2012 - Searching for all FACTS - No Speculation Please, page 2
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reply posted on 17-4-2009 @ 06:24 AM by squiz
Here's a fact, a reference to the prophecy can be found on a monument in Tortuguero.

Sven Gronemeyer, University of Bonn (Germany), traced the drawing of the closing section. Dr. David Stuart, University of Texas at Austin, made a preliminary and full reading with translation:


…(long ago) it happened, the day Eight Chuwen, the ninth of Mak
when the Becoming-Ripe-House was constructed(?).
It was the ‘underground house’ (shrine) of (the god) Ahkal K’uk’.
It was two and nine-score days, three years, eight-score years and 3 x 400 years
(before) the Thirteenth Bak’tun will end
on Four Ajaw, the third of Uniiw,
when ..?.. it will occur…?,
the descent..?.. of B’olon Yookte’ at ..?..


pakalahau.wordpress.com...

Make of it what you will.

Astronomically speaking, the sun has been extremely close to galactic centre for decades now, it actually reached it's closest point in 1998.
But there is something special that happens that day in the sky over southern Mexico, that may have great relevance to the Mayan mythology.

On solstice 2012 the Sun, a few hours before dawn begins to edge it's way onto the galactic plane, it reaches midpoint at 11:11 as we all know, and completes the crossing of the galactic plane minutes before sunset.
It all happens during one day over southern Mexico. It's really all symbolic, but perhaps no less important.

It seems to me they where measuring precession. Like all the ancient mystery schools, precession is key it seems.

Anyway it's all fun, and occasionally shift happens.


reply posted on 18-4-2009 @ 02:47 PM by azureskys
Stuff that 'is' happening in 2012

January 31 — 433 Eros, the second-largest Near Earth Object on record (size 13x13x33 km) is expected to pass Earth at 0.1790 astronomical units (~26.8 million kilometers; ~16.6 million miles). NASA studied Eros with the NEAR Shoemaker probe launched on 1996-02-17.[3]

May 20 — Annular solar eclipse, a Sunday

June 6 — Second and last solar transit of the planet Venus of this century; the next pair is predicted to occur in 2117 and 2125 (see Transit of Venus, 2012).

November 13 — Total solar eclipse (visible in northern Australia and the South Pacific).
November 28 — Penumbral lunar eclipse

December

December 3 — Jupiter oppositions.
December 21 — The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, notably used by the Maya civilization among others of pre-Columbian Mesoamerica, completes its thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle since the calendar's mythical starting point (equivalent to 3114 BC August 11 in the proleptic Gregorian calendar, according to the "GMT-correlation" JDN= 584283).[7] The Long Count b'ak'tun date of this starting point (13.0.0.0.0) is repeated, for the first time in a span of approximately 5,125 solar years. The significance of this period-ending to the pre-Columbian Maya themselves is unclear, and there is an incomplete inscription (Tortuguero Monument 6) that records this date. It is also to be found carved on the walls of the Temple of Inscriptions in Palenque, where it functions as a base date from which other dates are computed.[8] However, it is conjectured that this may represent in the Maya belief system a transition from the current Creation world into the next
.
The 2012 Winter Solstice will also occur on this day at 11:11 UTC.[9]
What is 11:11?..... Doorways of Destiny
The symbol of 11:11 is a complex symbol having multiple related meanings and purposes.
From the outset, 11:11 is a symbol that announces that a particular change is eminent and
that a new course in your destiny has been prepared.



December 23 — The alternative date for the completion of the thirteenth b'ak'tun cycle in the Maya calendar, using a version of the GMT-correlation based on a JDN of 584285 (a.k.a. the "astronomical" or "Lounsbury correlation"), which is supported by a smaller number of Mayanist researchers.[10]

December 31 — Expiration of the Kyoto Protocol.

Unknown dates in 2012

The United Kingdom will complete a 5-year process to cease analogue television broadcasts region-by-region, with Meridian Broadcasting, ITV London, Tyne Tees Television and UTV being the last areas to switch off analogue.[12]

Australia and Ireland will cease analogue television broadcasts.

NASA's new Orion spacecraft will become fully operational for International Space Station support flights.

China will launch the Kuafu spacecraft

Freedom Tower in New York City: Construction will be finished

The sun will reverse its own magnetic poles during 2012 as result of reaching the end of the current 11-year sunspot cycle.[13]



reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 09:24 PM by LocoHombre
reply to post by KingOfVillains



ok you guys, the maya believed the time around the winter solstice such as 12/21/12 was a time of a new beginning, not the end of the world. you have to remember, this was a civilization that created a highly developed calender, numbering system, and astronomical studying system. they believed their gods came down from their 13 heavens and blessed the world on this day.

the people who came up with this theory are the same ones who came up with the Y2K theory, and you know what, that was false!!! i wonder what they'll do after 12/21/12?!?! they will find out their doomsday theory was wrong, , big shock, and come up with a new doomsday date, because they have nothing to follow religiously anymore.

plus, this gets old after a while so i'll tell you people now, just because i'm 13 does not mean i'm dumb. i speak 5 languages fluently so there (hidatsa, a native american language, spanish, italian, latin and english).

so in short, 2012 will not signal the end of the world, but a new beginning. the mayans did not believe this to be a day of doom, but a beginning of prosperity.

i just got an epiphany! matbe it'll signal the end of the global reccesion!!!


reply posted on 22-4-2009 @ 09:38 PM by C-JEAN
reply to post by KingOfVillains



Hi, KingOfVillains and all 2012 fans.

I have read the answers in these 2 pages, and no reference to the next:

IF you trust Edgar Cayce, then read the Ra material refered to in
my signature. It will OPEN your eyes ! ! B-)

There is no speculation, and no extremely precise dates and/or hours.
It WILL answer MANY important questions of your life !
! ! Believe me ! !
ANd ho ! No religion brain wash either.

Blue skies.


reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 12:56 AM by Stumpy1
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Wow!! I can't believe I wasted 30 minutes of my life scanning though The Ra Material.. What a load of tripe!!!

Although I guess there are some who would love to believe anything.


reply posted on 23-4-2009 @ 08:52 PM by beebs
Sorry if someone already said it, but these will probably help:

David Wilcock and Divine Cosmos - he has written several books documenting the science behind 2012, whether you will accept the science or not.

The big one that will help fill in gaps: OCCULT/HERMETIC PHILOSOPHY/ESOTERIC

Rudolf Steiner
www.rudolfsteinerweb.com...
www.rsarchive.org...

Theosophy
www.theosophy.org...
www.theosophical.org...

Essentially, time is cyclic. That is why 2012 is happening. I'm not sure how to provide that idea as 'fact'. You just have to be convinced of it. This thread was good:

www.abovetopsecret.com...



P.S. To the poster above, Stumpy1, you say you scanned the Ra material in 30 minutes... If I scanned the bible in 30 minutes, or a novel for that matter, do you think I would have been able to write a review, or even take away a message from the material?

[edit on 23-4-2009 by beebs]
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