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Thailand announces state of emergency in capital

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posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 12:06 AM
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I believe it has nothing to do with pacifism...rather, apathy. No one cares enough. Everyone is too afraid to care about an uprising. Until they lose anything, and their family loses everything, only then with apathy be replaced with something else.




posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 12:49 AM
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I would have to say at this point it may be more appropriate to call the people "Revolutionaries" rather than "demonstrators" or protestors.

The revolutionaries have begin using public tranit buses to form blockades while covering roads in gasoline to form barriers between them and the military. Latests reports indicate that buses may have been set on fire.








Thai troops fire into air, force back protesters

BANGKOK, April 13 (Reuters) - Thai troops fired into the air in central Bangkok on Monday after anti-government protesters set alight a bus at a main junction, and the demonstrators pulled back, a Reuters reporter said.

He saw demonstrators set the bus afire. When troops tried to put it out with a water cannon, the protesters threw a volley of five or six firebombs at them, and the soldiers advanced in response to that.

www.alertnet.org...



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 04:23 AM
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Its a shame the West cant do what the Thai protesters did. We must stand up and fight together against the tyranny, stop the nwo and get our freedom back. The people must not be afraid of the government, the government should be afraid of the people. This is democracy!



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 05:43 AM
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Copied from Aljazeera.net:

T Kumar, the Asia and Pacific director at Amnesty International USA, told Al Jazeera that the military's action against Thaksin supporters on Monday contrasted sharply against its inaction against anti-Thaksin demonstrators who held protests last year against two successive governments filled with Thaksin allies.

"It was a very calculated move to support the current government, which the military did not do when the current prime minister was in the opposition," he said.

Those protests eventually led to court rulings that deposed the pro-Thaksin governments and ushered in Abhisit's government.

"The best way to control this situation is to have an election at this moment," he said, warning that if Thailand's Southeast Asian neighbours and the international community did not press the government to hold elections, the country would "go downhill."

Bangkok, Victory monument




Military storms Victory Monument



[edit on 13-4-2009 by muddyhoop]



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 05:48 AM
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I just wish to be there... I was there last time - but damned - I am in the other side of the world right now.

- My best wishes to beloved King, Hold On!

My old thread related...

I WAS THERE! ... 9 Days I Was Eyewitness In Thailand Airports! ... And Only Foreigner... (VID, PICS)
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 06:10 AM
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Just another thing to point out about Thailand, there are rumors that the demonstrators get paid 1000 Thai Baht/day (when minimum wage is ~144 Bt/day in Bangkok).

Got to wonder how many of the rent a mob crowd have a wardrobe full of different coloured shirts and don the one representing the highest bidder.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 06:40 AM
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Those rumors are well as true... In yellow side only quards and organization headmans are paid, but in red camp also all demonstrators get paid - both sides sponsors food and healthcare.

But when we put this to how that old nation is acting, working in generally, it fits the picture. Country takes care of its people in every situation very well.

We are talking about paradise here!



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 08:31 AM
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Just had it confirmed by a girl who lives in Nakhon Pathom, apparently the red shirt organizers were there recently canvassing for people to take part in the protests and they were offering 500 Baht to anyone coming to Bangkok, 1000 Baht if they were to stay overnight.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by muddyhoop
Just had it confirmed by a girl who lives in Nakhon Pathom, apparently the red shirt organizers were there recently canvassing for people to take part in the protests and they were offering 500 Baht to anyone coming to Bangkok, 1000 Baht if they were to stay overnight.



Exactly, they are paid thugs. This is organized by Thaksin. People these are not the "good guys". They are not anti-NWO etc. They are paid by the corrupt ex-President.

Please be careful with the "spin".

This is about Thailand politics!



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 10:57 AM
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There's an update from Bangkok:

UDD clash leaves two dead

A group of red-shirt protesters clashed with more than 100 residents at Mahanak Market on Monday night. Two residents were shot dead and at least 10 people were injured.

Reports said more than 100 locals at Bangkok's Mahanak Market were trying to drive out the anti-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) protesters from the area before the clash erupted.

Gunshots were heard periodically.

The locals asked for assistance from about 30 police and military officers stationed nearby the area, but they did not respond to the request.

The two men, who were allegedly gunned down by the red-shirts, are identified as Pom Polphanbua, aged 54, and Yuthakarn, 19.

One of the wounded were shot in the ankle.

www.bangkokpost.com...



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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WOW,

I have said this in another thread, but I am literally shocked.

Exactly a year ago next week, I spent over one month in Bangkok and the whole time I was there, I did not see any type upraising attitude from the people. Everyone was so mild mannered and friendly!! It is just shocking to me.

The one thing I know that happened, the day I was leaving at the end of May last year, was the PM had said something about the King and the people of Thailand were VERY upset over it.... they LOVE their King.

It is sad, because if I had to do what I did last year, right now, Bangkok would not be a consideration for me to go to.

I just can't imagine how crazy it is there now.

[edit on 13-4-2009 by questioningall]



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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The one thing I know that happened, the day I was leaving at the end of May last year, was the PM had said something about the King and the people of Thailand were VERY upset over it.... they LOVE their King.

I don't understand the whole ``we love our king`` thing in Thailand or in the UK... IMO, kings are a big sign of a NOT FREE society. Kings have been in all history corrupt scumbags, selfcentered pieces of garbage... in the UK is still true. I don't know anything about the Thailand king...

If it was up to me, any king would be put in jail or would be hanging from the highest tree.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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Whilst one person holding rule over another(s) is wrong in my opinion. Having a monarchy does allow for continuity and cohesion whilst the political wheels turn new governments in and out. The King of Swing Bhumibol Adulyadej only took the throne after his elder brother died and has held it ever since making him the longest serving monarch in Thailand's history. He has many projects that help rural people have a better quality of life and made Thailand into a democracy at the back end of the 90's.

Having lineage and the best education can mean that the country is better protected as it has more personal value to those who rule it. It can also help form the national identity and bind people together in complicated ways.

Like it or not Thai politics is something that frequently makes global news and with the Kings current health ebbing it might be a headliner for some time to come.

-m0r



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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Updates:

Fighting has continued. Running street battles have been going on now continuously for over 12 hours. Over 100 people have been injured and at least two people have been killed. Thai New Year's celebrations have been canceled and many businesses in the capital have closed. Former PM Thaskin has accused the government of covering up the actual death toll which he says is much higher.









Thai govt building, buses set on fire - witness

BANGKOK, April 13 (Reuters) - A building was on fire near the heart of anti-government protests in Bangkok and one Thai television station said it had been ignited by a petrol bomb. A Reuters photographer said two floors on one side of the three-storey Vocational Education Commission were on fire and the blaze appeared to be spreading.

www.alertnet.org...

Two killed in Thai protests, army opens fire

BANGKOK, April 13 (Reuters) - Troops fired at crowds of anti-government protesters who fought back with petrol bombs and rocks in Bangkok on Monday, in violence that killed two people, injured dozens and pushed Thailand deeper into political crisis.

www.alertnet.org...

Troops surround protests near Thai PM's office

BANGKOK, April 14 (Reuters) - Thai troops encircled thousands of protesters encamped near the prime minister's office in Bangkok early on Tuesday after a day of street clashes in which two people were killed and dozens injured.

www.alertnet.org...

Here is more information about the "Red Shirts".

National United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship

Its members are red-shirted during protests, and so they are informally referred to as the "red shirts" (Thai: เสื้อแดง) in both the Thai and international press. At present, the UDD's members are active as anti-government protesters. Notable UDD's supporters include academics and social activists, such as Ji Ungpakorn, Somsak Jiamtheerasakul, Charan Ditthapichai and Dr.Weng Tohjiirakarn. Demonstrators from the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship say Abhisit's four-month-old government took power illegitimately and want new elections. They also accuse the country's elite — the military, judiciary and other unelected officials — of undermining democracy by interfering in politics.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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It seems to be over now.

link: www.telegraph.co.uk...


After a day of rioting in which smoke rose from burning barricades around the city the "red shirt" movement ended with a whimper.

Protest leaders took to the stage around noon to ask their followers to leave. "We have to stop because we need to look after the lives of our supporters," said Jatuporn Prompan.

Five of the leaders then surrendered to the police to face charges of violating a state of emergency, which prohibits gatherings of more than five people. Other vowed to continue their opposition to the government but did not say by what means.

The peaceful end to the protests is a great relief for the government of the prime minister, Abhisit Vejjajiva, after the fiasco of the last few days.

In a day of violence on Monday only two people were reported killed, both victims of a clash between opposing groups of civilians.

Meanwhile over 120 people were wounded in Bangkok, most in clashes between protesters and the army.



posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 06:03 PM
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The current situation may have ended for now, but this is by no means over. The cycle will continue, and it will become more vicious in the future. I'm afraid there will be some serious turmoil when the king dies.


Originally posted by muddyhoop
I am living in Phuket an Island in South Thailand.

No problems here only in Bangkok. However this has nothing to do with NWO or financial crisis etc etc.

This is only about local politics. One side 'Yellows' have the Government they want in power. The other side "Reds" want their Government ... Exiled former PM Thaksin back in power.

It is a vicious circle.

Sadly Thailand has very poor education and these people know very little nor care about the outside world. They can't even see that this will have a terrible effect on future tourism.... they live for today only, forward thinking is not widely acknowledged as a Thai trait.


The above quote is by far the most succinct summation of the entire situation I have seen posted on this board yet. Well said.

Also, for anyone that is interested I took some pictures around Bangkok during this situation. Thread here.



posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 06:21 PM
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Yes this sounds very familiar to the G20 protests forming a NWO.

It's happened in France and elsewhere but not here yet. I'm surprised there isnt more of a revolt in the US.

States declaring Sovereignty.

Nations joining together with a common goal to have a World bank and a more deceptive agenda.

I'm jumping on this.

We have a new child or youth brigade. The Civilian National Security Force.

These may be some of the reasons we are declaring Sovereignty but

I think we are out trumped by Bush and Obama signing their names in blood to UNITE with the Global elites.

The US will eventually see martial law. The banks closing, panic and blood on the streets. They may even have shoot to kill orders, which seems likely.



posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 06:27 PM
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Those images are quite alarming. Can you picture that here in the US. It's criminal that innocent people are getting killed.

We still have the right to form protests but at what cost! It's outrageous!






posted on Apr, 14 2009 @ 11:15 PM
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The aftermath:

Protests over, Thailand aims to revive economy



BANGKOK, April 15 (Reuters) - The Thai government geared for steps to shore up the economy on Wednesday, a day after it brought a halt to violent protests that have further dented confidence in a country already on the brink of recession.

The streets of Bangkok were calm, with troop presence much reduced after die-hard demonstrators were dispersed overnight.

www.alertnet.org...










In a sad turn of events, the revolution died before it really even started.
Dreams of democracy ended with the people herded into concertina wire and having their faces and IDs photographed before they were allowed to go home.

People across the world need to stand up and take note of what happened. What happened here should be remembered and reflected upon by all people who stand for liberty and democratic rights.



posted on Apr, 15 2009 @ 04:24 AM
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Thaksin has been found out, and out-manoeuvred.




Thaksin was caught telling blatant lies on CNN and BBC, feeding false information to the global audience that his red-clad supporters were fighting for democracy - when in fact they were burning Bangkok to pave the way for his return.


The Nation- Bangkok Newspaper



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