Which Anglophone country is most likely to go fascist?

america, canada, australia, new zealand, britain, or other?

Well, on the path we are on now, America. Canada...well...they are too happy with their social healthcare, the people of England have the chodes to stop it and the Aussies never really spout about anything.
Just my thoughts.

Hmm I'd put my money on Australia , or which ever one the forces of the NWO deems most useful as a fascist tool. Which ever country goes fascist will inevitably be destroyed and end up in a worse situation than it was before it went down that road .
But than some might argue that some of the countries mentioned are already Velvet fascist governments ready to blossom into beautiful rompin-stompin Commu-Fascist Orwellian hells .



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Barack Obama's merger of the corporate world and government is the definition of fascism. We're already there!

Mussolini saw this 60 years ago when he defined fascism exactly that way.

Originally posted by Donnie Darko
america, canada, australia, new zealand, britain, or other?

What are you talking about? The US fits the complete description of a fascist state.

For a "Police State" version I vote UK.

They are the closest yet and diving deeper daily. Now to the point of the government telling people to search the trash of their neighbors.

They fear their neighbors more than any other people in the world. Truly frightening. They are so conditioned to be Politically Correct that they will even defend the insane things being implemented in the name of "Security". Prosecuted if you defend yourself against criminals, told to "not resist" and report crimes later, welcoming increased monitoring, security, no privacy, but still won't address "cultural integration" in the name of Political Correctness (you must be a racist if you address fanatic Islamic teachings / mosques in your own country but you will accept and welcome an unprecedented police state to "protect" you from it)

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We already are a socialist nation. And it will only become more fine-tuned by the way the government structures its agenda, and through the demands/reactions of civilians in RE to those agendas and their own fear.
It's a sad thing when an elementary school bans children from hugging eachother because they couldn't prevent the pre-pubescent boys from fighting. So no human contact, no emotion, robots?

Hmmm... I don't want to sound typical but it really does echo Orwell. So sad.

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None.

Most sociologists define fascism as the combination of Nationalism and Socialism.

None of the Anglophone countries are close to having any sort of near mainstream Nationalist Movement (although the BNP of Britain are pretty close )

Indeed a 'nation of immigrants' like the US isn't even a Nation in the sense that word is defined and so is incapable of having Nationalism.

No, we are approaching some sort of new Neo-Stalinist phenomena

Do you realise how ignorant it is of you to muddle fascism, socialism and communism?

America has long been turning into fascist state. It's what the GOP stand for:

-no public healthcare;

-no trade union or any associations of workers, no workers' rights - see their media lackeys unabashed lies and libel against the Employee Free Choice Act;

-no employee rights;

-fewer civil liberties;

-no social security; (not politically feasible to be outright about it)

-no social nets of any kind except for the corporate elite; (not politically feasible to be outright about it)

-no public infrastructure (except for what democrats progressive administrations manage to pas; they GOP are perfectly content to let existing bridges, roads, water & gas mains, etc. fall apart under commuters). No (subsidised? hell no!) municipal and suburban mass transit systems to alleviate traffic, urban air pollution and make commuting to work more affordable for the working poor or near that.

-imperialistic & bellicose(look it up) foreign policy, wars of aggression based on lies and false flags (look up the Gleiwitz incident and the Reichstag fire);

-slanted corporate media, misrepresentation of the facts and propaganda, dumbing down of the already dim population of ignoramuses that are the GOP constituents to the point they consistently vote against their own self-interest(prime example: Fox news);

-low tax rate for the rich and tax loop holes in tax code by design that only corporations can afford themselves;

-no minimum wage;

-corporate personhood;

-no FDA, they wish;

-no environmental, wildlife, flora legislated protection - posterity(look it up) be damned. Their corporate media will render Tradeable Pollution Rights and the Carbon Tax as a tax plan by the democrats to be levied on the carbon dioxide people, animals and plants exhale - they know the sheeple are dumb since they've made them so; In Europe, if you want to drive around in a V8 or V10 you pay higher insurance and higher emissions tax - perfectly fair.

-no common sense gun regulation (no gun registration, legal sale of firearms between private individuals with no backgrounds check or registration whatsoever, even the blind and criminally should be allowed to own and pack, no mandatory sale of trigger locks along with handguns so children don't blow their brains out with daddy's gat he stores in the closet, fully automatic assault weapons' manufacture and trade)

-intentionally running up huge deficits in order to "starve the beast" or blame it on the democrats in case they loose the next election - they know the plebs are dumb and ignorant and will go for it hook,

line and sinker;

-torture;

-gradual elimination of 'inconvenient' freedoms and constitutional rights (partly why rethuglicans hate the ACLU so much);

-the unitary executive and dilution of the separation of powers in state.

etc.

More but

The only things in their platform I concur with are:

-gay marriage is a disgusting abomination that has no place being institutionalised but I would settle for allowing the States to decide for themselves;

-abortion is infanticide and but this is just talk to the GOP because they know the high political cost with female constituents;

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I think this is a very interesting question.

I don't know enough of New Zealand to say for certain, but it seems that of them all Canada seems the furthest from the path of fascism.

UK and US are definitely in the running for first place, with Australia coming in a close second.

Perhaps New Zealand is safer from this horrible fate. But I really don't know.

Originally posted by Maxmars
I think this is a very interesting question.

I don't know enough of New Zealand to say for certain, but it seems that of them all Canada seems the furthest from the path of fascism.

UK and US are definitely in the running for first place, with Australia coming in a close second.

Perhaps New Zealand is safer from this horrible fate. But I really don't know.

Aotearoa/New Zealand is fine. We have a strong indigenous people's 'movement'.

My pick is the Ockers ....but that's only because of the fraternal rivalry we have with our poor cousins across the ditch.

Fascism is dead and buried. But if you mean tyranny, then by far the most likely candidate is Singapore. Once Lee Kwan Yu is dead, I think a descent into real tyranny is a very real possibility.

What, you didn't know Singapore was an Anglophone country?

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The big difference between Mussolini's fascism and us is that we still have an actively functioning electoral system... under fascism we wouldn't... it would have been eliminated or reduced to a single party system... so no the United States is not a fascist nation... though the potential is there and as long as we have such a dramatically polarized party system with each party positioning itself to become a permanent majority.

i'd have to say uk/us/australia all have the necessary structures for a totalitarian state, the trend is everywhere. the world is prepped for a takeover.