PC police move in to re-educate our impressionable children

PC police move in to re-educate our impressionable children

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VICTORIAN babies, toddlers and preschoolers are set to become political activists under new Federal Government guidelines.

Some, such as leading Melbourne educational consultant Kathy Walker, have questioned the merits of such issues being "rammed down the throats" of two, three and four-year-olds.

"Although I welcome the emphasis on play-based learning, there is an air of political correctness about the document overall," she said.

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[edit on 13/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

Gotta snatch 'em up while they're still young!

Yes, we Australians have been making some serious inroads into becoming a police state in recent years, we might even give the UK a run for their money.

First, censoring the Internet.

Now, educating our babies on politics.

Under the $700,000 new approach to early childhood education, the goal will be to "promote children's civic participation and nurture socially responsible citizens for a future world,

Basically the premise is to explain to toddlers (I'm not sure how exactly, maybe a baby translator), that they must become good little sheeple in the future and follow their "civic duties and social responsibility" to the detail not to mention being 100% politically sensitive and culturally acute.

Topics on the list to educate toddlers with (No, not play time and finger-painting):

- Aboriginal Australian rights and history
- Relationships with your family and friends
- The importance of a community and your place in it (i.e. bottom feeder)
- Respecting the sexual orientation of others
- Careers in education and why state teaching is a good profession
- Explore the meaning and purpose of "culturally valued symbols"

Easily understandable topics for any 2-5 year old!

Well there goes their innocence. At age 5 they're going to be dealing with gay rights and minority action, as well being indoctrinated to obey authority without question.

I don't know why they didn't include the "Horrors of War" or "Economic Catastrophe and how your Government caused it".

That's a little TOO much for the kids. But everything else is well within their grasp.

Instead of leaving kids free to their devices to learn about the world for themselves and develop their own conclusions about trust, relationships, integrity and state-service; they're having it shoved down their throats for them.

They'll be thanking us soon enough... don't you worry

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[edit on 13/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

Wow, I have to say that this is horrible! Not only did I not understand the government in a sheeple sort of view until I was in my late teens, but trying to do this to toddlers!?

I can only see this failing horribly and causing troubles for parents.

Thumbs Down!

This is based on the Brave New World-book model I see.

Seriously, the control freak who thought of that should be hanging by the neck from the highest tree in Australia.

Can we please put the Australia government on the list of the Axis Of Evil? Thanks.

This is RIDICULOUS. I was reading the newspaper when I was in 6th grade and it was way too soon to understand clearly anything... so 2-5 years old? ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

This is so wrong. I'm sure they would do a referendum on this and it would NEVER be accepted by the population... they are just pushing this down our throats... now it's in Australia, but just wait, it's gonna be here soon.

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Adults are meant to guide, not indoctrinate children. Left to their own devices kids from the age of toddlers to about six or seven years will "find their own level" so to speak and if they have questions, that is where adults come in.

Put a group of kids together of all "colors" so to speak, and they will play with one another with nothing more than the usual childish squabbles...left to their own devices they will get over what ever problem that confronts them and return to their giggles, playing, learning and exploring.

It is when an adult, that has their own agenda IMPRINTS it on said child that things begin to change.

I do not agree with what is being suggested, kids need their innocence and child hood, they do NOT need to be created in the image of those that have already messed things up.

~Holly

This sort of thing has been going on in US schools for many years now. I've been out of school for quite some time, and even back then there was a lot of liberal indoctrination attempts in classes. "Health class" seemed to be the only one specifically designed to propagandize and indoctrinate, but the practice was rampant all throughout my adventures through the public school system.


TheAssociate

You Australians have it rough. I mean, the US might have it's problems but you're MUCH farther along in the police state transition.

Teaching toddlers about "respecting the sexual orientation of others"?

...Do the toddlers CARE?

Teaching them about their relationships?

...Can't little Timmy figure out how to deal with other people HIMSELF?

Since when did school go from learning to a civil rights movement?

Australia is becoming fascist more quickly than America is, it seems.

That's their agenda, brainwash em before their little minds even fully developebecause they know their personalities are developed by the time they're six,so they have to move fast.

They don't want your children to learn what you want them to learn, but rather what the government wants them to learn and they will use whatever means they can, no matter how low and underhanded

These people are unbelievable, why would they even bring up the subject of sexual orientation with toddlers! They're just babies they don't even think about things like that, and they shouldn't have to.

As far as race relations go, they don't need to be instructed in that either small children don't pay attention to color they see another child and they just want to play.

Children should be allowed to be children, not be made to worry about political matters and being politically correct. It'll be shoved down their throats soon enough anyway, just let em be kids.

That's why i stayed home with my boys so they would learn the morals and beliefs that i wanted them to learn, not what some government teacher, or daycare worker was told to teach them. They started that crap in the US awhile ago.

Australians that are against this should start protesting it now before it's too late, let them know that you will decide what morals your children have, not them.

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Australians that are against this should start protesting it now before it's too late, let them know that you will decide what morals your children have, not them.

If the proposed ISP Internet Filtering legislation is anything to go by (which a whopping 5% of the nation supported), all of Australia is against it.

Australia doesn't even have significant cultural or racial divides within our society that warrants children being educated about it from such a young age. It's nothing like in the US with massive illegal immigration, and a large gang problem filtering to every US state.

Nor do we have such a significant crime problem that children need to be told about the importance of "community and social responsibility". Crime has been decreasing steadily.

I don't need even see what particular trend or new research brought this on, it just seems to be an attempt for partisan politics to infiltrate the education system.


[edit on 13/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

We can always hope that the sooner the kids are indoctrinated the sooner they will revolt against authority. They may just be burning the schools down before they make it out of sixth grade.

I know, scary scenario. Still, Government plans like this always have unintended consequences.

I worry that the Muslim children raised in Madrassa's will grow up to be hippies and peaceniks, while the children in the west will grow up to be serial bombers.

No one is more intolerant than those who have been brainwashed to be tolerant.

We live in interesting times.

1) Aboriginal Australian rights and history.

Oh god. This one is a killer. Little kids shouldn't be taught anything about natives! What is the government thinking! Natives are BARBARIC MONSTERS!

2) Relationships with your family and friends

Psshh!!! !! WHAT THE #@$$#@ IS THIS?? IF I WERE IN AUSTRALIA I WOULD TAKE MY KID OUT OF SCHOOL THJERE IS NO WAY THEY ARE LEARNING ABOUT THIS CRAP!

3) The importance of a community and your place in it

This is pure indoctrination. They'll OBVIOUSLY be teaching children that they are SLAVES TO THE FASCIST GOVERNMENT NEW WORLD ORDER!!!!!!!

4) Respecting the sexual orientation of others

OBVIOUSLY, GOD does not respect sexual orientation of gays AND NEITHER WILL MY CHILDREN! We are a land of God, not a land of heathens!

5) Careers in education and why state teaching is a good profession

I'll be DAMNED if my CHILDREN grow up to be TEACHERS!!!

6) Explore the meaning and purpose of "culturally valued symbols"

SATANIC WORSHIP OBVIOUSLY!

... ATS, WE HAVE TO TAKE A STAND HERE. THIS IS THE LAST STRAW!!!! SOMETHING MUST BE DONE BEFORE ALL IS LOST!

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Emotional outpourings aside....

You seriously think pre-school toddlers are capable of understanding any of the significance attached to those issues or why they are relevant to them?

Teaching kids a FEW MONTHS old (mentioned in the PDF) up until they're 5 about gay rights, indigenous history, and government influence within their life does nothing but confuse them and detract serious time away from an important period of their lives where they need to develop their AUTONOMY.

Not have all the harsh truths of the world and pre-conceived idealist values spoon-fed into their mouths.

Holy crap, our kids are sheltered and naive enough as it is, we don't need to ruin any attempt to give them a normal childhood by leaving it up to their government to teach them how they should feel, think and do in life.

This an attempt to implant an overly politically-correct and subservient perspective into our education system from a very early age.

It's a test case. The government wants to see how far they can push this crap.

If this actually gains traction across Australia, it opens the floodgates to widespread political partisan indoctrination and propaganda entering the education system.


[edit on 13/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

By trying to implement this Labor saying teachers allow all these terrible things to occur now. This is a massive show of disapproval of teachers by this Labor Government. I wonder what they think about Labor telling them they are doing such a bad job they now need a new policy?

Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
reply to post by logician magician

 

Emotional outpourings aside....

You seriously think pre-school toddlers are capable of understanding any of the significance attached to those issues or why they are relevant to them?

Most of them probably don't. They just listen to what their parents tell them and model their world-view after that.

Teaching kids a FEW MONTHS old (mentioned in the PDF) up until they're 5 about gay rights, indigenous history, and government influence within their life does nothing but confuse them and detract serious time away from an important period of their lives where they need to develop their AUTONOMY.

Sure, but an uncontrolled autonomy is just as bad as a strictly guided one. All the schools are doing is giving the students the opportunity to learn about perhaps controversial subjects in an environment that would hopefully be more even-sided than say, a gay hating, racist parent.

I wonder, do you think teaching small Children about "Indigenous history and government" is any worse then teaching them about Thanksgiving, or filling their head with crap about Santa Clause? You're obviously of the school of thought which thinks kids should be:

1) Sheltered and confined in ignorance until an arbitrary age.
2) Told lies to "protect" their "pristine" and "pure" view of the world.

Not have all the harsh truths of the world and pre-conceived idealist values spoon-fed into their mouths.

Which is exactly why they should be taught these things from not only parents, but from alternate sources - such as the state - in the first place so that they aren't reamed with a uniform world-view of an ideal right or wrong.

Holy crap, our kids are sheltered and naive enough as it is, we don't need to ruin any attempt to give them a normal childhood by leaving it up to their government to teach them how they should feel, think and do in life.

Beyond you blowing this all out of proportion, why shelter them against the ideas of gay rights, indigenous history, and other real-world practical matters?

This an attempt to implant an overly politically-correct and subservient perspective into our education system from a very early age.

It's an attempt to push the maturity level of humans to a new baseline. It's not necessarily about the ideas presented, but about the conceptualization of those ideas and how they are associated to foster a more dynamic way of thinking earlier on in life - when those specific faculties in humans are at their prime and most susceptible to divergence.

It's a test case. The government wants to see how far they can push this crap.

If this actually gains traction across Australia, it opens the floodgates to widespread political partisan indoctrination and propaganda entering the education system.

Sure it's a test case. It's a test case of nationalizing the teaching of more critical subject matter to young minds in an effort to see if they can effectively learn it.

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I dont think this about being PC, I think its no different to teaching children about traditions like thanksgiving or christmas. or in OZ the ANZAC tradition. Its providing a stable environment to help kids understand things like race and cultures and preferences etc.

Its not so much indoctrinating its really like teaching any history or religion in school., All school is a form of indoctrination lets face. it.

Kids have to learn somehow and I would rather my children learn about indigenous Australians and their rich 60 000 cultural history, rather than learn offensive "ABO" jokes in the playground. That is not how I want my kids to learn about them.

Pfff this is media exageration, its no PC policing. Its social awareness, and I prefer that for my kids than ignorant racist misguided learnings.


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I don't share your optimism guys, especially given the way the Rudd government has broken all its campaign promises and seems to be going on all-out socialistic venture never before seen in Australia politics.

They want the government holding your hand every step of the way.
I just don't trust it.

It's coming from the same people who seriously consider Internet filtering a good thing. Utter delusional nonsense.

Perhaps Logical Magician believes that the State should just raise all of our kids because we the parents could be potential abusive racists and terrorists. The Government ALWAYS knows what is better to teach the children then the parents, right??

The media are bored, they will now report on the Qantas job cuts just announced and ditch this story. Qantas will be the 1st lead story now. Please don't fall for media HYPE, originially generated from Fox/ACP=Murdoch and Packer...

You don't need to worry so much, I'm pretty sure its OK to teach social awareness (which is what you learn to an extent on ATS) rather than old fashioned rubbish like when I was at school. I was forced taught home economics, ie cooking and sewing, I find that far more offensive and stepford wife brainwashing than this.

As I said I am OK with my kids being taught to be considerate of indigenous people, multiculuralism, not homophobic etc. In fact I would pay my kids to go to the school that teaches this as its reinforcing the message I teach them at home, its consistancy. I want my kids to be considerate and understanding individuals who care about other peoples differences, if anything this makes them more open and accepting of peoples.

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[edit on 14-4-2009 by zazzafrazz]

Originally posted by SuperSecretSquirrel
Perhaps Logical Magician believes that the State should just raise all of our kids because we the parents could be potential abusive racists and terrorists. The Government ALWAYS knows what is better to teach the children then the parents, right??

Perhaps you should recognise that the state already DOES teach 75% of Australians. Private schools must adhere to state approved curricula and grading standards, so it's not really anything new now...Its all a lot of hot air, they already do control ALL education, this is really about whether you approve of social awarness education, not whether you think the state should control education...it already does in one way or another 100%





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