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posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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Now Pro-Life Advocates are potential terrorists


www.washingtontimes.com

"It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says.
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posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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As reported by the Washington Times, the Department of Homeland Security issued a warning to law enforcement agencies about the potential threats from “right wing extremists”. But it’s frightening to see who they consider “right wing extremists” to be.
They are those of us who believe:
That all life born and unborn should be protected under the constitution
That we have a right to own arms under the 2nd amendment
That current immigration laws should be enforced

Somehow we, traditional Americans, who make up over half of the country’s population, that we are to be thrown into a pile of potential terrorists, shows the bias the current administration has towards middle America.

The icing on the cake is the implication of those who may disagree with the president being racist. Wow, the low blows this administration will deal out to silence those who may think differently from them is scary to say the least.

I called my state senators this morning, finding out of course that they have nothing to say about the matter.
I’m afraid this memo to law enforcement agencies will just get by under the radar, and the slow decent into socialism will continue.

"In Germany, they came first for the Communists,
And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists,
And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews,
And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . .
And by that time there was no one left to speak up."
Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)


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posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 11:27 AM
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Since my repeated attempts for people to stop perpetuating this garbage have gone on deaf ears. I will now simply post a video that everyone should watch.





posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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Sadly, the pro-life (or anti-abortion) movement has earned the distrust of government agencies because they have attempted to justify acts of violence.

Violence, even against the cause of violence, is still violence.

The government reserves the right to use violence. People - regardless of their beliefs - are NOT allowed to use violence.

Except as outlined in the Constitution - and they are hard at work trying to eradicate even that provision.


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posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 11:38 AM
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having been a PP clinic escort myself Ive seen these people first hand and many do fit the lable. Im sorry but if the shoe fits then you put that sucker on.

Operation Rescue engaged in stalking, death threats, violence, and destruction. Sounds like a terrorist organization to me. Earth First get the lable too. Same extremism we decry in Al Queada just these guys are not Arabs



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by FredT
having been a PP clinic escort myself Ive seen these people first hand and many do fit the lable. Im sorry but if the shoe fits then you put that sucker on.

Operation Rescue engaged in stalking, death threats, violence, and destruction. Sounds like a terrorist organization to me. Earth First get the lable too. Same extremism we decry in Al Queada just these guys are not Arabs


But, but, but . . . Operation Rescue was run by good Christian fundamentalists. Surely no Christian would advocate violence?


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posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by Rockstrongo37



Somehow we, traditional Americans, who make up over half of the country’s population, that we are to be thrown into a pile of potential terrorists, shows the bias the current administration has towards middle America.


So to be a "traditional american" you have to be anti-abortion? This is new to me. I always thought the idea of a traditional american was one who pursued life, liberty and happiness...now you tell me THERE IS A SPECIFIC LINE OF THINKING I HAVE TO PERSCRIBE TO TO BE A TRADITIONAL AMERICAN? Crap. Really wish someone had said something sooner.



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 11:55 AM
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I think the distinction that needs to be made here is that there is no Orwellian conspiracy against "thought crimes"---you have the right to think whatever you want to, pro-choice or anti-choice, what-have-you. If you express an intent to harm someone who works to assist women in their choice (whether you believe it is right or not) that's a problem. As far as those who are really into gun rights and immigration...it's the same, you have the right to think any way you want. I'm not going to make it seem all rosy though, because I would bet if you went to a rally or demonstration on any of these issues, you'd probably get placed on a "list"



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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I agree. Anti-abortion activists have resorted to terrorism in no uncertain terms on several occasions, bombings, murders, threats, etc. Any issue that is religiously motivated and whips people into that kind of rage has huge potential to spur terrorist acts. The shoe definitely fits.



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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I’m amazed at the total lack of ignorance in the responses given so far. The few violent acts given by a few maniacs somehow give you the impression that all pro-life not “anti-choice” supporters are violent is disheartening to say the least. I would remind you that the few, and I stress few acts of violence over the last 40 years have been harshly condemned by the Christian community, unlike the terroristic acts of the radical Muslim terrorists from their moderate leaders.
It’s always shocking to me that when people give a response to what is a clear and pointed attack on the silent majorities opinion, that those responses can’t deal with in this case “the constitutionality” of the issue but instead only focuses on a personal hatred of the beliefs “of in this case” those who truly believe that ALL life is sacred, both born and unborn.
My posting here wasn’t to argue the issue of abortion, but the classification of pro-life supporters as potential terrorists. Please get past your personal bias and hatred before responding in an emotional way.



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:38 PM
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I must correct the first line of my response from lack of "ignorance" to lack of intelligence.
Thank you



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:40 PM
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Hey, listen -- there is NOTHING MORE VIOLENT than to go in a mother's womb and rip off the arms and lets, twist off the head of an innocent little human baby, to pull the pieces out and throw them in the garbage. Now THAT is violent.

Or to pull a baby out by the legs, stick scissors in the back of the skull, open up the scissors, stick a tube in and suck out the brains. That's pretty darned violent too, I'd say. Pretty barbaric.

This is why we have FEMA camps built and plastic coffins stacked up waiting, empty train cars waiting to cart us off to the death camps, why trillions of dollars in our Treasury was just sucked out of hte country into a bank in Tel Aviv, where we will never see a penny of it.

Because we are a nation of barbarians, who think knocking down a building of bricks is violent, but that killing human babies in their mothers womb is no biggie.

Barbarians, America the land of barbarians. This is why we all know in our hearts it's no good to pray for mercy for our nation because the nation has no mercy, not even for our own most innocent and helpless.

We kill 1,500,000 preborn babies every single year, and have been doing so since 1973.



[edit on 15-4-2009 by Salt of the Earth]



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
Hey, listen -- there is NOTHING MORE VIOLENT than to go in a mother's womb and rip off the arms and lets, twist off the head of an innocent little human baby, to pull the pieces out and throw them in the garbage. Now THAT is violent.

Or to pull a baby out by the legs, stick scissors in the back of the skull, open up the scissors, stick a tube in and suck out the brains. That's pretty darned violent too, I'd say. Pretty barbaric.

Ahh yes, another example of emotion over logic. This thread is not about pro- or anti-choice. Take your rhetoric and fascism elsewhere.



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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What is more fascist than the threat of the prosecution of those who believe in the sanctity of life for the unborn?


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posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
Hey, listen -- there is NOTHING MORE VIOLENT than to go in a mother's womb and rip off the arms and lets, twist off the head of an innocent little human baby, to pull the pieces out and throw them in the garbage. Now THAT is violent.


oooooooo are you going to throw some virtual blood on me now? Thankfull this type of of extremism saw its zenith when the religious right pissed away any credability it had with the whole Terri Schavio mess.

Im sorry but this type of strawman argument I know plays well with the Sara Palin crowd but your going to have to do a bit better than that :shk:

But if you must I suppose that its every bit as violent as the coathanger eh? Hey if you want to strawman I can play too.



This is why we have FEMA camps built and plastic coffins stacked up waiting, empty train cars waiting to cart us off to the death camps, why trillions of dollars in our Treasury was just sucked out of hte country into a bank in Tel Aviv, where we will never see a penny of it.


So pro choice are people involved with the NWO? What are we saving camp space with all those obortions? Are we going anit semetic now as well int he thread?

[edit on 4/15/09 by FredT]

[edit on 4/15/09 by FredT]



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by Rockstrongo37
What is more fascist than the threat of the prosecution of those who believe in the sanctity of life for the unborn?


How exactly have you been persecuted? I am unaware of any organized Planned Parenthood gangs that go about throwing coathangers at the those who would legislate a woman body. Or worse bomb Operation Rescue type organizations and assasinate clinic protestors.



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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Lets get away from this distraction and get back to the subject. The subject is the pointed actions taken by a government to silence the masses who my feel differently about issues.



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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Tomato, Tomatoe....

Depending on what side of an issue you are on, you will use different wording-

example: Pro-choice or Pro-Abortion, these are supposedly the same things but only one side will use one and vice versa

Pro-life or Anti-choice, again supposedly the same thing but used specifically by one side or the other.....

Now these phrases DO NOT mean the same thing and people will hash it out over which wording is better---which is ridiculous, if you know where YOU stand who cares?

AND it is true this should not be a debate over abortion, but if you (OP) are going to get over-irrational over word choice, I must come to the conclusion that you must be anti-word choice



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by FredT
having been a PP clinic escort myself Ive seen these people first hand and many do fit the lable. Im sorry but if the shoe fits then you put that sucker on.

Operation Rescue engaged in stalking, death threats, violence, and destruction. Sounds like a terrorist organization to me. Earth First get the lable too. Same extremism we decry in Al Queada just these guys are not Arabs


Being the step-daughter of a well known Operation Rescue leader, and having been forced to block clinic doors when I was 13 years old, I'd tend to agree with you.

As for the OP, I'd tend to think that the report is not calling ALL Pro-life people "right wing extremists". I'd tend to think they are speaking specifically of the individual pro-lifers or groups of pro-lifers such as Operation Resuce or Army of God that do participate in extreme activities that result in violence and death of those that they disagree with. I'd say Paul Hill was a "right wing extremist" who would fall under that category. There's really no denying that, is there?



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:55 PM
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I'll boil it down for you as to who the current administration considers a 'potential terrorist'.

Anybody who opposes their plans and agendas.

Now wasn't that simple?






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