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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Woohoo, now richer Americans can go ahead and enjoy the poor prostitutes, both male and female, that Canadians, and other Europeans have been enjoying...
Originally posted by Albertarocks
Well if that isn't one of the most ignorant comments I've ever read here. Canadians and other Europeans?
I've got news for ya. Canada isn't in Europe.
Yes, Canadians and Europeans (99% of whom are friends of ours) have been enjoying Cuba all along. But generally speaking, mothers and fathers who take their children for a beautiful holiday in a stunningly beautiful island country aren't looking for prostitutes. I thought you were above a comment like that. I'm really wondering why the sour grapes?
Originally posted by Albertarocks
reply to post by ElectricUniverse
Fair enough. Perhaps I was a bit out of line.
Now I need to input 48 more characters. There!
Originally posted by Albertarocks
I understand! I apologize if you were offended... my own words were a bit harsh. Honestly, when I saw the words "Canadian" and "using prostitutes" in the same sentence I got a little feisty because I thought you were suggesting that's all Canadians and Europeans go to Cuba for.
I'll take a little more time to read in the future. You're right!
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
When people don't have enough money to eat, or feed their kids they will do almost anything
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
In the U.S. those women that are in prostution for the most part do it because they make more money, or they like it...
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Do not compare apples to oranges, and yes I was born in Cuba, grew up there until i was 8 ears old there, and visited my family back in 2001, and still have family there
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
As a tourist you only saw the tourist parts of the island, and not the real Cuba.
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
BTW, in Communism the government OWNS everything....so tell me how do the people gain from the government getting all the money from tourism...
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
I am the one that can say for certainty you have never seen the real Cuba
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
and by now it is clear from your responses and posts that you like to excuse Communist regimes
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
and never having experienced it as a regular person suppressed in a Communist regime.
Originally posted by maloy
Any proof that people are starving in Cuba? Where are you getting this nonesense. People are poor, just like in the Dominican Republic and Jamaica, but they are not starving.
Originally posted by maloy
Fun Fact - did you know that Cubans' life expectancy is among the highest in Western Hemisphere, and is higher than that in the US?
Originally posted by maloy
As for prostitution - it is no different in other third world countries popular with tourists: Dominican Republic, Mexico, Thailand, etc.
Originally posted by maloy
Well I'd say money comes first, second, and third. And the same goes for Cuba. Or do you think Castro is a master pimp driving around in his purple suit on a Cadillac Eldorado and beating prostitutes with a walking stick to get their money?
Originally posted by maloy
If you really are a Cuban American, wouldn't you want to be able to travel to see your relatives and help them financially? What has the travel ban done other than stop this?
Originally posted by maloy
I didn't fly half way around the globe to Cuba to sit on the beach and sip martinis all day surrounded by French Canadians and Germans - I can go to Turkey, Greece or Egypt for that.
Originally posted by maloy
I realize that the country would flourish considerably if the communist regime is removed. But embargoes will not work to achieve that - not the least bit.
Originally posted by maloy
As I said - it is not like the government is throwing all of the money away to buy weapons or build golden palaces for Castro. It trickles down to the people some way or other.
Originally posted by Maloy
I believe what I have seen comes pretty close to "real Cuba". You won't find me particularly appauled or surprised because I have lived in Soviet Russia and Ukraine, and I have visited a number of Third World countries.
Originally posted by Maloy
I understand where they come from and what their goals are, but I do not excuse them. I supported the toppling of the Communist regime in Russia and Ukraine. I am deeply troubled by the communist regime in North Korea and China. And I have never favored Castro's reforms.
Originally posted by Maloy
It will not solve any problems to simply call them evil and place an embargo on them. This "poke it with a stick" strategy won't make the communists go away or make people's lives any better.
Originally posted by Maloy
These regimes are held together by total dominance over the economics of the country. If you can introduce just a bit of capitalist innitiatives, the house of cards will start to collapse.
Originally posted by maloy
Again you don't know a thing about my experiences in the Soviet Union. Don't think that I am oblivious to the faults of communism-socialism. As for way to undermine communist regimes - you can only gain an understanding of their inherent weaknesses by looking at things from their point of view and understanding what keeps them in power.
Cool, does this mean we can now purchase Cuban cigars legally? They are incredibly good... um, I've heard anyway.