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Timeline to 2012 by Ivan "Evon" Stein




Topic started on 14-4-2009 @ 07:32 PM by milestogo


Timeline to 2012 by Ivan "Evon" Stein


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This video explores the timeline of events leading up to December 21, 2012. Topics of discussion include: the next Ice Age, Galactic Equator, Mayan Calendar, Future Prophecy, Conscious Evolution, and how to prepare for the upcoming events. This is not all about doom and gloom! The silver lining for the future will be discussed in detail along with what you can do to prepare materially, physically, and consciously. This presentation correlates scientific data with ancient historic records, current events, and prophecy. A Timeline of events between today and Dec. 21, 2012 will be outlined including: Economic Depression, WWIII, North American Union, Martial Law, Mass Chaos, Geophysical Changes, and the New World Consciousness. This is not about Armageddon, but it does involve an understanding of past and future Cataclysmic and Catastrophic events.«
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reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 07:32 PM by milestogo


Hiya ATS
This is my first post so take it easy on me . I have been lurking for a few weeks, I came across the above video today and did an ats search on this guy for more info but came up empty. Anyways I find this to be one of the easiest 2012 theories to understand, they guy does a very good job backing up all of his points. I am just looking for other peoples thoughts on this video and any criticism of it is most welcome

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reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 07:36 PM by milestogo


awww crap, this landed in the wrong forum, my apologies
I meant for it to be in the 2012 area if a mood can fix it that would be great



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reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 07:40 PM by princeofpeace


"next Ice Age, Galactic Equator, Mayan Calendar, Future Prophecy, Conscious Evolution"- All of this is suppose to happen before 2012? LOL well it better get on the ball!!!



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reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 08:32 PM by Republican08


I'm halfway through it, I LOVE IT.

It's all gloom and doom, terror, shock and awe.

He speaks calmly of it though, almost like telling a Nun to walk down the projects and saying, well it might be ok, but you have to walk through them.



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reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 09:17 PM by Evasius


I'm listening to the video now while I work. I'm only 8 minutes in, and what he's said so far is plausible. Isn't it funny how so many people have come up with the same date in our future that is expected to hold important events for mankind.

I want to put forth another idea that parallels Stein's cyclic view of history. If you haven't heard of Terence McKenna, here is some information you might find interesting. I just posted most of this on another thread and felt it was valid here as well.

As we approach 2012, the entire human experience of time, life, existence, etc is speeding up and getting crazier and crazier. Whether higher-ups planned all this, or chaos and complexity are accelerating, I have found one thing about the human experience to be absolutely true: history repeats certain 'themes' via a fractal process. The current theme is revolution.

Cycles of the same 'themes' of experience repeat in the same order over and over throughout human history, however each cycle happens quicker than the one prior. These cycles began as epochs in length, and now they only last a few years. This idea was developed by Terence McKenna and is referred to as Novelty Theory (Timewave Zero). A few other that have put porth similar ideas are Gregg Braden and Jose Arguelles.

See the comparisons below.



We are currently at the end of the 67.29 year cycle (see my signature for the exact location). Here is another image illustrating the spiral overlay contributing to the repetitive nature of our experience.



Below are screenshots from the Timewave program showing our current place on the graph. This first image shows April 17 (the peak we're currently ascending).



I'll now take you back in time to each instance the pattern emerged in history. The first shows our current position is equal to that of 1776 (the American Revolution, founding of the Bavarian Illuminati), hence the theme of 'revolution' and 'upheaval.'



And these take you even further back:





Likewise, this takes you into the future to the next time we experience an even more highly compressed version of now - November 30, 2011.



And the one that follows that is December 20, 2012 (10:08pm):



So as you can see, if this graph does accurately represent the entire historical human experience (which I believe it does - it's all there), then it explains why we percieve things to be so crazy right now. Novelty, chaos, perceptions of change, expectations of change, stress, technological progress, speed of information, communication, awareness - it's all accelerating, and will continue to do so until infinite compression is reached. Once that happens, no one can tell what life will be like. It's beyond our capability of knowing.

Aside from the Mayan long count calendar ending, this I believe is the definitive 2012 prediction. Everything else is on the level of Nostrodamus riddles and scary stories. This is what's happening, and we all feel it.

If you're interested, you can have a look at my thread on the subject: Timewave Zero - a closer look.

Here are a few videos I put together on the subject as well. The first a timelapse sequence of screenshots mapping 2009.


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And here is a little video where McKenna speaks about time acceleration (I uploaded one to ATS Media, but it was a bit jumpy):


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reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 10:26 PM by DJones


I noticed that he doesn't state where he plans on going. Greedy bastard.

I have never seen the Mayan evolution of consciousness before, interesting stuff. Same as what Evasius was talking about.



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reply posted on 4-5-2009 @ 08:47 AM by volitionawareness


finishing the video now -- I appreciate the fact that he's coming from a perspective of spiritual potentialities of enlightenment, without ignoring the current societal events as well as the predictions about the control grid's upcoming moves..

can't seem to find a website or blog on this guy, which is curious.....



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reply posted on 29-5-2009 @ 06:02 AM by pinmov


I have a question for I.Stein...
Shifting pole scenario is in fact magnetism theory (possible happend).... How not anybody tell us why happening with Moon? Is a huge magnet, and magnetic influence I believe is important, and also position arround the Earth... So Moon go away?, crashing Earth? or have more or not influence anything in this case.
In my opinion is too much factors witch scientists ignore or new factors appears (earthquake, volcano, radiation,...) and nothing is sure. Go where for salvation? It is unpredictible, so make your life happy..one day, month, year, years.... not matters



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reply posted on 29-5-2009 @ 06:12 AM by contemplator


I am watching this 2012 stuff with much interest, not so much because I think something remarkable will happen.. more of a morbid curiosity to see what the diehards are going to do when not a damn thing happens. Also, what are the multiple gravy trains making 100,000's of dollars on 2012 prophecy going to go after next?



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reply posted on 29-5-2009 @ 06:51 AM by who-me?


Any one else notice the subliminal book sales crap?

Its one frame 8:56 and 8:57 and again after 9:18 in the video posted in the first post. Conveniently either side of when he talks about the book.

He's just lost alot of his credibility with me.

Thoughts?



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reply posted on 2-6-2009 @ 07:03 PM by BlueShaman


Originally posted by who-me?
Any one else notice the subliminal book sales crap?

It looks more like poor editing or some sort of glitch in the video, because as you can probably see, it happens alot throughout the presentation - the video freezes but the audio continues playing. And it appears to happen alot when an attempt is made to show full screen images like graphs etc and the cover of his book also of course.



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