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reply posted on 12-4-2009 @ 06:05 PM by Perseus Apex
reply to post by Common Good



Why would they harvest lobster from polluted seas?

Population control?

It's the NWO way.

Who's next?

This lil guy couldn't take it anymore:

ET wants to go back home?


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reply posted on 12-4-2009 @ 06:26 PM by Blaine91555
Originally posted by Perseus Apex
reply to
post by Common Good



Why would they harvest lobster from polluted seas?

Population control?

It's the NWO way.

Who's next?

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To assume that every story in the news is related to Population Control or the NWO is insane on its face. Or were you just Trolling?

I can not understand the last part of your post. Is it a foreign language?

The new rule makes perfect sense and out of the huge number of people who come here, I only see a handful of always angry people complaining or outright breaking the rule like you have. What are you 12?


reply posted on 12-4-2009 @ 08:57 PM by arcnaver
Originally posted by Alora
There was an independent news story about this (
www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com...) and it opened my eyes. The news program didn't mention the barrels, but to talk with these people and see where they live....I start to feel sorry for the pirates, rather than the ships and crew.

Starred and flagged, friend. Great post!


I think we should 'Bail Out' the pirates before they go bankrupt! Murder and Plunder on the seas just isnt paying off like it used too.


reply posted on 12-4-2009 @ 09:03 PM by Perseus Apex
reply to post by Blaine91555



Well Blaine, how is that the satellites of which can see everything going on before and after in the shipping lanes don't warn the ships? Why are the drums being dumped in the water outside Somalia? It seems the PTB have allowed the Pirates the freedom to Pirate at will for 'some' time now eh? Could the 'presence' of the Pirates in the waters be designed as a deterent for anyone thinking of sailing in those waters and discovering whats 'really' going on there? Makes sense to me. Not you? Who are those responsible for fishing in these polluted waters and who is eating the toxic? lobster. Has a funny ring to it though these are good questions are they not?

Your troll comment is laughable. Troll is usually referred to as one who works for the PTB not those who give independent analysis of the situation at hand. And who are you to pass judgement on my analysis? You are the one appearing like a troll here, not myself. The age insult was out of line just like your analysis here or rather lack of.

If anyone should be aware of the overreaching powers of the NWO establishment, you should with your ATS point count. It should make one wonder where your comments are coming from? Myself a troll? That is truely a first lol.

If something doesn't make sense, likely, it wasn't meant to Blaine. I try to put it all together and then attempt to make sense of it all. You seem to pick things apart. That doesn't make sense.



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reply posted on 12-4-2009 @ 09:12 PM by lee anoma
Originally posted by Johnmike
I'm going to reserve judgment for something more reliable than a "National Black Newspaper. Way too divisive. I wouldn't put it past something like that to partake in some yellow journalism to further an agenda.


Will the Chicago Tribune meet your standards?

Off the lawless coast of Somalia, questions of who is pirating who

Somalia's lawless coastline has been ravaged by unscrupulous outsiders with impunity since the Somali government collapsed in 1991, experts say.

In the early 1990s, for example, Somalia's unpatrolled waters became a cost-free dumping ground for industrial waste from Europe. Fishing boats from Italy were reported to have ferried barrels of toxic materials to Somalia's shores and then returned home laden with illicit catches of fish. Rusting containers of hazardous waste washed up on Somali beaches as recently as 2005, after a powerful tsunami roared through.

But fish poaching has proved far more devastating to Somalis, environmental officials say.
Chicago Tribune


The AFP?

UN envoy decries illegal fishing, waste dumping off Somalia

Jul 25, 2008

UNITED NATIONS (AFP) — The UN special envoy for Somalia on Friday sounded the alarm about rampant illegal fishing and the dumping of toxic waste off the coast of the lawless African nation.

"Because there is no (effective) government, there is so much irregular fishing from European and Asian countries," Ahmedou Ould Abdallah told reporters.

He said he had asked several international non-governmental organizations, including Global Witness, which works to break the links between natural resource exploitation, conflict, corruption, and human rights abuses worldwide, "to trace this illegal fishing, illegal dumping of waste." AFP New


The New Scientist?

Toxic waste adds to Somalia's woes

* 19 September 1992 by DEBORA MacKENZIE , BRUSSELS
* Magazine issue 1839

Talks aimed at stopping millions of tonnes of European toxic waste being dumped in strife-torn Somalia have started between officials of the UN Environment Programme and the Italian and Swiss governments. But it is not yet clear if the dumping deal is illegal because of political confusion surrounding the growing trade in European waste.

Mostafa Tolba, the head of UNEP, says that last December, unnamed Italian and Swiss firms which trade in waste signed a deal with Nur Elmy Osman, who called himself minister of health in the 'government' of Ali Mahdi Mohammed, leader of one of Somalia's warring factions. The New Scientist


What about the TIMES?


March 4, 2005
Somalia's secret dumps of toxic waste washed ashore by tsunami

Apart from killing about 300 people and destroying thousands of homes, the waves broke up rusting barrels and other containers and hazardous waste dumped along the long, remote shoreline, a spokesman for the United Nations Environment Programme (Unep) said.

“Initial reports indicate that the tsunami waves broke open containers full of toxic waste and scattered the contents. We are talking about everything from medical waste to chemical waste products,” Nick Nuttal, the Unep spokesman, told The Times. TImesonline


Something VERY VERY interesting from the above article:

In 1997 and 1998, the Italian newspaper Famiglia Cristiana, which jointly investigated the allegations with the Italian branch of Greenpeace, published a series of articles detailing the extent of illegal dumping by a Swiss firm, Achair Partners, and an Italian waste broker, Progresso.

The European Green Party followed up the revelations by presenting to the press and the European Parliament in Strasbourg copies of contracts signed by the two companies and representatives of the then “President” — Ali Mahdi Mohamed — to accept 10 million tonnes of toxic waste in exchange for $80 million (then about £60 million).

My bolds

I admit that most of the mainstream media has ignored this issue but there are other sources that some of you may consider credible that have reported on the story.

Hope that helps.

- Lee


reply posted on 12-4-2009 @ 09:17 PM by Perseus Apex
reply to post by 18731542



From what I understand, the Captain jumped ship and was rescued while three of the pirates were sniped. The 4th pirate was held for interrogation. Not sure what they plan to do with him when they're finished. Perhaps he should be fed to those lobsters lurking below.

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reply posted on 12-4-2009 @ 09:20 PM by free_spirit_earth
reply to post by lee anoma



Good find dude, looking past the pirate thing the important thing to learn from this is that the environment suffers the most which automatically has a syncronistic effect on humans and animal life.

This is terrible and uncalled for all in the name of profit, greed and aberrant behaviour of the very few.. sigh...





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