Recession fueling right-wing extremism, U.S. says, page 3
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reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 03:53 PM by N3krostatic
reply to post by thisguyrighthere



Quite interesting. I was thinking of adding a foldable stock and pistol grip to my mossberg. I also want a synthetic stock on my SKS with a scope and bipod. And then I'll just leave my .357 magnum like it is.

Well I'm not giving up my arsenal just yet since I can effectively take out an entire army with my 30 round magazine and my 12 gauge.

This is the state in which we have arrived. They can have my arsenal when they pry it from my cold dead fingers!

You pointed out a good way in which information is tweaked.


reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 04:00 PM by dooper
reply to post by earlywatcher


They better fear veterans.

They damned for certain better fear combat veterans, as nothing will piss off a good man who has sworn an oath to the Constitution, and laid it all out on the line - his very life - his very existence - just for some swishy-tailed pinko liberals to chunk it all down the drain?

I personally find this report by the DHS very offensive, and offensive in so many ways. They lump white supremists with veterans, with Tim McVeigh, with gun owners, with potential homeland terrorists. Read: counter liberals. If you aren't embracing the Annointed One and Nancy Pelosi, then you're an enemy of theirs.

As far as gun ownership and ammo purchases?

Exactly what do these idiots think the Second Amendment was all about? Squirrel hunting?

It was to enable the citizens to shuck any government that violated the Constitution.


reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 05:03 PM by Hemisphere
Thanks for posting this MB. I agree with some here that have said that this started in the Bush administration. I go one step further. I think this is more proof that we don't have a two party system. We have a shadow government with a long range, worldwide agenda that gets plenty of discussion on this site. This is also why the Ralph Naders and Bob Barrs have been reduced to punch lines. I compare this systematic erosion of our privacy and individual rights to a wrestling tag-team match where we're being held down by one thug while the other drops on us from the top rope.

My contention is that the match is just starting. We will be governed once again by an out of control Republican administration following Obama. Note that I said "Republican" and not conservative. The current Republicans are anything but conservative in their actions and policies as evidenced by the eight years of Bush Jr. My opinion is that Obama will only serve one term. That is why we see him rapidly replacing the Bush Doctrine with the Soros Doctrine. Soros is widely suspected as the primary source of funding for the Obama candidacy.


"I have made rejection of the Bush doctrine the central project of my life."
- George Soros, Wall Street Journal; March 3, 2004

And don't for a moment think that the Bushes and Soros are not on the same team. The rhetoric and bickering allows both sides to rob us blind. Consider that we've heard that both Warren Buffett and Bill Gates, both liberal backers, lost huge sums in the current recession. There is no such news regarding Soros or the Bushes for that matter.

So, we have this flurry of executive orders, bailouts and controversial appointments that challenge the Bush cabinet for most unsettling, unqualified and un-American. Why so much, so soon? That's how you choke out the middle class as though were in an MMA fight. The economy will not be allowed to recover. "We the sheeple" will be begging for an alternative in four years, almost anyone will do and we'll wind up with a tyrant.

I would like to throw out two improbable but possible scenarios. My favorite off-the-wall theory is "President Schwarzenegger". The fact that he was not born in the US will not stand in his way, we’ll have only shreds of the Constitution left at that point. Arnold is positioning himself as a "moderate Republican" and if you have noticed has been an avid Obama supporter as evidenced on Meet the Press. He is also sopping up the stimulus funds from Obama. Check out the Gubernator’s website and judge for yourself whether he is positioning for a presidential candidacy. Does “married to the Kennedys” ring a conspiratorial bell with anyone?

Arnold's Place

If that doesn’t grab you, how about swinging the political gate hard right to keep us in a maelstrom of shifting policies. I’m thinking the “surge” worked just well enough to allow David Petraeus to run against Obama. Somebody’s got a website up and running for the general.

GDP

General David Petraeus, GDP, nice coincidence, eh? An interesting tidbit I found on whois was that this site was registered on September 11, 2007. Ooooooooooo!!! This guy would be the perfect NWO tyrant to follow Hope and Change Barry. But I digress...


reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 05:08 PM by chise61
reply to post by Avenginggecko



The probability that someone is an extremist, or will become an extremist is not any greater because a person stockpiles weapons or ammo, extremism has nothing to do with how many weapons you may or may not have, but rather with your frame of mind.

The right wing extremist label has become more popular now because people are fed up with what's going on in this country and are now voicing their opinions and concerns more often than not, and by labeling anyone that seems to be against anything the government is doing it makes it that much easier for them to say these people are a threat and have legitimate reason to target them.

When i say that it seems as though anyone that believes in the constitution of these United States and the core beliefs that founded this country are all too quickly labeled as "right wing extremist" lately that is exactly what i mean, no more, no less. I in no way implied that my beliefs were the only constitutionally valid beliefs. And by the way i don't believe that my beliefs fall solely on the right, my son quite often calls me a tree hugger, If anything i'm probably more of a libertarian.

A government that attempts to systematically strip it's citizens of their constitutional rights, and the country of it's core fundemental beliefs is anti-American. If you don't believe that big government is anti-American that is your right, however this country was not designed to be controlled by one big government, so yes if the government is overstepping it's bounds and not keeping with the fundementals of the founding of this country then it is anti-American as it goes against the very core of the founding of this country.

I believe that i said that, more people are starting to open their eyes, and yes as time goes on more people are becoming enlightened to what a tyrannical government this has become. The only way that this could be dangerous to the government is if it is true. If the government has not become tyrannical it will listen to the people, find out why they are so upset, what needs to be done to make the people trust their government again, and do it. They do after all work for us, and their job is to represent us, to be our voice, which they have not done for a very long time.

Have they done that, no they have not, instead they have chosen to label anyone that is unhappy with the state of this country as a "right wing extremist". If we were on a ship we would be the captain and the government would be the crew and what they are doing would be mutiny. Go into to work tomorrow and you and your coworkers just start changing company policy, see how far you get because the owners of the company don't work for you, you work for them and it is not your place to usurp their authority, you have a right to suggest, but not to overtake. What they are trying to suggest with their labeling is that these people are a threat and may try to overthrow this country, when in fact it is they that are attempting to do that.

Well, i'm sorry to say but, "this government" has been trampling on our rights way before the elections of 2000.

I was born in 61' and i have seen this country dramatically change, i'm sure that there are members here that are older and seen more, and i've had my fill of it.

I am a law abiding citizen (apparently we are now a danger also) not an extremist, i was raised to love and be patriotic to my country, as i raised my sons to be the same, and i'll be damned if i'm expected to sit quietly by while the people that are supposed to be my voice, label me as a threat and "right wing extremist" because i speak my mind about my country, we have yet to become communistic.

I will not be patriotic to a government, especially one that allows it's members to state that our second amendment will not get in their way, and that illegal immigrants are patriotic as they break our laws (as if we are not patriotic) and systematically tries to strip our rights away one by one.

I will continue to be patriotic to my country, as it should be and i will not apoligize for it, if that means that i am labeled a "right wing extremist" then so be it. I'm sure that our founding fathers, if here now, would also be labeled as such, so i will take that label proudly as it means that i am in very good company.



Edited to add; And if you listen very closely, you will hear that not everyone complaining is on the right, people on the left , and in the middle are complaining also. This is all just nonsense they've got us all talking to each other like we're a bunch of damn gangbangers or something walking around with our hats cocked to the right or the left, trying to force us to pick one side over the other, exactly what they want instead of a nation united, we're becoming a nation divided, makes it easier for them.



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reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 09:06 PM by chise61
reply to post by BornPatriot



He went to the University of Chicago. So if he thinks they're using his thesis why didn't he say something a long time ago?

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reply posted on 15-4-2009 @ 09:41 PM by chise61
reply to post by BornPatriot



Ok strike my previous question, i found the interview and see that's it's from 2004, and the claim that he is making is for a court case.
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