Dont get me wrong ...I am not saying the literal is not important ....
I am just saying that with God who is spirit ...would have no need of physical things like the ark which was built by man ...of course God had them build it with exact specifications because it was using the pattern of the heavenly ark ..


Hbr 8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, [that] thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

The earthly things (Objects etc) are all an example and a shadow of heavenly things .........so I just dont see why God would need or want the earthly created one which was made out of wood and gold etc which the Lord says will all pass away with the using (everything earthly etc) ....


I actually think that the Antichrist could use the ark for his purpose ...(if it is here on earth somewhere)
Maybe he will even use a replica similar to what was posted on these posts where it had some sort of (fake) powers or something .....to be able to fool the masses especially the Jews who would be more than thrilled to see the ark .


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I believe it to be a place where God could come down and dwell with his people. Call me religious but thats what i believe. Now days God no longer needs the ark because he dwells in man. he has written his laws on the tables of our hearts, he makes his abode in the spirit of man. The old testament was a foreshadow of things to come and how things are now but in man himself. Man has the power of God living on the inside of him, living in a New Covenant established on better promises. From beginning of time to end of time its a struggle with man vs. good/evil and the decisions he makes determines his path. Personally i believe that Israel has the ark of the covenant. Israel has longed to start holding sacrifices again, they even have all the temple implements and utensils created, even the cornerstone has been cut. Templeinstitute.org According to revelations in the bible Israel will construct a Temple. Before they can sacrifice they have to have the ark, which in my opinion they are just waiting for the right time. If they were to come out with the ark now, i believe it would be all out war. Israel will demand to sacrifice again and it would not sit right with islamic leaders having an actively sacrficing Jewish state in the midst of an Islamic region.

This is a good piece, but like all things written by man, and think about it, written by man, not truly by the hand of God or Gods whatever religion you believe in, is open to interpretation.

WOW i was just watching Raiders Of The Lost Ark again last night what a coincidence that someone started a thread about it to LOLS.

I have no idea what the Ark is for but the weirdest thing i heard what it was is a DNA accelerator/manipulator. How it was used i have no idea looks like we won't know until we find it and do a scientific test on it.

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My first thoughts on the Ark is that it is completely metaphorical. It is a symbol of greatness and power, like many stories in the various holy tomes.
My primary reason for this is because the Dead Sea Scrolls actually laid down that there were over 100 commandments handed down by God, not 10. As the Old Testament was written and re-written, it was decided that many of the commandments were only important to practices of the time, which were/are no longer used. Therefore, they were not important anymore and were struck from later versions.

If the AotC houses the commandments, as the Bible says, then its contents have also been re-written. That tells me that there is no ark, only the myth of the ark and its relevance is only as powerful as the awe and wonder of those who seek and believe in it.

This goes a bit off topic, but this is much like the Grail lore. In the mythos of King Arthur, the grail is found and restores both the king and the fertility of the land. Not necessarily a physical item, rather a journey by which one is cleansed of sin and evil and returns a vessel of goodness, truth and self-worth.

The Ark is, IMO, very much the same symbol.

Originally posted by cbashisha
well the ark contained the ten commandments written by God..

Weren't the ten commandments just conveniently 'borrowed' from the Egyptian book of the dead....which were in turn just 'borrowed' from Hammurabi's Code ?

If not then its one hell of a coincedence.

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I think from a strictly science orientated view it is possible that much of what was written about the Arc is at least based in truth, allowing a slight flight of fancy the arc could be used to explain quiet a lot.

First consider that it seems to make sense that Moses was well versed on Egyptian secret arts, the religion he helped shape (Judaism) just so happens to resemble in s lot of ways the Egyptian mystic and legal systems -The ten commandments of course written five a side on stone tablets and made in duplicate, just like the Egyptian legal system. The Holy of Holy's was the most sacred divining room for both Jews and Egyptians, plus many many other matching things. Egypt was a very advanced nation, they understood complex metallurgy, kiln firing systems, embalming methods, compound chemical substances such as ink, make-up, perfume, etc, etc. Really the poor old alchemists get a bad name these days everyone treats them like crazy fools who wasted all their time looking for the way of turning base metals into gold and eternal youth -in reality they were much more like todays chemists that we give them credit, they understood all sorts of acidic bases and chemical reactions and much of their research no doubt helped move technology forward no end.

So it stands to reason that Moses managed to control the unruly tribe using some of the secret knowledge he had been taught in Egypt, maybe he used some of the political thinking which had kept the god emperor's in power and got their pyramids build -an Egyptian secret tradition in the same vein as Machiavelli? It stands to reason that he also carried with him some of their secret divination practices, much has been written about the use of psychoactive substances in early religions and i know ATS don't like it so i won't rewrite the arguments here -suffice to say, Moses oft acted not unlike he was in an altered state, weather this be due to intoxication, meditation, mental illness or of course the divine spirit we will never know for sure (until we can go back in time and check)

So moses ordered this very special box, as a few other posters have pointed out, very like those in Egyptian art which predates moses by hundreds if not a thousand years - this box is made to a very complex design and covered in very specific mix of special oils, then it is treated in a very specific way. It would not be in the slightest bit illogical to say that this could well have been for a reason, maybe moses was recreating a device or item he had used in the Egyptian holy of holys.

The sands of Egypt blowing over such a box could well create quite a static charge, depending on the exact design of the insides of the box this could well then be used to cause some form of chemical reaction, the bible talks repeatedly of a cloud forming between the two angels which would make sense, the area between an anode and cathode often gathers a cloud of gas during many electrochemical reactions. Of course if the box was grounded (i.e. it touched the ground or something conductive touched it and the ground) then i would stop working for a bit until it built up a charge again, of course the discharge could well leap a sizable distance and kill someone instantly, or ignite the gas cloud and cause an explosion.

So it all seems to fit that some form of chemical process was going on inside the box, there are all sorts of things which could have been happening however it seems most likely that the reaction was on resulting in a salt being deposited - a while lumpy substance, probably very impure and a mixture of all sorts of compounds. If this was the substance which moses distributed to the jews as 'mana' then it also sorta explains how they managed to take (or think they took) forty years to do a journey routinely done at the time in less than a few weeks - it could indeed be a meth amphetamine, mdma (the core component of the drug 'e') amphetamine sulphate (the drug commonly known as 'speed') or any number or mixture of amphetamines and amphetemine like substances which today are used in pharmacological medicines (and poisons)

Moses went and did some divination in the hills and got old really quick? The priests who knew the secret of the Arc and kept it safe all aged fast and died early? Often suffering very complex health issues such as blindness, lameness, etc? haha reminds me of a certain anti-meth campaign running at the moment!

Oh and just to confuse you even more, did you know that if you go to north africa and sleep in the desert when you get up in the morning with the dew you'll notice a fluffy white fungus type stuff gathered in small clumps, can you guess what this is called? haha yep MANA - it's part of the desert ecosystem and entirely natural, also you can eat it but it won't give you much nutrition. When i first found out that mana actually exists my head was blown, however i don't think this is what impressed the jews so much that they were willing to follow moses for 40years as mana was as well known to all desert dwellers at the time as say oak trees were to my european ancestors.

anybody ever read the story about how the ark was stolen by the philistines (i think it was them?) and after having it for some time, they sent it back with little gold models they made. now the weird part was, the reason they sent it back was it had given them ...i'm not kidding....the text says hemorrhoids and they were such bad hemorrhoids, that some died from it? ?? what the heck? and they made gold models of their hemorrhoids and sent the models back with the ark.
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