I haven't been on ATS recently and I just found out about this. I don't have much time, but let me point out a couple of things.
First, Frankinmouse, good job at trying to find a similarity on the Wedding Cake UFO. Unfortunately, you didn't look very closely.
Here are the two images:
Please look at your "smoking gun" that shows what you claim is the same object as the adjustable shelf pin. Now, look at the bottom row of spheres
and count counter-clockwise. Where the third sphere should be there is a gap. The row of spheres is not continuous. Now look at the other image
showing the adjustable shelf pin that is laying on top of the second tier. Look at the bottom row of spheres and count counter-clockwise. Do you see
a gap in the spheres? No, you don't. I don't know what the object is that you are pointing to, but it most definitely is not the same object that
I have identified as an adjustable shelf pin because it is in an entirely different area of the Wedding Cake UFO.
Next, Indigo_Child, regarding Marcel Vogel using a scanning electron microscope to apparently discover Thulium in Meier's metal sample. It seems as
though you did not read the footnotes on my report on the metal: www.iigwest.org...
Here is an excerpt:
"Page 57 of the 1983 book UFO…Contact From The Pleiades Volume II states the following:
The next challenge was to find an expert in optical and electron microscope study techniques (microscrophy) [sic] who was familiar with various levels
of scientific knowledge in crystal and metal technology. The search had its frustrations. But eventually a man of eminent qualifications was found,
Marcel Vogel, a senior scientist with a major industrial research center."
"Pages 199 and 200 of the 1987 book Light Years: An Investigation Into The Extraterrestrial Experiences Of Eduard Meier state the following:
Before the golden-silver triangle had disappeared from the possession of Marcel Vogel, the IBM scientist had placed it under his $250,000 scanning
electron microscope and turned on a video tape to record his findings. The tiny specimen held very pure silver, and 'very, very pure' aluminum, plus
potassium, calcium, chromium, copper, argon, bromium [sic], chlorine, iron, sulphur [sic], and silicon. One microscopic area revealed 'an enormous
mélange of almost all of the elements in the periodic table.' And each was exceedingly pure."
"Pages 215 and 216 of the 2001 book And Yet…They Fly! state the following:
In one small area in the middle of the sample (blown up five hundred times), he found two parallel grooves joined by furrows, precise hairlines
somehow micro-machined into the metal. But even more surprising to him was that the major element present in that small area was the rare-Earth metal
It should be very plain to see that it was actually Marcel Vogel himself who said that he used a scanning electron microscope to determine the
composition of the Meier metal sample. It is, of course, impossible to determine the composition of an object using magnification, no matter how
great the magnification.
Also, please remember that Marcel Vogel was a chemist and not a metallurgist and his metallurgical analysis is therefore useless. An actual
metallurgist did examine the Meier metal with a mass-spectrometer and found "We have little marker bars here that we can line up on each peak as they
come up. This one indicates that we have silver there. Over here, let's see, we've got some copper. A small amount of copper. That looks about all
that's in here at the moment."
So, a real metallurgist using the proper equipment finds nothing extraordinary about the Meier metal sample and a non-metallurgist using the incorrect
equipment finds something extraordinary about the Meier metal sample. Who are we supposed to believe again?