I think it might have been set up by the tv station to make it look like a tragedy was about to be performed . The way they panned across the audience showing the rolled eyes and skeptical expressions before she started to sing . She must have had some kind of audition beforehand and those tv people knew she was going to blow them away . That crowd went from an almost jeering mob to standing to applause after the first line of the song.

I think sports have wiped out, music and theater in schools. It seems like sports are the main focus these days. It must be more beneficial for kids to be competitive and aggressive.

Peace
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Originally posted by trustnobody
I think sports have wiped out, music and theater in schools. It seems like sports are the main focus these days. It must be more beneficial for kids to be competitive and aggressive. Peace
Trustnobody

I think that this is due in part to two things.

One is money. Sports bring in a lot of money to the schools.

The second is community participation.

You can fill a stadium with cheering and jeering fans but how many people turn out to watch the children play a concert?

I am not sure who to blame for the music today or lack of it. Up until the early 90's musicians actually played instruments and wrote their own music. I am talking about all music, including pop/top 40's/soft rock etc.

Nowadays boy/girl bands are constructed by the record producers. It is all so manufactured and over produced. Even Disney is in on the packaging with the likes of highschool musical, jonas bros, hannah etc.

You also have rap/hip hop etc. which are more so called musicians who do not play anything but computer generated riffing or plain lifting and looping.

Another thing that gets on my nerves is the type of packaging. The Britney's, Christina's etc etc etc. These are "video" products. Popular Musicians are selected first on their looks. If you are ugly forget about a career in music unless you are a gangster or have a good potential for bad boyism.

This has been completely exposed by shows like american idol. They always select the kids who have potential to be packaged up like the rest of them.

It was great to see this woman on Britains got talent. Everyone looked at her and thought to themselves, oh great look at this one.....Then bam

The problem though, is that everyone seems so surprised that a not so good looking person can sing... Oh my god!!! how is that possible!

Real music may not die, but it will venture underground where it will stay and has stayed for a while until kids decide again that its cool because its underground.

Music will never die, if it did so will all art.

Music is struggling in my opinion because of the money involved, seems to me they are bleeding it dry. It's unbelievable what's in the charts today considering there are so many great musicians out there. But they can't even get signed due to the publics demand of musical drivel.

It's slowly getting better thankfully

I really don't think music will ever die, and just because new musicians are pouring crap into the charts these days doesn't mean you can't go back and listen to the music you love from a different time, even if you have to go back to Mozart or Bach.

Someone in this thread said that a sport event will fill a stadium but a concert wont, but I beg to differ I have played the clarinet with an orchestra and a small band for about seven years and have played in many small and large concerts and I can assure you the places are always over-booked and packed, and not just by parents or relatives.

It's also nothing to do with the area you live in, that only well-to-do areas have music schools etc. I could not begin to list the amount of social problems in my town with regards to all sorts of illegal substances, vandalism, but half of the people I know who get up to those sort of things play the guitar, bass, piano, saxophone, trumpet etc. Jamming sessions occur as commonly as other types of sessions...

I don't think music is dead or even dying I just think people are looking for it in the wrong places... maybe they're not the best places but still they got some damn fine music.

When you consider that kids still think 90s music is cool, I would say it already has!

I can honestly say, I would not be able to live without music.

To me, it's the most important thing in the world.

There's no better way to express one's self than through music.

On that note, I think I'll go play some guitar

The begining of planned social and cultural degeneration that started in the early 60s was lead almost primarily by the music industry, and fueled by drugs, sexual deviancy and occultic new age mysticism.

Granted many great pieces of musical artistry have come out of it over the years!

But the dress styles, values, habits, and general attitude of the various social cliques of highschool kids is almost directly dictated to them by the musical style they listen to.

The scary part is the main targets in this are the young and impressionable!

[edit on 16-4-2009 by mostlyspoons]

Originally posted by mostlyspoons
The begining of planned social and cultural degeneration that started in the early 60s was lead almost primarily by the music industry, and fueled by drugs, sexual deviancy and occultic new age mysticism.

Granted many great pieces of musical artistry have come out of it over the years!

But the dress styles, values, habits, and general attitude of the various social cliques of highschool kids is almost directly dictated to them by the musical style they listen to.

The scary part is the main targets in this are the young and impressionable!

[edit on 16-4-2009 by mostlyspoons]

It hasn't changed.

The children are still the target and the music industry is still using their affinity to music as a weapon to snare them and put them at odds with their parents.

This is older than the jitter bug, grinding, rock and roll and jive.

They know that teenagers reach an age of natural rebellion and they take advantage of this time to make some big bucks.

It is a very effective and lucrative strategy that will continue as long as they are making money.

I think music is already dead. A better question - WHEN did music die?

I would say around 2000.

The children are still the target and the music industry is still using their affinity to music as a weapon to snare them and put them at odds with their parents.

I used to play in a punk band, I wrote most of the songs. I have to admit most of my songs where about sex, drugs, Satan, and anarchy. I actually think that image has been lost, and replaced with a cleaner more sterile content. That is why the music bad and mindless. Not many musicians dare to push the limits of what is consider socially acceptable. I don't think music is dead though. There is still a lot of great music out there, just have to look for it.

Peace
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