revolutions where sacrifices had to be epitaphed in the annals of historical chronologies for our future children to study about. This situation is of a magnitude even worse than the reasons for WW1, WW2 and the revolutionary war. We are not fighting for our independence now....we are fighting to keep what little we have left. I guess what I am saying, when these people go home tonight what will they have accomplished? What policies will have changed? They already knew before this pathetic tea party (with Tetley teabags, c'mon) that we were angry. Was this even necessary? Come on teabags? Sorry about the frustration, but this has never changed more than small polices and now, our very country is on the line.

[edit on 16-4-2009 by sinister_scarecrow]

Originally posted by sinister_scarecrow
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I guess what I am saying, when these people go home tonight what will they have accomplished? What policies will have changed? They already knew before this pathetic tea party (with Tetley teabags, c'mon) that we were angry. Was this even necessary? Come on teabags? Sorry about the frustration, but this has never changed more than small polices and now, our very country is on the line.

[edit on 16-4-2009 by sinister_scarecrow]

Everything takes time my friend. See how the wheels turn so slowly. This is another step at real change.

"We ARE The People" is one of many signs that I saw in St. Paul MN when I went to the MN state capitol. Albeit, not as flamboyant as the one in Austin TX.

If you keep turning the other cheek to an enemy they'll keep slapping you down. This is what Japan feared after their attack of Pearl Harbor. The sleeping giant has awoken.

It should be very clear to the powers that be that this movement will not relent.

Notice now that even more big names are stepping up. I was waiting for Ted Nuggent to pipe up. Now the Gov. of TX. There will be many more.

One of them will grab a banner and carry it. We're just waiting for the right one.

Would that Obama would have been the one to slap down the lobbyists and special interests; hired people that pay their taxes and follow the rules.

Soon... These are baby steps, baby steps.

Originally posted by sinister_scarecrow
Again, I respect all Americans and you and am respectfully just trying to envision how this actually helps without proving to be yet another illusion of freedom.

Is your freedom of speech an illusion? They are trying to get the death penalty in other country for anti-gov't. blogs (?).

I would give my life for my countrymen, but not for an illusion.

Personally, I don't believe you for a nanosecond.

The real problem is that the "hidden ones who pull the strings" also want a revolutionary change, only in the form of the New World Order. They place their chess pieces carefully and with the finesse of Kasparov himself and they are willing to pay top dollar to traitors willing to sell out their countrymen for selfish desires. They will kill and torcher and oppress indiscriminately to get their desired result.

Ok, so, metaphorically speaking... since you went there... I'll quote a fantasy sci-fi movie ...
"It's not wise to upset a wookie."
"No one ever worries about upsetting a droid."
"Because droids don't rip peoples arms outta their sockets!"

Metaphorically speaking, of course.

What are we willing to do to keep what we have as opposed to walking in circles with signs? Our very foundation of law says we have the right to bear arms (Amendment 2 - 1791), where are they? The government weilds theirs daily in our houses taking our guns away. The executive orders are already in place to take our only defence away, why do you think this is? Because peace to them is a joke. History and life proves that a bully is doing his thing, he continues to do it to those who will not fight back, are they not just bullying us? It is not threatening to them, and to think that anything will change as a result of it is yet another illusion, that is why it is allowed. Do you not agree?

Wow, If I read your post with the hisses of a snake ... it would be positively sssssscarie.
I won't asssssk the obvious of you.

Wow... that's an amazing turn out.. 3,500 peoples, thats far more that what I thought would turn out at any of these rallies.. I am sad I couldn't have been there..

Remember folks, dissent and rallying against the power was only cool when Bush was in power. Now that some of the hacks got their kool-aid supplier in office, dissenters should shut up, and praise the messiah!

/Sarcasm off


Yesterday was a great turnout across the nation. It's a start. The MSM and politicians who ignore/mock/belittle these rallies would be wise to listen and pay attention to these demonstrations, as anger has reached a high pitch, and will only get louder if the people's voices are not heard.

The above three posts are villianous and insipid.

Tentikles: you keep it up!! Your thread is interesting and invigorating. There is worthy debate going on in this thread body as well. All of it is respectful.

Peace.