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empaths and the subconscious mind

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posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 05:24 PM
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just a thought. has there ever been any evidence that proves that empaths are possibly linked to their subconscious mind? i mean, if someone is an empath, you would think that would entitle them to the knowledge of what they were feeling, who the feelings were coming from, and why they started feeling them. like i said, just a thought, but i would like any input that anybody has. especially from other empaths.




posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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Well, I am an empath. From my experience, being an empath means that we are more sensitive to our surroundings- such as our environment, the vibes in that environment, and reading and feeling who is feeling what. In addition to that, I am extremely sensitive to frequency vibration (if i walk through the woods- being around nature shoots my vibration up so high I feel dizzy) and when I travel my new surroundings cause my vibration to shoot so high that I feel sick and ungrounded for most of the trip. As far as it working with the subconsious mind- I am certain that it is all connected!

When someone is angry, happy, upset, bored around me I can generally not only tell from the energy they are sending off- andhow it makes my body feel- but also by their body language cues. If I feel someone really angry- i dont feel the anger myself- I can feel their anger.


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posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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I too am an empath and I'd agree...it's much more about the environment around than what is happening in me. I can litteraly FEEL other's emotions. I can feel the vibrations of nature. I can feel when there is a buildup of energy.

It may very well be linked to the subconscious, but I have always felt it was purely an "open receptiveness", for lack of a better term, that I have and that most others probably have, if they learn to tune in.

Edit to add: I do agree with the previous poster as well....when I "feel" these things around me, it's not as if they are penetrating my thoughts and affecting me...I can simply feel the different energy vibrations associated with different emotions...

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posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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Empathy is a survival instinct imo.

Even babies can recognize a hostile face. I think that body language and facial expression plays a big role.

Some people are also empathetic as a pure social choice, just as others may choose to be the opposite, apathetic.



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 06:09 PM
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wait. for you guys is it more of you feel it in you, or do you feel like your are buzzing too? and i have no clue if i'm a natural-born or if i became one to survive. long story on that, but i am an empath as well. just in case you guys didn't realize that, but i'm pretty sure that you did



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by bobbyboy
wait. for you guys is it more of you feel it in you, or do you feel like your are buzzing too? and i have no clue if i'm a natural-born or if i became one to survive. long story on that, but i am an empath as well. just in case you guys didn't realize that, but i'm pretty sure that you did


For me, it depends on the situation. I generally feel the most powerful emotions in my body-mainly my chest and extremities.

In different situations It can be just a faint buzz that I can more or less "hear"....which I used to think was a hearing problem until had my hearing checked, and then experienced changes in frequency depending on who I was around....let me tell you, the first time the frequency changed with my company it truly freaked me out....



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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An empath, if they exist by common definition. Would in my opinion, be able to completely identify and understand their ability. Be able to develop a system in which they can apply it to life.

Some may say this leads to mental illness. In kundalini and other meditative practices, these are to be ignored. Not focused on, for they will stray you from your path. They are like distractions.



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrtigo
An empath, if they exist by common definition. Would in my opinion, be able to completely identify and understand their ability. Be able to develop a system in which they can apply it to life.

Some may say this leads to mental illness. In kundalini and other meditative practices, these are to be ignored. Not focused on, for they will stray you from your path. They are like distractions.


I'm sorry, but this is a foolish statment. If you can't define, and organize your ability, it isn't there? Come on now. The knowledge to define something has nothing to do with it's existance. I GUARANTEE you there are many empaths out there that have no idea they are one.

So, since I cant truly "define" the vibrations, or the energies that I feel, I dont have the abiity, and it's all in my head?



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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I never heard of an "empath" before...

is empathy really such a rare commodity these days that the few left who have it feel they must give themselves a title?

The propensity for empathy is part of what makes us human, sets us apart from the animal world. It is different from sympathy, which is what many people actually are experiencing when they say theyre being empathetic.

The end of empathy is the same thing as the end of humanity

You empaths are a dying breed.



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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Of course it is linked to the subconscious mind.
The subconscious takes it all in. The conscious mind filters that info. You would suffer data overload if it didn't.

"The Sub-conscious Mind:
The subconscious mind is the part of your mind that really is in control. It is the storehouse for all your memories, it’s the part that controls all your emotions, it’s where your imagination lies and it’s also the part of your mind that takes care of your habits.

The main function of the unconscious part of the mind is one of protection. It’s designed to protect us. In fact, your sub-conscious mind is responsible for keeping you alive. The urge to survive is very strong. You breathe, your heart beats, your blood pumps, you avoid danger, you walk and talk and have the urge to interact with people, but you don’t really ever have to think about these things. Every cell in your body is managed by the sub-conscious which functions on the basis of information it has previously stored."

Subconscious



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by mostlyspoons
I never heard of an "empath" before...

is empathy really such a rare commodity these days that the few left who have it feel they must give themselves a title?

The propensity for empathy is part of what makes us human, sets us apart from the animal world. It is different from sympathy, which is what many people actually are experiencing when they say theyre being empathetic.

The end of empathy is the same thing as the end of humanity

You empaths are a dying breed.




Having the capacity for empathy, and being an empath, are not the same thing.
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posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic

Originally posted by Vyrtigo
An empath, if they exist by common definition. Would in my opinion, be able to completely identify and understand their ability. Be able to develop a system in which they can apply it to life.

Some may say this leads to mental illness. In kundalini and other meditative practices, these are to be ignored. Not focused on, for they will stray you from your path. They are like distractions.


I'm sorry, but this is a foolish statment. If you can't define, and organize your ability, it isn't there? Come on now. The knowledge to define something has nothing to do with it's existance. I GUARANTEE you there are many empaths out there that have no idea they are one.

So, since I cant truly "define" the vibrations, or the energies that I feel, I dont have the abiity, and it's all in my head?


You are welcome to believe what i have said is foolish, since this is mostly a matter of opinion. But in my opinion, if you want to be able to use and refine an ability, you have to be able to practice it. Therefore you would have to be able to define it.

Sure, you can say that you have a psychic ability such as empathy, (the ability to feel others emotions) But if you cannot use it or reproduce its effects in a systematic matter, even if you believe it exits, it still remains unusable.

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posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrtigo

Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic

Originally posted by Vyrtigo

You are welcome to believe what i have said is foolish, since this is mostly a matter of opinion. But in my opinion, if you want to be able to use and refine an ability, you have to be able to practice it. Therefore you would have to be able to define it.

Sure, you can say that you have a psychic ability such as empathy, (the ability to feel others emotions) But if you cannot use it or reproduce its effects in a systematic matter, even if you believe it exits, it still remains unusable.

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Thats just it though. Anyone who has empathinc abilities has no choice but to practice them. Maybe it's a moot point to try and explain it to someone who doesn't experience this ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.

Practiced or unpracticed, once someone realizes that they are able to feel the emotions of others, it is a HUGE advantage, for obvious reasons that don't need to be explained.

I use my empathic ability daily. It HELPS me, every day. You can believe what you want, but to say that something doesnt exist or is irrelevant because it cannot be defined is not only foolish, it is downright ignorant.



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 07:06 PM
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Thankyou for clarifying.

yes i realize that empathy and being an empath are not the same thing, I was merely commenting how only in a world where empathy was vanishing would an empath appear, out of necessity for balance

much like if the world were submerged underwater, some might develop gills


just like kevin kostner

and Im an empath too btw, though not so well developed with my gift (is it a gift really?) that I'd readily admit to being one... But reading this struck a chord

My constant awareness and acute sense of others often seems like more of a curse than a gift... Especially since I live with people who are... spiritually underdeveloped.

Sometimes I post intentionally theatrical messages... they don't always work so well in conveying my intended meaning. And for that I am sorry

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posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by mostlyspoons
reply to post by cautiouslypessimistic
 

Thankyou for clarifying.

yes i realize that empathy and being an empath are not the same thing, I was merely commenting how only in a world where empathy was vanishing would an empath appear, out of necessity for balance

much like if the world were submerged underwater, some might develop gills


just like kevin kostner

and Im an empath too btw, though not so well developed with my gift (is it a gift really?) that I'd readily admit to being one... But reading this struck a chord

My constant awareness and acute sense of others often seems like more of a curse than a gift... Especially since I live with people who are... spiritually underdeveloped.

Sometimes I post intentionally theatrical messages... they don't always work so well in conveying my intended meaning. And for that I am sorry

[edit on 11-4-2009 by mostlyspoons]


It can certainly be overwhelming, and sometimes downright terrifying. I have an extremely hard time in really hectic public places because it is such a bombardment of energy that I tend to get overwhelmed.....

It can be a gift though, as well. Once you start to get better at differentiating between good and negative energy and the such, it goes a long way toward helping to interract with people based on what they are giving off....



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic


I use my empathic ability daily. It HELPS me, every day. You can believe what you want, but to say that something doesnt exist or is irrelevant because it cannot be defined is not only foolish, it is downright ignorant.


Empathy is not even a psychic ability. Its just common sense. It is not telepathy, or mind reading. Its just being able to feel emotion. We experience empathy all the time, when you listen to one of your favorite songs, you are feeling empathy for the songwriter, when you watch your favorite movie you show empathy to the screenwriter.

Empathy stems from understanding. The opposite of empathy is apathy, which is to not feel at all. And then there is sympathy.

If you are empathetic towards others then more power to you. I don't really care.



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrtigo

Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic


I use my empathic ability daily. It HELPS me, every day. You can believe what you want, but to say that something doesnt exist or is irrelevant because it cannot be defined is not only foolish, it is downright ignorant.


Empathy is not even a psychic ability. Its just common sense. It is not telepathy, or mind reading. Its just being able to feel emotion. We experience empathy all the time, when you listen to one of your favorite songs, you are feeling empathy for the songwriter, when you watch your favorite movie you show empathy to the screenwriter.

Empathy stems from understanding. The opposite of empathy is apathy, which is to not feel at all. And then there is sympathy.

If you are empathetic towards others then more power to you. I don't really care.



Ahhh, so you dont know what an empath is. Gothcha.



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 07:32 PM
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Do you have a definition?



posted on Apr, 11 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrtigo
Do you have a definition?


I guess I have to wonder why you are replying in a thread about empaths when you dont know what the difference between a capacity for empathy and empathic ability is.

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posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by Vyrtigo
Do you have a definition?

Did you read one frickin line of in this thread or just start posting furiously?

Originally posted by Vyrtigo
Sure, you can say that you have a psychic ability such as empathy, (the ability to feel others emotions)
You said it right there...sort of...

Originally posted by Vyrtigo
Empathy is not even a psychic ability. Its just common sense. It is not telepathy, or mind reading. Its just being able to feel emotion. We experience empathy all the time, when you listen to one of your favorite songs, you are feeling empathy for the songwriter, when you watch your favorite movie you show empathy to the screenwriter.

And then you say something so stupid?

Originally posted by Vyrtigo
if you want to be able to use and refine an ability, you have to be able to practice it. Therefore you would have to be able to define it.

Very, very illogical...can you explain how your brain works and gives you self-awareness? Do you use and train it? Can you define reality? Do you live and experience it? Can you define the particles your computer is made of? Particle physics is still trying to explain that yet you use your computer...it's helpful and useful isn't it...you practice your computer skills don't you...even though you don't understand 99% of the processes that lead to it displaying a picture before you on the screen. You may say some people understand how that computer works...but they don't understand how particles work...yet we use them...they don't understand how the electrons in particles make quantum leaps...or how the silicon chips used in computers make quantum leaps between the the P-N juncture...which also happens in lasers...but they use the effect to their advantage and try to learn and understand it...they don't just throw it out the door assuming it's useless because they can't define or explain it...that's the pinnacle of stupidity. That's accepting ignorance my friend.

Now, on a more postive note, and a quick one. I think all humans have the ability to feel others emotions. It just takes practice. I know that when people around me are feeling really ticked off...I get a really bad vibe...and I can just feel the energy radiating from them...anger gives a bad vibe...and I will know when they have calmed down...without even looking at them..I just know...because I'm not feeling that negative vibration around my space. I don't get overwhelmed by energies or anything...the only time I really notice it is when people are angry...maybe a survivalist thing? Is that emotion really powerful?

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