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Mars rover Spirit has unexplained computer reboots

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posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 08:01 PM
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So I just ran across this bit of news:



Apr 13th, 2009 | PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA's aging Mars rover Spirit has rebooted its computer at least twice for unknown reasons.

Rover project manager John Callas at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena said Monday that the rover is in a stable operations state called automode and can remain that way for some time while the problem is diagnosed.

The reboots occurred during the past weekend.

Callas says Spirit's batteries are charged, its solar arrays are producing energy and its temperatures are within allowable ranges.

The rover team is investigating whether the problem could be related to recent updates of the rover's onboard software.

Spirit and its twin, Opportunity, have been exploring the cold and dusty red planet since 2004 AP/Salon

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Mmmm, "unexplained" reboots ...

I assume they're not using Vista so what could it be?

Alright, who's going to be the first ATSer to come to the obvious conclusion?


Or maybe someone knows what's really going on ...




posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 08:06 PM
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Martian nanobots have infiltrated the rover's systems!‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 08:28 PM
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Maybe Martians are taking the rovers for joyrides and when they are finished they reboot the onboard computers to wipe away evidence???



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 08:41 PM
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See all the NASA funding cuts meant that they were unable to upgrade up to a better version of Windows from Vista, hence all the fudge ups...... lol



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 08:46 PM
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Here's today status report:


April 13, 2009

Mars Exploration Rover Mission Status Report

The team operating NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Spirit is examining data received from Spirit in recent days to diagnose why the rover apparently rebooted its computer at least twice over the April 11-12 weekend.

"While we don't have an explanation yet, we do know that Spirit's batteries are charged, the solar arrays are producing energy and temperatures are well within allowable ranges. We have time to respond carefully and investigate this thoroughly," said John Callas of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., project manager for Spirit and twin-rover Opportunity. "The rover is in a stable operations state called automode and taking care of itself. It could stay in this stable mode for some time if necessary while we diagnose the problem."

Spirit communicated with controllers Friday, Saturday and Sunday, but some of the communication sessions were irregular. One of the computer resets apparently coincided in timing with operation of the rover's high-gain dish antenna.

The rover team has the advantage of multiple communication options. Spirit can communicate directly with Earth via either the pointable high-gain antenna or, at a slower data rate, through a low-gain antenna that does not move. Additionally, communications can be relayed by Mars orbiters, using the UHF (ultra-high frequency) transceiver, a separate radio system on the rover.

"To avoid potential problems using the pointable antenna, we might consider for the time being just communicating by UHF relay or using the low-gain antenna," Callas said.

Spirit finished its three-month prime mission on Mars five years ago and has kept operating through multiple mission extensions.

The rover's onboard software has been updated several times to add new capabilities for the mission, most recently last month. The team is investigating whether the unexpected behavior in recent days could be related to the new software, but the same software is operating on Opportunity without incident.

"We are aware of the reality that we have an aging rover, and there may be age-related effects here," Callas said. jpl


Not much in the way of explanation really.

Someone messin' with our rover.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 09:05 PM
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Forward this to them for me will you


Msconfig then shut down background applications in start up, Reboot run a thorough scan disc then defrag, reboot then download and install the latest drivers. Run regedit and remove unneeded foot prints in the registry.
Dump the contents of the temp file.

Uninstall all unneeded third party software


There that should fix it.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 09:06 PM
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As a computer technician, I know that even the smallest of changes to a computer can sometimes cause it to go haywire.

For example, I recently installed a Windows update on my HP laptop, and it caused Windows to pop up an error telling me that PowerPoint has a problem, and asking me to report it to Microsoft. Once I uninstalled that particular update, my problem has stopped.

The point I'm getting to is this: unless the Spirit and Opportunity rovers have the EXACT same hardware and everything in them, then a command that does one thing for one piece of hardware in Opportunity, may do something completely different for a similar (but not exactly the same) piece of hardware in Spirit. If that command causes the hardware or software to do something unexpected, the computer may shut itself down and restart to attempt to get rid of the error, or to prevent damage resulting from the incorrect command.

Does that make sense, or have I lost everyone?



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 09:09 PM
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I assume they're not using Vista so what could it be?


I lol'd. In all seriousness though, computers aren't perfect, they can be corrupted or have an error in their code that can cause them to shut down. All it takes is one misplaced period to mess up a whole block of code.

*tin hat is on*

OR MAYBE ALIENS ARE GIVING IT A MEMORY WIPE WHEN THEY REBOOT IT!

*tin hat is off*



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 09:18 PM
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This reminds me of the movie..shor cuircut! When johhny 5, the robot, goes out on its own, is capapble of repairing itself, and becoming more intelligent, to survive!



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 09:30 PM
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I think the rover needs to stay off the porn sites while he is on the clock. Again, Americas tax dollars at work while the government workers slacks off. Dang rovers!

I think this is actually caused by the changed to the magnetic field of where they are at because of nibiru



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by schrodingers dog

One of the computer resets apparently coincided in timing with operation of the rover's high-gain dish antenna.




I wonder if this is the key?

Say for instance this antenna just happened by chance to sweep past some powerful energy from somewhere - I'm thinking a very distant gamma ray burst? Or well any number of other things - pulsar?

And some componant got slightly fried - or some code got screwed around.

Arn't these rovers at something like 400% of their designed lifespan? Bound to have a problem or 2 by now! - it's been a great mission for them, may they live long and trundle freely...



posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by DragonAce
As a computer technician, I know that even the smallest of changes to a computer can sometimes cause it to go haywire.

For example, I recently installed a Windows update on my HP laptop, and it caused Windows to pop up an error telling me that PowerPoint has a problem, and asking me to report it to Microsoft. Once I uninstalled that particular update, my problem has stopped.

The point I'm getting to is this: unless the Spirit and Opportunity rovers have the EXACT same hardware and everything in them, then a command that does one thing for one piece of hardware in Opportunity, may do something completely different for a similar (but not exactly the same) piece of hardware in Spirit. If that command causes the hardware or software to do something unexpected, the computer may shut itself down and restart to attempt to get rid of the error, or to prevent damage resulting from the incorrect command.

Does that make sense, or have I lost everyone?


Whoa! You lost me at the whole "error" and "hardware" thing! The rest of that is basically Latin. You shouldn't speak so much technojargon because it confuses us dumb-folk.



posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 12:57 AM
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It could be anything.
A fault in the new programming. A zapped spot in the memory.
False, out of range, data from a sensor.
Even a static discharge, from the dry, dusty and windy climate.

I check the Rover site every day. I hope this glitch gets worked out.
Even if it means shutting down a component.


A team from Best Buy's Geek squad is on the way.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 05:14 AM
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it might be that the mars rover spirit can now learn, because maybe its starting to think and maybe it found a way to get more data by rebooting,
or since there might be a solar storm coming soon it's tampering with the electronics of the mars rover spirit.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 05:42 AM
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Heres another conspiracy for you all!!!!
Maybe NASA wipes the memory for fear of any images or data getting out of stuff they don't want the public to get a wiff of?
They remotely cause malfunction/erase the memory whateveras it probably looking at some monument/ruin etc.



posted on Apr, 17 2009 @ 05:58 AM
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I find martians sabotaging the rover more likely than a software or hardware problem, you never know what is up there!



posted on Apr, 18 2009 @ 01:50 PM
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I hope they get this thing going, I would hate to lose a rover up there
This is very sad news indeed.



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