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UFO's a new approach

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posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 11:38 PM
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I am tired.

I have been observing the UFO field for 30 plus years.

I have had personal wakeing abduction experances myself & with groups over the years. One group abduction during my enlistment in the military & I have mutable abductions since.

As a Electronic Technician on the inside looking out.
I see no serious "Public" Technical approach.

People argue about form.
Well hell create one.

An agree'ed format should be created.

Technical readings should be taken.
Formal abductee interviews & debriefing's should be created.
I had the need for instruments & just ran into walls.
Existing foundations should be called out on the carpet.
In effect # or get off the pot.

Refuse to look backward.
The past is just used to distract the current events takeing place.
However the past should not be forgotten for safety sake.

I do not want to hear about Mufon or Bluebook again or I am going to Puke.
Mufon has been around long enough to have this in the box by now.
I acknowledge Mufons help in my case.
I owe my family to them.
I however think that the tactics that they use have been subverted.
It has become bluebook with public funding.

As an abductee I have gathered evidence personally just to see it whisked away.
As an abductee I endeavored to have active interaction with the abductors.
They over time they have given me more slack.

You need to understand that many of the Races have fooled themselves into the thought that they are above emotion. Believe me they do respect office and have no remorse in reinforcing respect. I learned this painfully first hand.

I encountered "one" Race that is truly above emotion.
In my contact with them.
They used us to experience emotion threw us.
I see the interaction as someone that would use a drug.

We are coming into the adolescence of this world's interactions with the UFO.
We can go the way of the Native American's.
Or
We can learn from our past & step up to the plate.

I really believe we are running out of time.
They are here & the rent is due..........

Posted with Hope - Watcher




posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 12:22 AM
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Powerful post. Star and flagged. I agree that institutions can become staid and impotent in time and so, at times, new ones have to be created. I also agree that proper investigation is painfully long past due. Hopefully, in time you will share more of your experiences and suggestions with us.



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 02:53 AM
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Good show old man..
Have you any thoughts in relation to organisation? a team approach or an individual approach? Here is my thought:
Organise teams of people. No psychics or what have you.. too willing to tell people what they want to hear instead of the truth.

For interpersonal interaction you would want:
Psychologist ( Preferably one that is a bit skeptical as one that is zealous could be OVER zelous, and specialising in hypnosis for obvious reasons)
A journalist to record, by everymeans, what is taking place and what is being stated by the parties involved and the psychologist.
A PR person to introduce everyone and get a general story to let the rest of the team know a. of time.
You would want a tech geek for readings, who is not afraid to use infrared thermal imaging on the person telling the story (lie detector without the wires) as we ALL know there ARE those that just want attention, this person will also take readings of the abductees to see if there are trace amounts of radiation, or objects implanted with in them that just shouldnt be there, that sort of thing.

Field work.. Open minded mathematicians that can see patterns in frequency and location of given sightings, type, etc. These people would calculate the frequency of location sightings are made, take technical readings of soil, earth magnetism, and ANY possible phenominon, or anomalous possibilities. You want to make sure the siting was infact a sighting and not methane gas hitting oxygen. (which really does burn).
You also want to make sure the abduction is an actual abduction and not a REALLY vivid dream, or a hallucination, fabrication, or suggestion. This team would also scan the grounds of the supposed abduction site for trace burning, radiation, polarisation of minute particles in home nails, soil, plants, etc.. SCRUTINY can become your best friend.

Grant it this is a rather rough sketch but you can see where the pattern and idea are going. It just seems the harder we look, the less we find. get those that HAVE NO INTEREST in this and let them find what they least expect.



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 02:24 PM
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"Good show old man..
Have you any thoughts in relation to organization? a team approach or an individual approach? Here is my thought:
Organize teams of people. No psychics or what have you.. too willing to tell people what they want to hear instead of the truth."

Response:

I hope this was your attempt at humor.

Mufon collected Leaves from my DECIDUOUS tree in my yard that turned white over night in the summer. They were not deformed. Just paper white.

Dr's removed implants from nasal cavities.

Mufon has access to a pet scanner in Michigan.

Linguists from Univ of the State of Michigan annualized audio tapes.

A Kalamazoo Michigan TV crew's filmed with a UFO with a $150,000 camera.
Not graniy film, crisp close up in focus motion pictures. The TV station that aired it was taken off air for quite a while. There licence was threatoned. They came back on air with new management. The 911 tapes are still avaliable that cornical the police & air traffic control as they followed the object.

Mufons responce :

No return reports.

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Mufon showed up with a "literal" cracker jack campus to investigate one of the sites while a local TV film crew documented them while walking around asking questions.

Nationaly Mufon partnered with the National Enquirier.

So drop the sarcasm, pick up your once of courage then step into the frey.
I see you have a good background with the statement that followed in the rest of the post.

Ask yourself where are the results?
Funneled to government?
Debunked?

There are patterns. Are they seasonal, celestial, or something else?

We are starting to see the cattle mutilations again.
They were rampant in the 70's.

Some of us have material annalists experience.
Some of us have personal interaction skills.
Some of us have conforting skills.
Some of us just want to confront the truth.

Placing an abductee into a safe bubble may fix the imunent situation.
Buy there house - Let them flee.
But what is happening to the data?

It must be massive.
All I have seen is a yearly Ra Ra for the troops.
Not a true analysis of the data allowing us to come to conclusions.
I am encouraged that this is what this site is for.
Not just snipe'ing at one another.

If we are in the inside of Mufon step out and ask questions.
Change can come from within.

If we are in the abductee community insist on a response.
Be willing to speak out.

In one of my encounters there were 8 or so of us together.
In Mexico, the SW United States, Florida, European there have been acknoleged group encounters.

In the Military there have been innumerable group encounters.
The Military personnel that monitored Radar alone have overwhelming numbers. Where are the Clean up teams?

These people exzist. Step out.
Your nation. Your world needs you.
Wake up! Its time.

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posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 02:25 AM
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I also had a nasal implant,mine came out on its own.You should have your left calf x-rayed and look up the Jesse Long case he was also implanted in his calf.I have spoken to Stanton Friedman and others about my event and as soon as I "know"they run into info that scares, them they pull away.

I think some of the more prominent researchers enjoy their health and know which cases to avoid because they are aware that others will notice the real ones.

The cattle mutilations are part of the abduction implant event,google human bovine molecular dna compatability edmonton,snoop around and you will have your mind blown.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 02:28 AM
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Read Canadians abducted by humans in blue uniforms sound off in the grey area,it will help.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by one4all
You should have your left calf x-rayed and look up the Jesse Long case he was also implanted in his calf.


As you know though one4all, there really isn't much to the Jesse Long Case.

I do agree with the OP however that a standard should be set within the community to catalogue to document these things.

Obviously the 'alien' nature thing means there would have to be some leeway as we don't know enough about it all - but standards none-the-least.

-m0r



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 02:33 AM
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Well put sir. Do you have any abduction stories you can share with us? Those are always cool to read.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 03:40 AM
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There really isnt much to the Jesse Long case unless his story has commonalities with your story AND YOU STILL HAPPEN TO HAVE AN IMPLANT IN YOUR CALF LIKE I DO,then suddenly there is something to the Jesse Long case.When you researched the case did you happen to see the picture of Jesse with his brother when he was ten?If you did did you see the scoop shaped scar on his left shin?If you didnt look again because I surely saw it ,then absorb the fact that I have an Identical scar on my left shin.

none of us seem to get everything right but there is no denying that the fact that we had events combined with matching physical scars in the exact same places and I dont only refer to Jesse and myself here ,there are others as well.

I also had an implant come out of my nasal passage as a kid and my friends I SAW IT AND I TOUCHED IT AND I SQUEEZED IT BETWEEN MY FINGERS, THEN I WIPED IT ON THE BLOODY SHEET,BUT BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AT SEVEN YEARS OLD what the hell else would I have done with it?I was more worried about all of the blood on my face and my pillow and bed and all the trouble I would get in when my mom saw the mess.

Yea,there is something to the Jesse Long case all right,and for future reference,not to hamper any efforts,lets come to some type of understanding about how easy it is to change and fabricate records and really just about anything if money isnt a problem.

What may have at one time been a trail we could follow could VERY easily today be COVERED UP COMPLETELY OR SO TWISTED AND CONVOLUTED THAT WE WOULDNT BE INCLINED TO BELIEVE IT.

Somehow I dont think the picture was altered and it surely wasnt covered up,probably because no one would have thought to "fix it" unless they anticipated me or someone else claiming to have had a similar implant.

I have had my life interfered with to degrees that you would not believe,degrees that have eclipsed law enforcement and the criminal and civil court system,I have had medical reports altered and have had several LARGE CORPORATE INTERESTS co-operate together to undermine my medical diagnosis and treatment.

I feel that the absolute best resource is the people themselves NOT THE VERIFIABLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION because this can all be doctored and if you dont believe that ANY LEVEL OF POWER OR GOVERNMENT CAN BE USED TO UNDERMINE YOU then you are simply kidding yourself.So once again there may just really be something to the Jesse Long case.

Look we found a good starting point,why dont we make the first resolution one that says we have to accept all eyewitness reports as being 100% valid bar none,you see we have been doing it backwards,we have been recieving these accounts as if they were NOT REAL and then seeking surrounding evidence EXCLUSIVE OF THE ACTUAL HUMAN WITNESS.We are in essence beginning a process of covering up the event by discrediting our star witness at the beginning of the trial.First we believe then we find evidence to support based on the witnesses account,get real the cops dont go looking for a white guy in a black suit when the witness reported a BLACK GUY IN A WHITE SUIT.



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by one4all
So once again there may just really be something to the Jesse Long case.


I really hope there is - I mean it's a pretty sweet blow to non-believers if it's true. But hope is all I've got, and even that is low.

Verifiable, quantifiable and repeatable information is what I'm looking for - and so far the Jesse Long case does not have it.

This isn't to say that you one4all haven't got something in your leg that is ET in origin. You may very well have. However until we can extract it under neutral conditions and examine it in the same light we have no proof.

I'm not putting you down for not having it done yet. You may want to keep it or maybe don't have the funds to extract it.

I'm just trying to analyse the Jesse Long case as best I can with what I have.

Best of luck to you!

-m0r



posted on Jun, 3 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by n120by60w
Mufon collected Leaves from my DECIDUOUS tree in my yard that turned white over night in the summer. They were not deformed. Just paper white.


I found this here:

"The Nazi super scientists placed animals, plants and insects nearby the Bell during testing. A strange crystalline substance invaded animal tissue, destroying life. Plants thus exposed lost all their chlorophyll, turning deathly white in several hours. Refinements of the equipment was made and it's lethality diminished. Despite protective clothing, five of the seven scientists involved later died from ailments involving sleep problems, metallic taste in the mouth, nerve spasms and loss of memory and balance."

SOURCE: discaircraft.greyfalcon.us...



posted on Jun, 7 2009 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by DJM8507

Originally posted by n120by60w
Mufon collected Leaves from my DECIDUOUS tree in my yard that turned white over night in the summer. They were not deformed. Just paper white.


I found this here:

"The Nazi super scientists placed animals, plants and insects nearby the Bell during testing. A strange crystalline substance invaded animal tissue, destroying life. Plants thus exposed lost all their chlorophyll, turning deathly white in several hours. Refinements of the equipment was made and it's lethality diminished. Despite protective clothing, five of the seven scientists involved later died from ailments involving sleep problems, metallic taste in the mouth, nerve spasms and loss of memory and balance."

SOURCE: discaircraft.greyfalcon.us...


OMG

Durring an awake abduction exericance my wife & I had togeather.
A black 1' orb passed threw the room with a pirple like lighting flowing around it. The entire house was lit by a strange blue green light. It came from within the lit objects. The walls, blinds the floor. We looked out the window blinds & our entire yard was lit by the same strange light.

I fought off a 1/8" Yellow clear amber substance that lined my nasel passages & my eye tear ducts.
My lungs were also effected.
It took me a month to recover.
It darn near killed me.

Well enough about that.....

The Bell Effects are new to me.
I thought they were simply Cerenkov Radiation....

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