reply to post by Gawdzilla
i just think that any profession that is so obviously threatened by an IDEA ii.e. the fact that aliens might exist or might have been involved in the
human past, has a problem. it cant remain aloof and scientific and unbiased, because science by its nature has to be open to ALL possibilities -
particularly one as mundane and obvious as the existance of ET life - which our own science has pretty much decided must exist - is the current
MAINSTREAM thinking, i think you might find.
and why am i saying that the profession won't consider this idea? well i base that only on what i've OBSERVED after at a university i went to. the
very IDEA of aliens was ridiculed on OHT slides purporting to "debunk" these 'fringe theories'. (they had pictures of little aliens all around
the sides of the OHT - even on slides that weren't about EVD's alien theory, but just about controversial discoveries in australia of pyramids/or
shipwrecks from spanish sailors who allegedly discovered the coast before cook (and whats so crazy about that? they probly did. the dutch and pretty
much half of europe went round australia before cook did).)
you were made to feel like you were dumb or crazy if you believed in these 'fringe theories' , just like you would be dumb or crazy if you believed
in ETs. half the scientific community takes the likely existance of ET life int eh universe seriously. some mainstream scientists - physicists,
astrophysicists, biologists looking at the start of life on earth have expressed the serious opinion that the building blocks of life must have been
BROUGHT here by some intelligence - based on things that didnt add up to them scientifically. none of these guys were sacked or ridiculed. their
theories are known.
re: funding. well, if ets did have a part in our early civilization, they really should find some money to fund the research cuz everyone's going to
look pretty silly if it turns out thats what happened, and we didnt pick up on it after sifting thru every potsherd in egypt. (but missed the pyramid
point is: there couldnt be a more important (or urgent) question in archaeology to study - if theres any evidence at all of this.
re: debunking information. yes i have read some of it. i heard all the arguments against the gympie pyramid, the spanish shipwrecks, the fossilized
giant found in ireland, etc etc, EVD - palenque stone - we covered a lot in that tute. was i particularly impressed with any of it? not really. I
certainly dont accept what they were saying uncritically. and i would not rule out the possibility that lies are being told. i was unimpressed
totally with the supposed 'debunking' of the palenque stone. i found evd's explanation more plausible. (they apparantly werent even game to show
a photo of the real stone - just showed us a pretty bad drawing of it - i wondered - to make it look LESS like a spaceman?
re: the gympie pyramid, something smells fishy to me. why all the tenseness? if theres no pyramid there, why dont they all relax? they're very
tense about it. why all the rumours of a pyramid if no pyramid? why also wouldnt there be megalithic ruins or pyramids in australia? i expect that
there SHOULD be some, cuz they're EVERYWhERE else in teh world pretty much. (even borneo has dolmen lying around in teh jungle.) there's
megalithic platforms across the pacific and pyramid type structures on islands. i would be more surprised if there WASNT any megaliths or pyramids in
australia than if there was. i also think it very likely that civilizations such as egypt, phonecians, etc probably made it down this far on some of
their voyages. (let alone the spanish, who in my opnion would certainly have made it here - werent they in tahiti before cook too?).
yes, so i dont know about gympie either way; but i was NOT satisfied by the attempt to 'debunk' it - having read articiles and stories from both
points of view, i am still undecided. it may or may not be apyramid. maybe ill go and look one day. but the fact that the govt wants to put a road
right thru it makes me wonder a bit. it doesnt help me believe their case.
seems like everything they dont like or have an explanation for is a hoax. all i can say is there must be a frigging ARMY of people out there
frantically making hoax artifacts to keep us crazy fringers interested. like the poor farmer or whatever he was in sth america who 'hoaxed' the
inca stones - poor guy must have spent his entire life carving thousands of andesite stones (toughest rock around), put in some anatomical detail (on
one of the dinosaurs) that we didnt know was correct until recently, and managed to get a filmy layer on top of the stones which suggests a great age.
but wait, even if he had carved every day for his whole life, he probly still couldnt have carved them all. busy guy.
the photo of the fossilized giant they showed us from ireland, was not even the correct photo. they just showed us a carving that was made of it
later. what am i supposed to conclude about that? nothing as far as i can tell.
i have been to the abydos website for seti's temple and ive read the 'recarving' explanation for the helicopter etc. on the temple. all i can say
is, you non fringers are easily satisfied. someone says, oh' that was just re carved, obviously. and you guys go - yeah - obviously. we believe
you - anyhing you say. what do you think they'd tell you if it WAS real? probably that dont worry - someone recarved it - its not really a
each to their own of course.
to me - too much stuff adds up. i quite frankly do not believe there are that many hoaxers working around the clock to keep me interested. stones
like baalbeck and tiwanaku and ollantaytambo fortress and sacsayhuaman make me pretty sure of that. however u are entitled to ur opinion... however
there's no need to patronize me for mine. im not weak in the head. i have looked at a lot of stuff - and my current position is, i am not
satisifed with the explanations in archaeology, and i find evd plausible - perhaps he is right - i am tending more in that direction. as you may find
me ridiculous, it is just as likely that i may find your opinion ridiculous too. live and let live, i guess.