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Originally posted by Kruel
I'm with the OP. If infinity could be achieved that would imply that it has a limit. Infinity exists as an idea. In reality only potential infinity exists. Numbers don't lie. All our "infinite numbers" are just approximations.
Originally posted by OmegaPoint
If the universe is bounded, and caustion or time is real, and if there was a beginning, then presumably, there is also an ending. Also, if the sum total causation of the universe may be thought of in terms of a construct composed of information, and an "arrow of progress" discerned in the emergence of increasing complexity or order in chaos, then by logical extension, the universe is going somewhere, and is being led to a final state, even for a reason, and a purpose, since progression implies progress, and progress can only be progressive if it progresses in relation to an idea of perfection.
Consider this idea, known as the "Omega Point" hypothesis (no relation to my monicur, which was inspired by Pierre de Chardin).
And according to Ilya Prigogine, the Nobel Prize winner for his work regarding complex systems, the universe MUST be an OPEN SYSTEM
The entropy in other words is being bled from the system, in order for complexity to increase.
And from what I've read, there are only 3 possible outcomes of the quantum description
2) Transluminal Interconnectedness
3) Multiworlds Theory
[edit on 17-4-2009 by OmegaPoint]
IMHO infinity is real. I can't imagine a border where reality meets nothing.
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by tobiascore
Mighty fine verbal sandcastle you have constructed. Now shall we try to semanticly prove that I am in fact not a human but a housecat?
Pi has no known end.
Originally posted by tobiascore
No amount of time is = to ANY fraction of infinity. Yet, here we are, living in a logical system. It makes sense. Infinity is incompatible with logic.
Originally posted by AstyanaxPi has a finite value. It can be precisely defined as the ratio of a circle in two dimensions to its diameter.
You can't write this value down accurately in decimal notation but that does not make it infinite. You could construct a perfectly meaningful base Π arithmetic if you wanted, because Π is a finite quantity. There are no infinite quantities in nature.
[edit on 17/4/09 by Astyanax]
There are no infinite quantities in nature.
Originally posted by constantwonder
heres a lil clip for the video time trip in which they talk about the possibilty that reality is virtual and they discuss the probability that our world is virtual. Infinity rears its head again as a computer would have to be able to process an infinite amount of data to emulate a perfect version of the "real world"
the idea was chamiponed by the late Frank Tippler as well as Nick Bostrom of Oxford University
[edit on 17-4-2009 by constantwonder]